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Post by Jon on Jul 15, 2018 18:01:55 GMT
I am prone to falling asleep during kids films According to Brad Bird it isn't a children's film. It is child-accessible: almost all animated films need to be because there will inevitably be some parents who assume that "animated" means "for kids" and will take their children to see an animated feature without doing any further research. (I forget the details, but there was one TV station that put an animated show in its children's schedule using that logic, until people pointed out that it was very much an adults-only series and totally inappropriate even for teens.) It's interesting that something like The Flintstones is aired in repeats on Boomerang but it was conceived as an prime time animated comedy for adults. It's the same with The Simpsons, Family Guy which contain themes which aren't child friendly. |
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Post by crowblack on Jul 15, 2018 19:41:27 GMT
Btw, politically Ratatouille (which I love) is the opposite. Rat's 'special power' is just enthusiasm and luck, not some magical, supernatural gift. And the 'lost prince' character, the son of the chef, isn't the hidden hereditary blue-blood genius that such characters invariably turn out to be in 99% of fiction, including supposedly progressive stuff like His Dark Materials.
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Post by lynette on Jul 15, 2018 21:03:50 GMT
Interesting crowblack, I saw The Incredibles differently. For me, it shows that it is ok to be different. This shows itself in the reactions of the children. If this difference is a superiority in some skill, then that is ok too. And it certainly promoted family togetherness! Don’t you agree, 'darlink ' ?
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Post by ellie1981 on Jul 15, 2018 21:57:30 GMT
Interesting crowblack, I saw The Incredibles differently. For me, it shows that it is ok to be different. This shows itself in the reactions of the children. If this difference is a superiority in some skill, then that is ok too. And it certainly promoted family togetherness! Don’t you agree, 'darlink ' ? Yes, I always saw it echo the sentiments of Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut. |
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Post by crowblack on Jul 15, 2018 22:27:59 GMT
If this difference is a superiority in some skill, then that is ok too. Do you mean the original, or the new version? In the original, the baddie's aim was to make everyone superpowered to get revenge (and money) because as a kid he was snubbed for being 'ordinary' by his superhero heroes. |
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Post by lynette on Jul 16, 2018 13:34:37 GMT
I haven’t seen the new one yet. We obviously need a symposium on this. I’ll try to overcome my heat malaise to reply soon. Sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 13:47:18 GMT
I saw this this morning, and it's wonderful. It's great to see Elastigirl in "super" mode and I adored Violet's snarkiness, and I loved the look that passed between Helen and Lucius when Mr Incredible's work was described as messy and expensive. Possibly the best Pixar film ever. {Spoiler - click to view}
I was slightly annoyed by the massive spoiler created by the name of one of the characters. It couldn't have been more obvious if they'd put a flashing red arrow over the villain's head, and I spent most of the film waiting for the heroes to catch up. The result was that the big reveal was more of an "at last" than a "what‽" Having now seen the film, I'm absolutely gobsmacked that {Spoiler - click to view}
the spoiler was meant to be a surprise twist. I had that one pegged right from the first "here are the new characters" articles that were kicking around in the spring. |
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Post by kathryn on Jul 16, 2018 14:19:23 GMT
I saw this this morning, and it's wonderful. It's great to see Elastigirl in "super" mode and I adored Violet's snarkiness, and I loved the look that passed between Helen and Lucius when Mr Incredible's work was described as messy and expensive. Possibly the best Pixar film ever. {Spoiler - click to view}I was slightly annoyed by the massive spoiler created by the name of one of the characters. It couldn't have been more obvious if they'd put a flashing red arrow over the villain's head, and I spent most of the film waiting for the heroes to catch up. The result was that the big reveal was more of an "at last" than a "what‽" Having now seen the film, I'm absolutely gobsmacked that {Spoiler - click to view}the spoiler was meant to be a surprise twist. I had that one pegged right from the first "here are the new characters" articles that were kicking around in the spring. Yes, I agree, but on the other hand we are cynical old adults, well-steeped in the conventions of superhero storytelling, so we fully expect there to be such a twist. It's probably more of a surprise if you're six. Or at least, there'll be kids in the audience too young/caught up in the story to spot it, and kids who who did spot it who felt all grown-up and clever when the reveal happened because it's the first time they've worked out who the villain is in advance. And annoying older siblings who'll tell them it was obviousand scoff at silly kid's films. And who would deny parents everywhere the joy of that argument?? |
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Post by Michael on Jul 22, 2018 6:55:12 GMT
For reasons beyond my understanding, Incredibles 2 isn't released in Germany until end of September. But as I happen to be in Rotterdam this weekend, I did see an English version (with Dutch subtitles) here yesterday Evening. Firstly, how adorable is the short film Bao? It had me close to tears, well done Pixar. And for the film itself, I loved it and think Pixar excelled themselves. Incredibles 2 might easily become my new favourite Pixar film. Mr Incredible as stay-at-home dad, Elastigirl as working mom and the kids saving the day . |
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