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Post by firefingers on Sept 17, 2018 21:27:15 GMT
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Post by actorsinger on Sept 17, 2018 21:29:24 GMT
I believe they are regional rates. Not west end.
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Post by cheesy116 on Sept 17, 2018 23:06:19 GMT
It's crazy how little West End actors are paid compared to their Broadway counterparts
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 23:09:21 GMT
I'm assuming the more well known a performer becomes the higher they are paid? With Charlie headlining Sixpence, as well as going on Broadway and being an Olivier nominee, I'm sure he'll be just fine.
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Post by musicalmarge on Sept 17, 2018 23:10:16 GMT
5 to 10 grand a week?! Not a chance. Perhaps £1.5k if they believe him sort after, but I'd expect even less. Equity minimum for even the largest theatres isn't even up to £500 a week yet. Let's clear something up using actual facts........ Cat A (1100+seats) Minimum £694.67 Cat B (800-1099) £631.91 Cat C (Up to 799 seats) £568.60 They are all minimum weekly fees for west end theatres according to the current Equity agreement with SOLT. Anything over that is negotiated via agents and of course all depends on producers but even for the principals, it generally isn't as high as some people might think. A category A theatre West End for Chorus with covers (which most have) means a chorus member in a large scale show will be on 700-800 pounds a week. 694 is the very minimum in this case for someone on stage. Charlie (as the lead not a chorus member) coming straight from Broadway (where Bette was on close to 250k) and would have earnt excellent money, would not be taking a huge cut to star in a massive musical at the Prince Edward that seats over1700. He will and should be on 5k a week minimum. Mary 3-5k, Mr and Mrs Banks 1.5k etc. It’s not that much money! Mary Poppins at the P Edward should take over 5/600k a week (in reality much more). That gives a rough cast wage bill a week at only around 50k. Let’s say 1700 tickets sold x just 30 pounds is £50,000 a show and times that again by 8? 5-10k a week for a leading man from Broadway? Chorus 7/800 Yes.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Sept 18, 2018 9:00:36 GMT
I really can’t see this selling out the Prince Edward.. I wouldn’t be surprised if it only does a short run. Then hopefully we can get something exciting in there.
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Post by Stephen on Sept 18, 2018 12:28:04 GMT
There can be other great perks other that salary for a role though. Charlie was given an amazing apartment during his time in Hello Dolly!
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Post by show69 on Sept 23, 2018 23:16:00 GMT
Does this mean Aladdin is off on tour ?
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Post by cheesy116 on Sept 23, 2018 23:38:57 GMT
Does this mean Aladdin is off on tour ? I imagine it will be, I can see it selling well on tour, although I haven't heard any rumours or know of any theatres taking bookings. I'm sure someone more 'in the know' will be able to tell you though.
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Post by vabbian on Sept 25, 2018 12:13:08 GMT
Bring back Alistair Brammer Miss Saigon!!
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Post by squidward on Sept 25, 2018 12:35:36 GMT
I saw a Mary Poppins poster with Lin Manuel on it and freaked out! Then I realized that was the new movie, not the West End revival lol. I hate to say it, but from the look of the trailer ( in which LMM’s dialogue is kept to a minimum), it sounds like Disney may have created a new Dick Van Dyke situation in the dodgy Cockney accent department. From the little I heard, I would say that LMM may be about to steal Van Dyke’s long-held crown in that department 😬. Can’t wait to see the film now to see if the trailer was misleading or if Disney really have made that much maligned error once again. If so, much as LMM is the man of the moment and if they needed an American star in the line-up, surely there must be someone out there that can master a Cockney accent ? Or if not, why not make Bert hail from somewhere outside the sound of bow bells?
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Post by Oleanna on Sept 25, 2018 12:56:23 GMT
Would anybody else love to see Gavin Lee as Mr. Banks in this revival?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 13:01:25 GMT
I saw a Mary Poppins poster with Lin Manuel on it and freaked out! Then I realized that was the new movie, not the West End revival lol. I hate to say it, but from the look of the trailer ( in which LMM’s dialogue is kept to a minimum), it sounds like Disney may have created a new Dick Van Dyke situation in the dodgy Cockney accent department. From the little I heard, I would say that LMM may be about to steal Van Dyke’s long-held crown in that department 😬. Can’t wait to see the film now to see if the trailer was misleading or if Disney really have made that much maligned error once again. If so, much as LMM is the man of the moment and if they needed an American star in the line-up, surely there must be someone out there that can master a Cockney accent ? Or if not, why not make Bert hail from somewhere outside the sound of bow bells? As discussed in the Poppins Film thread (General Board) it's suspected Disney have deliberately cast that Lin as character part in homage to the VanDyke performance in the original. It obviously not a blind oversight and I'm fairly sure LMM has been quoted as saying he is very aware his accent is not good.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 13:26:59 GMT
Once again, I would point out that Lin's already been very open about how his accent work is going to blow everyone's mind and not with its sheer Londony authenticity either. It's not going to break anyone's hearts or be a brand new take if you go to see the film and come out going "well that was the worst Cockney accent since Dick Van Dyke", so no need to feel like you're bearing any bad news! Take it as a low-key tribute to the original (I think Jack is meant to have some history with Bert which could explain it, such as it could need explaining) and relax. (Oh whoops, hadn't seen that the thread had gone to page 29, didn't mean to be unnecessarily repetitious there!)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 14:33:17 GMT
...I think Jack is meant to have some history with Bert which could explain it... Certainly looks like they interact here (remake) in a dance sequence of sorts, which to me look like it has reminiscent qualities.
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Post by Dannyboi on Dec 28, 2018 8:32:37 GMT
Went to see Mary Poppins Returns for the third time yesterday at my odeon and during the ads they were heavily plugging the shows return to the west end, with three separate trailers during the 15minutes of adverts. Anyway these ads said that booking was open from 28th January, and as far as I know this is brand new information! I subscribed to the mailing list and haven’t heard a thing.
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Post by fiyero on Dec 28, 2018 12:05:20 GMT
Went to see Mary Poppins Returns for the third time yesterday at my odeon and during the ads they were heavily plugging the shows return to the west end, with three separate trailers during the 15minutes of adverts. Anyway these ads said that booking was open from 28th January, and as far as I know this is brand new information! I subscribed to the mailing list and haven’t heard a thing. I saw the film on Christmas Eve and was surprised there weren't any adverts for the stage show, or even other shows (often seem to get one for Wicked with musicals!)
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Post by oxfordsimon on Dec 28, 2018 14:09:50 GMT
I wonder whether work has already started on the stage version of MP Returns. Wouldn't surprise me!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 0:05:22 GMT
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Post by showtoones on Jan 18, 2019 0:07:26 GMT
Do we know how long the first booking period is?
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Post by appoul on Jan 18, 2019 11:10:22 GMT
Initially booking until March 2020. Doesn't the preview period seem to be too long for a show that has been tested so many times?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 11:54:08 GMT
Initially booking until March 2020. Doesn't the preview period seem to be too long for a show that has been tested so many times? Maybe theres contingency in there incase Cameron starts messing with his theatre in between Aladdin closing and Poppins opening.
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Post by wickedgrin on Jan 18, 2019 11:55:49 GMT
Maybe theres contingency in there incase Cameron starts messing with his theatre in between Aladdin closing and Poppins opening. More like messing with the production!
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Post by buckybear on Jan 20, 2019 1:24:55 GMT
I saw the original cast and was quite underwhelmed. I love the songs and the film and had high expectations, but the whole thing lacked life as a production and the added Styles and Drew songs were mediocre. However, with The Stemp is in this forthcoming incarnation I'm at the front of the queue... I agree, saw it when it opened and was also underwhelmed. However, saw it again a month or so before it closed and it was like an entirely different show. They’d tightened it up, it had more energy - a total surprise.
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Post by scarpia on Jan 20, 2019 13:09:37 GMT
I adored the original London production at the Prince Edward. I went in very sceptical as I didn't particularly enjoy The Lion King, but I loved the fact that they didn't attempt to ape the film (which Mary Poppins Returns seems to do, and not very successfully IMHO). The Stiles and Drewe songs blended well with the originals and, unlike the songs for Mary Poppins Returns, were memorable. I was saddened that they started changing things to appease Disney/the Americans, particularly after how much emphasis they placed on complying with P L Travers's wishes.
I'd like to see this again, but I'm not sure how much I'll like it if Temper Temper has gone and the tone is much lighter and carefree. Also, can anyone confirm whether we know for certain that it's the touring production we're getting rather than the original with that fantastic house? It'll be a huge pity if Cameron again replaces a West End original with a smaller touring scale production just to save costs.
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