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Post by ellie1981 on Jun 17, 2018 15:36:56 GMT
This is out now in the US and is not out in the UK until mid-July, but I have just seen it in a preview at the BFI with a post film Q&A with the producers and director Brad Bird.
I truly can’t wait to see this again. There’s no other word for it other than “Incredible”. Had a grin on my face the whole way through and there’s not a single weak moment. This has just overtaken Toy Story 3 to be my favourite Pixar film to date.
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Post by talkingheads on Jun 17, 2018 16:15:47 GMT
You see this, here, right now? This is me being very, very, very jealous! The Incredibles is one of my favourite films, and the fact we have to wait an extra month is, frankly, criminal. All allegedly because of the World Cup, in which I have zero interest!
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Post by learfan on Jun 17, 2018 16:50:18 GMT
Happens every World Cup summer. Ant-Man 2 isnt out in UK til 3 August. Frustrating but makes business sense.
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Post by ellie1981 on Jun 17, 2018 17:01:11 GMT
You see this, here, right now? This is me being very, very, very jealous! The Incredibles is one of my favourite films, and the fact we have to wait an extra month is, frankly, criminal. All allegedly because of the World Cup, in which I have zero interest! This is my main gripe with football. It’s OK that it’s just a sport in which I have no interest, but in this country it’s a national obsession. Apparently the football fans should be accommodated at all times while they’re indisposed with international tournaments. It’s like the clocks should stop and nothing else can happen during the month. Nevermind the rest of us as apparently we don’t matter as much.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2018 17:15:06 GMT
Film releases are usually staggered. I wasn't aware there was anything unusual about this one.
I'm really looking forward to this (not least of all because it's in the future so forward is the only direction I can look to it). The Incredibles is my favourite of all the Pixar films and I wish they'd done a sequel sooner instead of giving us sequels of films that didn't even need an original.
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Post by Jon on Jun 17, 2018 17:35:30 GMT
Film releases are usually staggered. I wasn't aware there was anything unusual about this one. I'm really looking forward to this (not least of all because it's in the future so forward is the only direction I can look to it). The Incredibles is my favourite of all the Pixar films and I wish they'd done a sequel sooner instead of giving us sequels of films that didn't even need an original. It's sensible business really, Disney often stagger releases to coincide with summer holidays to maximise revenue. Ant-Man and the Wasp is odd one that is releasing a month later than the US but Ant-Man wasn't a huge hit in the UK and was outgrossed by Mission Impossible Rogue Nation and Inside Out and given Disney has their hands full with Incredibles 2 during July not to mention the competition from Mamma Mia! 2, Skyscraper and Mission Impossible Fallout, they've wisely decided to release it in August where it'll make more money
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 17, 2018 17:59:59 GMT
Saw the trailer when I saw Jurassic World last week. It does look brilliant.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2018 18:19:31 GMT
Isn't it more to do with releasing it in time for the school summer holidays rather than avoiding the world cup?
and there's usually one or two later blockbusters opening in late July into August.
There is still mission impossible to come too
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Post by learfan on Jun 17, 2018 18:34:28 GMT
Usually yes but the World Cup puts a spanner in the works.
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Post by learfan on Jun 17, 2018 18:36:07 GMT
Film releases are usually staggered. I wasn't aware there was anything unusual about this one. I'm really looking forward to this (not least of all because it's in the future so forward is the only direction I can look to it). The Incredibles is my favourite of all the Pixar films and I wish they'd done a sequel sooner instead of giving us sequels of films that didn't even need an original. It's sensible business really, Disney often stagger releases to coincide with summer holidays to maximise revenue. Ant-Man and the Wasp is odd one that is releasing a month later than the US but Ant-Man wasn't a huge hit in the UK and was outgrossed by Mission Impossible Rogue Nation and Inside Out and given Disney has their hands full with Incredibles 2 during July not to mention the competition from Mamma Mia! 2, Skyscraper and Mission Impossible Fallout, they've wisely decided to release it in August where it'll make more money Its not just UK of course, this strategy will apply across Europe.
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Post by kathryn on Jun 18, 2018 13:44:59 GMT
Film releases are usually staggered. I wasn't aware there was anything unusual about this one. Actually these days most of the big comic book films and many other Disney films do day-and-date releases wordwide - and in the past we've had Marvel films a good week before the US. The latter (when they know the film is good) so that positive word of mouth can filter across the pond (since we're an English-speaking market and Marvel do disproportionately well here) to create a huge US domestic opening weekend, since that's the measure of success the studios care about most. It also creates a sense of an 'event' film that you must see as soon as humanly possible - and to avoid being spoiled by internet chatter before you manage to see it. Occasionally even when they know a big blockbuster film isn't good they go day-and-date wordwide - they embargo reviews right up until the last minute so that a chunk of people book tickets before the reviews are out. Then they can use the worldwide opening weekend box office number in the US to advertise the film and try and drive interest in the US domestic market with the 'we made it for the fans, not the critics!' line. Given that none of us expect England to last very long in the world cup and a whole lot of people are not that bothered by football, I doubt keeping the original release date would have made that much difference to box office take. Having said that, anyone with half a brain could figure out that Ant-Man is going to be relatively inessential in the grand scheme of the MCU (though I do know a few geeks who are very upset that they have to wait an extra month) so the fact we're unlikely to make it to August without running across spoilers online is unlikely to be a huge concern.
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Post by kathryn on Jun 18, 2018 13:46:32 GMT
Isn't it more to do with releasing it in time for the school summer holidays rather than avoiding the world cup? and there's usually one or two later blockbusters opening in late July into August. There is still mission impossible to come too No, it was moved from its original July release date recently. That's why Empire magazine have it on their cover this month and not next month.
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Post by lynette on Jun 18, 2018 14:00:31 GMT
The Incredibles definitely one of my favourite films. We often quote the 'super' conversation. So great to hear that the follow up is just as good. I’ll prob get the DVD when it appears. I can wait.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 18:19:10 GMT
Following links around the Internet I came across this:
Headline: Incredibles 2 director Brad Bird reveals if there could be an Incredibles 3
Sample paragraph from article: And talking to EW, director Brad Bird wasn't entirely against the idea of Incredibles 3, revealing: "I wouldn't ever rule it out."
It's good to get an unambiguous answer. I was worried that it might be vague.
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Post by ellie1981 on Jun 20, 2018 21:28:21 GMT
I just went to my first ever 'Secret' film screening for Cineworld Unlimited members, and the film was... Incredibles 2. I even watched Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom again as a time killer between work and the start of the secret film as it was the only one where the timings all matched up.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2018 15:16:11 GMT
I saw this this morning, and it's wonderful. It's great to see Elastigirl in "super" mode and I adored Violet's snarkiness, and I loved the look that passed between Helen and Lucius when Mr Incredible's work was described as messy and expensive. Possibly the best Pixar film ever. {Spoiler - click to view} I was slightly annoyed by the massive spoiler created by the name of one of the characters. It couldn't have been more obvious if they'd put a flashing red arrow over the villain's head, and I spent most of the film waiting for the heroes to catch up. The result was that the big reveal was more of an "at last" than a "what‽"
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Post by Jon on Jul 13, 2018 15:36:17 GMT
I saw it this afternoon and really enjoyed it. Even though superhero films are now the norm, it's wonderful to see one that has the right mix of action, comedy and drama and the sub plots of Bob trying to be a stay at home Dad. I would say it's more aimed at an older audience than kids but kids will still enjoy it. I do agree with Matthew that Evelyn being the Screen Slaver was obvious, I know Brad Bird likes a good pun, Evelyn Deavor is hammering the point.
I did enjoy the Easter Eggs of Jonny Quest and The Outer Limits, I don't think I've ever seen a Pixar film using a show that isn't made by the parent company.
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Post by crowblack on Jul 13, 2018 15:43:12 GMT
I really didn't like the politics of the first film, no, not at all.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jul 15, 2018 14:48:20 GMT
I really didn't like the politics of the first film, no, not at all. What did I miss?
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Post by dontdreamit on Jul 15, 2018 15:01:07 GMT
This film is on the list for when young dream and littlest dream are on school holidays. It seems to have got good reviews which is good as I am prone to falling asleep during kids films as a general rule! (Although in my defence I have insomnia so I am usually v tired!).
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Post by crowblack on Jul 15, 2018 15:06:35 GMT
It's pretty right-wing: a critique of the 1960s left-liberal 'all shall have prizes' culture. There's even a character who looks like Ayn Rand. Also, nasty characters are short (the boss) , ginger (the baddie) and to round it off there's even the implication that gothy girls just need to find the right, very mainstream jock boy to sort them out.
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Post by crowblack on Jul 15, 2018 15:10:50 GMT
Incredible propaganda Jon Dennis Guardian Tue 7 Dec 2004
Like most people (including the Guardian's Peter Bradshaw) I thoroughly enjoyed The Incredibles. With one big reservation. I may be reading too much into this movie, I thought, but I detect an unpalatable message: that powerful people must not be held back by the mediocre masses. It turns out I'm not alone in making this interpretation. In a piece for the Guardian on the rise of Pixar, Oliver Burkeman comments:
"The Incredibles is positively Nietzschean. Some people are just better than other people, it seems to say, and their resentful inferiors ought not to try to suppress them, but to let them shine." Of course, the very notion of a superhero comes from Nietzsche, as Peter Conrad notes in the Observer. Nietzsche conceived of a "Superman" who would establish a natural aristocracy of the strong to rule over the weak.
This extreme form of natural selection, say rightwingers, was constrained by 60s liberals and welfarists. Cosmo Landesman in the Sunday Times puts it succinctly:
"The Incredibles is the story of how the egalitarian drive in modern America killed off the superhero. It's a passionate and politically incorrect plea for truth, justice and the Nietzschean way."...
(I don't know how to do a link but there's more, with further links, in the Graun piece)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 15:33:47 GMT
This film is on the list for when young dream and littlest dream are on school holidays. It seems to have got good reviews which is good as I am prone to falling asleep during kids films as a general rule! (Although in my defence I have insomnia so I am usually v tired!). I hear you. I have been forced to watch some pretty dodgy films by the youngsters in my family. I still haven’t forgiven them for Cars, which made my brain implode. At least this sounds like a good film for adults too.
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Post by stuartmcd on Jul 15, 2018 16:22:53 GMT
Saw the film on Friday night and absolutely loved it. It was so funny and I had a smile on my face throughout the whole thing. It was just incredibly entertaining to watch.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 17:38:17 GMT
I am prone to falling asleep during kids films According to Brad Bird it isn't a children's film. It is child-accessible: almost all animated films need to be because there will inevitably be some parents who assume that "animated" means "for kids" and will take their children to see an animated feature without doing any further research. (I forget the details, but there was one TV station that put an animated show in its children's schedule using that logic, until people pointed out that it was very much an adults-only series and totally inappropriate even for teens.)
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