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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 14:51:02 GMT
Yeah, if they already know the swear words and especially if they've expressed interest, then it's definitely fine for an 11 year old. I maybe wouldn't take someone else's 11 year old without informed parental blessing, but if I had an 11 year old of my own who was keen, I'd definitely take them.
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Post by dontdreamit on Feb 19, 2019 15:00:18 GMT
Thanks for all the feedback, really appreciated. One of the reasons I love this board is that I know everyone goes out of their way to give advice when I ask for it 🙂 I’ll give it a little more thought, and any further feedback would be appreciated. I’ve not seen it yet myself, which is why I’m finding it quite hard to judge.
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Post by beatrice on Feb 19, 2019 15:10:46 GMT
I think if a kid can handle the themes of abuse in Waitress, they can deal with Jamie!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 15:20:32 GMT
Young Dream is almost 11 and quite mature- they’ve put this on their list of musicals they’d like to see so I’m just trying to gauge if it’s be appropriate or not. I don't think an 11 year old would relate to this at all. I don't think they'd be too offended (the swearing etc is relatively mild), it just wouldn't mean anything to them. I don't know, the David Walliams book 'The Boy in the Dress' is aimed for 8+ and that's done pretty well. And I think any show that has such a positive portrayal of a teenage gayer (and in the current incarnation, a non-white teenage gayer too) front and centre in a big musical in London's glitzy West End should be applauded forever and put on the national curriculum. 'Jamie' is more appropriate for them than 'Hamlet' ever would be. |
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Post by shady23 on Feb 20, 2019 2:57:03 GMT
Layton has posted a thread about stage door
Imagine having to put up with all that when you've just done a two show day, are knackered and want to get home!
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Post by MrsCondomine on Feb 20, 2019 8:58:46 GMT
Bless his heart, he's so polite about it! Just watch as some idiot tries him again and ruins this for everyone.
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Post by wickedgrin on Feb 20, 2019 10:03:26 GMT
The stage door these days sounds a nightmare for performers. Good for him for being honest and up front about it and trying to deal with it in a mature way. No doubt he will come in for more flack though.
Regarding the suitability of the show for teenagers, when I saw the show I was sat behind a woman with two young teenage boys (I presumed her sons). Clearly she had bought tickets for the show in order to "educate" them a little! Her efforts were clearly wasted, however, as they were clearly disengaged, sniggered, fidgeted and bored throughout. A very sharp reality check that there is still a long way to go with "acceptance".
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 10:19:55 GMT
Great to see performers speak out about toxic audience behaviour and the sense of entitlement invading auditoriums.
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Post by No. on Feb 20, 2019 10:58:22 GMT
Great to see performers speak out about toxic audience behaviour and the sense of entitlement invading auditoriums. This isn’t about auditoriums?? Stage door is quite clearly the issue. I don’t think anything Layton’s described in particular necessarily transfers to auditoriums |
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Post by MrsCondomine on Feb 20, 2019 11:00:25 GMT
Great to see performers speak out about toxic audience behaviour and the sense of entitlement invading auditoriums. This isn’t about auditoriums?? Stage door is quite clearly the issue. I don’t think anything Layton’s described in particular necessarily transfers to auditoriums And I think a lot of stage doorers for this show don't actually attend the individual performances they stage-door at, i.e. they start waiting outside whilst the performance is still on. So they haven't been behaving badly in the auditorium. |
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Post by Dr Tom on Feb 20, 2019 11:00:34 GMT
I'm sure those signed five DVD covers, magazine cover and topless photo are already up on eBay.
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Post by distantcousin on Feb 20, 2019 11:32:47 GMT
Ugh. The public are utterly ghastly these days aren't they.
What has made people so demanding of "celebs"?!
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Post by shady23 on Feb 20, 2019 17:07:19 GMT
Is it just me left wondering what on earth a "funny boomerang" is?! ☺
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Post by Jon on Feb 20, 2019 17:08:24 GMT
Is it just me left wondering what on earth a "funny boomerang" is?! ☺ It's an Instagram feature. |
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Post by shady23 on Feb 20, 2019 17:39:46 GMT
Should have known, thanks.
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Post by alece10 on Feb 20, 2019 17:58:14 GMT
All his points are valid but please spell programme correctly. You are not in the USA.
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Post by secretcritic on Feb 20, 2019 18:24:09 GMT
Thanks for all the feedback, really appreciated. One of the reasons I love this board is that I know everyone goes out of their way to give advice when I ask for it 🙂 I’ll give it a little more thought, and any further feedback would be appreciated. I’ve not seen it yet myself, which is why I’m finding it quite hard to judge. There are some quite explicit and almost offensive moments of dialogue. In my opinion, the curt moments of dialogue aren’t written well enough for it to be excused or considered acceptable. If your child isn’t one that repeats stuff that they hear, then I reckon they will be fine. The story is very over exaggerated but there are some catchy tunes. But please don’t pay more than £30 each, it’s not worth anymore than that. Enjoy. |
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Post by showtoones on Feb 20, 2019 18:34:35 GMT
Thanks for all the feedback, really appreciated. One of the reasons I love this board is that I know everyone goes out of their way to give advice when I ask for it 🙂 I’ll give it a little more thought, and any further feedback would be appreciated. I’ve not seen it yet myself, which is why I’m finding it quite hard to judge. There are some quite explicit and almost offensive moments of dialogue. In my opinion, the curt moments of dialogue aren’t written well enough for it to be excused or considered acceptable. If your child isn’t one that repeats stuff that they hear, then I reckon they will be fine. The story is very over exaggerated but there are some catchy tunes. But please don’t pay more than £30 each, it’s not worth anymore than that. Enjoy. This is an amazing show and there really aren't anything offensive, so not exactly sure what you are going on about. Minga isn't offensive as it's said by the bully so the audience knows its wrong. This show packs a wallop and the show isn't over exaggerated - its told from the point of view of Jamie, and thus a younger perspective. A show is worth what you are wiling to pay for it. I paid full price as I wanted a fabulous seat and to me, it was worth every penny. |
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Post by No. on Feb 20, 2019 19:32:31 GMT
I’m actually quite curious as to what people find offensive here, it’s interesting to see the context vs appropriateness argument. As well as that, if we’re talking about the r slur, I’ve heard that Layton cut it out
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Post by anthem on Feb 20, 2019 21:35:26 GMT
I remember not liking one or two of the jokes but overall, I still loved the show. If I remember correctly, Jamie tells one of the characters (the bully?) to kill himself at one point? Other than that, I didn’t find it offensive and was more then happy to have paid for a full price ticket.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 23:06:23 GMT
I wasn't particularly offended by anything in the show, but I could see how some would with certian jokes. I think certian aspects of it are mishandled, but for a general perspective, I don't think it's going to upset too many people.
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Post by MrsCondomine on Feb 21, 2019 9:58:43 GMT
The story is very over exaggerated but there are some catchy tunes. Are people just repeatedly missing that this story is based on the experience of a real, flamboyant young aspiring drag queen? |
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Post by secretcritic on Feb 21, 2019 10:53:49 GMT
Are people just repeatedly missing that this story is based on the experience of a real, flamboyant young aspiring drag queen? But that’s just it. It doesn’t feel real or authentic! It’s quite clear that the writer has no clue how teenagers talk to each other. The ensemble are lazy, minus one or two. The book is the weak link in this production, I still cannot wrap my head around how it’s run for so long. I would say that it was written like a pantomime but that would be an insult to pantomimes everywhere. But, if you’re looking for a light and fluffy show; sure. It attracts a very specific audience; middle aged wine guzzling women, who think it’s ok to scream and holler during a show. If all of this appeals to you; you’ll love it... maybe stop by the Haymarket, I think they have a show on for people of a similar calibre. |
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Post by MrsCondomine on Feb 21, 2019 10:56:21 GMT
Are people just repeatedly missing that this story is based on the experience of a real, flamboyant young aspiring drag queen? But that’s just it. It doesn’t feel real or authentic! It’s quite clear that the writer has no clue how teenagers talk to each other. The ensemble are lazy, minus one or two. The book is the weak link in this production, I still cannot wrap my head around how it’s run for so long. I would say that it was written like a pantomime but that would be an insult to pantomimes everywhere. But, if you’re looking for a light and fluffy show; sure. It attracts a very specific audience; middle aged wine guzzling women, who think it’s ok to scream and holler during a show. If all of this appeals to you; you’ll love it... maybe stop by the Haymarket, I think they have a show on for people of a similar calibre. Funny how I'm neither middle-aged nor a wine-guzzler (charming, by the way, I expect you have many friends and healthy relationships), and I enjoyed it, plus there were no screaming people the time I saw it. Are you mylifeindrama, coming back to slather your unimportant snobbery over perfectly good shows? |
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Post by MrsCondomine on Feb 21, 2019 10:57:07 GMT
Guys why does this forum allow such obvious trolling??
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