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Post by eatbigsea on Oct 20, 2018 1:32:46 GMT
I'm glad you asked!! Is that why Nessie is there? to whip her feather duster round a bit between acts... I wasn’t intending to cause a stir. Merely to point out that the majority of the nursing of those dying of AIDS was done by women, as was most nursing in the 1980s. If the house had been as it was presented, he couldn’t have done all of the caring himself for all of the people who came to it, and it would have been likely that at least a portion of the rest was taken care of by women. ETA: I haven’t seen part 2 yet, so perhaps I shouldn’t comment, but from what I understand, VR’s character was initially unsupportive of her son. If there is erasure in these plays, it is of the many women who were unconditionally supportive of the men in their lives who were affected, and for whom they cared. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2018 9:37:59 GMT
I'm glad you asked!! Is that why Nessie is there? to whip her feather duster round a bit between acts... I wasn’t intending to cause a stir. Merely to point out that the majority of the nursing of those dying of AIDS was done by women, as was most nursing in the 1980s. If the house had been as it was presented, he couldn’t have done all of the caring himself for all of the people who came to it, and it would have been likely that at least a portion of the rest was taken care of by women. ETA: I haven’t seen part 2 yet, so perhaps I shouldn’t comment, but from what I understand, VR’s character was initially unsupportive of her son. If there is erasure in these plays, it is of the many women who were unconditionally supportive of the men in their lives who were affected, and for whom they cared. In life (and theatreboard) assume much of what @ryan and I say is done with sarcasm and tongue firmly in cheek (unless we're lusting after someone then tongue...never mind) We were both being fairly humorous while wondering if the women were there to keep house. You actually bring up a valid point and criticism of many works on the AIDS crisis that women are indeed written out of them. Some of which Lopez acknowledges to be fair, some he doesn't. Anyway don't mind us two, we like a bit of drama. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2018 10:16:21 GMT
I don't doubt that Walter's house could have existed with all-male residents, but historically, houses like Walter's did have women. For me, it would be less "that house couldn't have existed without women" and more "presenting a house like that without women is erasure of the women who really were there at the time". Possibly not the same thing that was meant though... Also this (and while i'm avoiding my other work) that is one of the issues I have with The Inheritance. I don't actually mind an all male play when it's for a purpose. And actually making the contemporary scenes a 'gay man bubble' works in its own way, and is a choice I can respect. However it's throwing a token woman in that a) troubles that and in this case b) troubles his narrative. Because in the historical angle, Lopez, if not erasing the stories because we do hear them, makes them tokenistic. Which is not to say Nessie's role isn't incredibly powerful, because it is, and credit to the great dame for all she does in it. But I really really (after nearly 10 years working in this field) am sick of the women being a footnote to those stories. Which in the way physically within the play it's told, and the time/integration into it there is, I cannot describe any other way in Lopez's case. None of which takes away from the mastery and power of his other stories, and the rest of the piece. But it is an issue. Particularly for those of us with a connection to those stories/histories. Right enough ranting about that back to work with me. |
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Post by happytobehere on Oct 21, 2018 11:17:11 GMT
Out of curiosity, do people prefer seeing this as a double bill in one day, or on 2 separate days?
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Post by frontrowcentre on Oct 21, 2018 12:35:22 GMT
Saw Part 2 friday night after seeing part 1 last Monday.
Went to the theatre in two minds really. I couldn't wait to to see those characters on stage again but on the other hand I was fearing that I was going to be somehow disappointed as Part 1 was so good I thought It just could not get better. It didn't help spotting a slip of paper in my program, which I decided to buy although I never buy them anymore, announcing that Vanessa Redgrave was indisposed.
However all my fears faded as I found myself feeling greatly moved during the very first scene and I knew I was in for another evening of very special theatre. The most brilliant moment of both parts is still the end of part one but I found part two to be more emotional in more parts, in other words I cried more often..
Bit disappointed to have missed Vanessa Redgrave. The part with the female character didn't seem to me like the most interesting part, felt a bit distracting but it could have been because I'm not sure how many times the actress stepping in had been on but she seemed a bit uncomfortable in the role and also at that point someone seated close to me started snoring and was very distracted by it, I couldn't really engage..
ttellapttam, I think seeing each part in different days is a better idea, as I find that both on the same day could be a bit too much. Unless that's it you don't feel moved by the piece at all. emicardiff maybe is a good idea to see part 2 on a separate day if you decide to give this a second chance
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Post by Dr Tom on Oct 21, 2018 13:30:24 GMT
Vanessa Redgrave was indisposed Who is the understudy? I can't see it listed online anywhere. No one has mentioned seeing the understudy before, so you may well have seen her first performance in the role (which some would consider a great privilege). |
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Post by princeton on Oct 21, 2018 14:59:20 GMT
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Post by sherriebythesea on Oct 22, 2018 18:53:27 GMT
Not about the play but I just noticed that the Lord Mayor's fireworks are going to be going off on my 2 play day of Oct 10th. If I'm reading it right it should be starting between shows.
Does anyone know if I'd be close enough to be able to see some of them and get back to theatre by 7pm for 7:15 play?
Thank you !
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 12:53:24 GMT
I forget about the Lord Mayor's Show EVERY YEAR and always find myself awkwardly wanting to cross the parade route between shows. Delighted to see I've managed to book a matinee and an evening show on the same side of the river for once this year! Thought I'd heard they weren't having fireworks this year though?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 13:04:34 GMT
Yes, I had a look and can see references to the fireworks being cancelled and then un-cancelled, not sure what the current status is! I think I'd be concerned about getting stuck in the crowds if I was in a rush. Also you may not be in a fireworks mood after part 1 of The Inheritance!
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Post by TallPaul on Oct 23, 2018 13:09:01 GMT
From what I've been able to find online, it seems the fireworks were off, then back on, but are now off again on police advice.
It should, however, be possible to watch most, if not all, the actual parade before a matinee. The front should reach the Royal Courts of Justice by about 11.30am, and the tail by 12.45pm.
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Post by happytobehere on Oct 23, 2018 19:27:58 GMT
Well after reading this thread i’m just going to have to book- i know i’ll regret it if I don’t! Does anyone have any seat recommendations? Anything to definitely avoid?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 11:32:23 GMT
I know we're OT a bit, but one year I decided to take a trip to the museum of London where they have among many other fine exhibits, that bling tastic carriage the Lord Mayor processes in...except it was that weekend, so it was an empty room with some very disturbing fake horses.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 19:00:05 GMT
Amazing
That both this
And company
Have sold so badly
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 19:02:15 GMT
Goodness
Some double play days
Balcony closed
Other levels 80% unsold
Amazing
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Post by theatreliker on Oct 25, 2018 18:20:17 GMT
Are they selling the posters?
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Post by yokollama on Oct 26, 2018 16:44:29 GMT
Are they selling the posters? I don't recall them selling posters. I may be wrong, but I only saw the play text and t-shirt (£20 for the latter). |
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Post by siteseer on Oct 31, 2018 13:32:32 GMT
Theatremonkey,
I am in seat D22 ( on the aisle ) should I worry.
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Post by Rory on Oct 31, 2018 14:12:27 GMT
I was in E23, directly behind. Not really it is just that at one point a character does a really thick spit on the carpet, near the box wall in line with row C / D. A bit gross is all. The view from the seat is great, BTW. Thank God for that! I was beginning to think all sorts! |
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Post by siteseer on Oct 31, 2018 15:57:00 GMT
Thanks for the info theatremonkey.
I am relieved.
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Post by schuttep on Nov 1, 2018 14:19:14 GMT
These two plays are amazing. I saw them yesterday on the same day and was in tears at the end of Part 1. Part 2 ends a beautiful story arc. IMHO it's better to see them both in order (not necessarily on the same day).
Not a huge number of empty seats but I agree with theatremonkey's comment which may well be causing two-play fatigue.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 23:09:56 GMT
Part 1 today. Brilliant play. That ending is so powerful!
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Post by sf on Nov 2, 2018 1:53:03 GMT
There's a feeling I'm getting that people are getting fed up with having to see "two part" plays. This is the third in the West End this year alone, and the novelty is wearing thin. Add to that, we are in peak theatre season, with a lot going on and there is a fair chance many are saying "we saw it at the Young Vic, and can't spare the time" or simply substituting "we saw it at the Young Vic" for "stuff it, 7 hours, £100."
Another factor for those of us outside London: on a weekday my last train home is at 11pm. The running time is just long enough to make catching that train after part 2 a gamble, which makes it difficult to see both parts in a single day without staying overnight, which adds significant expense. I already saw it at the Young Vic (and stayed overnight in order to do so), and if I lived within commuting distance of London I'd certainly see it again, but it's difficult to justify a second overnight stay for a return visit.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2018 18:14:50 GMT
That was my issue too. Wanted to see it again (partly to see if my gripes are justified or just me being grumpy)but it turns into paying for a weekend in London for one play I’ve seen, because there’s no train that late and even a bus would get me in at say 3am, which is frankly ridiculous at my age.
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Post by bcnyc on Nov 7, 2018 21:56:08 GMT
Hi! I'm going to be in London in a couple of weeks and am definitely going to day seat this. Has anybody been on a Saturday for both parts? I read one report saying day seats are fairly easy to get and not a huge line by 10am, but wanted to ask if anyone's had experience buying day seats for this? Also, where have the seats been generally located?
any help or advice would be greatly appreciated!
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