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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 0:43:38 GMT
Guess which musicals performing?
Bugsy Malone
Guys and Dolls
Seven Brides
Mrs Henderson
Gypsy
Kinky Boots
In The Heights
AND
STAND UP
STAND UP AND SING
STAND UP
STAND UP AND SING
I shall be clapping and dancing in the aisles
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Post by rumbledoll on Mar 25, 2016 7:37:39 GMT
As for Donnelly vs. Parker in terms of vocals..
I only heard Killian in Memphis and was shocked how much his voice is lacking any kind of depth and soulfulness the part required.. so uninspiring.
Jamie's baritone is just the one that always does the trick for me - goosebumps all over, too many times to count. When he really goes for it in a ballad's climax his voice overflows every little corner of the room with so much richness and warmth. *I really miss this pinkish smile surrounded with hearts from the previous forum)))*
And what's interesting- Jamie doesn't seem to have the 'traditional voice' for musical theatre that is praised in some great musical's leading man but which I always found a bit monotonous to be frank.. He has an 'actor's voice' when it's more about telling the story rather than hitting a note. If you know what I mean (those who watched last year's BBC Sinatra Proms probably do).
But then again.. Peter Davison is nominated who simply can't sing AT ALL, so... anything can happen 
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Post by rumbledoll on Mar 25, 2016 7:43:32 GMT
Apologies if this has already been brought up, but thought that everyone would be interested to know that the following article claims that along with the highlights of the awards ceremony broadcast at 22:15 on Sunday 3rd April on ITV1 as usual, the full ceremony will be broadcast a day later (Monday 4th April) on ITV3! Fantastic news in this is the actual plan! EDIT: Olivier Awards confirm that the full ceremony will be broadcast on ITV3 on Monday 4th April at 11pm! Fantastic!! www.officiallondontheatre.co.uk/news/latest-news/article/item357689/vanessa-redgrave-to-appear-at-oliviers/Says NO live coverage pn YouTube either.. only after the ceremony. That's disappointing. But it's good to know we all (UK/-non-UK fans) are going to see Oliviers in full this year  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 15:54:39 GMT
I am wanting one of the Gypsy men to win Supporting. I personally am more in favour of Dan but if Peter wins, I wouldn't be disappointed either. Sure, he isn't the best singer but Herbie isn't meant to be a good singer. And he acts the hell outta the role!
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Post by theatremiss on Mar 25, 2016 21:59:44 GMT
Am just reading Shenton's views of who he wants to win what, was he one of the ones who raved about BILB? Because he has said he wants it to win pretty much every category it is nominated in, including Best Musical. I mean, I know he was a fan, and I am sure it will win that weird Achievement in Music category but still... 
Whereas, in every category other than Best Actor in a Musical for Killian, he completely s**ts on Kinky Boots, which I am assuming he hated a lot based on his views and opinions? Am I the only one who actually liked Killian? I would definitely choose him over Matt Henry, Jamie Parker and David Haig. Just my opinion, I think it's only me and Mark who think this. I don't know what it was people didn't like about him. I thought he was extremely talented when I saw the show and he was exceptionally good in the scene where he sung 'Soul of a Man'. I'd choose Killian over Matt but I am a Killian fan. IMHO he can do no wrong and puts in faultless performances in everything I've seen him in from Les Mis to Kinky. I suspect Matt will win this though |
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Post by littleflyer on Mar 25, 2016 22:15:11 GMT
IMHO Shenton love BILB because he is in love with Sonia Friedman
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 22:26:59 GMT
I do wonder what the closed shows will perform (ala BILB and Gypsy). I hope they will be smart and show off the best parts of both... "Glorious" from BILB is my hope. As for Gypsy, I hope for Imelda to storm "Rose's Turn" or "Everything's Coming Up Roses", but I would be happy with the predictable choice of "You Gotta Get a Gimmick". I even have a slight hope that Mr. Dan Burton is given the chance to do "All I Need is The Girl" once more. |
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Post by bobwordsmith on Mar 25, 2016 23:11:51 GMT
A few personal observations (but hell what do I know?! lol):
IMO Killian should win for Best Actor in a Musical - such a beautifully crafted performance in Kinky Boots and his vocals are nothing short of astonishing in anything he does (thought he should have won last year for Memphis - one the of best male performances I have ever seen in a West End show). Though I have to say I was also blown away by Ian Bartholomew in Mrs Henderson Presents. Imelda is pretty much a lock for Best Actress in a Musical - but for her, Laura Pitt-Pulford would be my choice from the "also rans" (she's a phenomenal talent).
It seems that the Best Musical award is a fight between Kinky Boots and Bend It Like Beckham - really enjoyed both of these shows, slightly favouring Bend It of the two. But for me IN THE HEIGHTS is in a different class altogether from any of the other nominees - ground breaking, unique with a score that can only be described as pure genius and the production has SO much energy performed by a cast to die for. But sadly I fear it does not have enough of a high profile to win. (Though if Drew McOnie does not win for choreography, there is no God!)
You can probably ignore all of my comments though - I didn't agree with hardly any of the winners last year LOL.
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Post by littleflyer on Mar 26, 2016 0:01:31 GMT
I do wonder what the closed shows will perform (ala BILB and Gypsy). I hope they will be smart and show off the best parts of both... "Glorious" from BILB is my hope. As for Gypsy, I hope for Imelda to storm "Rose's Turn" or "Everything's Coming Up Roses", but I would be happy with the predictable choice of "You Gotta Get a Gimmick". I even have a slight hope that Mr. Dan Burton is given the chance to do "All I Need is The Girl" once more. I hope Imelda will do a solo number, Roses Turn preferably, either that or Together Wherever We Go as Imelda, Lara and Peter are all up for awards. Personally I am not keen on You Gotta Get A Gimmick and don't feel it best shows off the production. Personally I would like to see Matt go home with the award, I think Killians performance is amazing, but for me Matt makes the show. I do also have to agree with bobwordsmith about In The Heights, I saw this at the Southwalk Playhouse and thought it was an incredible piece of theatre that could deffo do with a bit more recognition |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2016 0:14:06 GMT
I wouldn't count out In The Heights winning at all actually. It exceeded a lot of expectations, has extended a few times, has great reviews and audience response... I am gonna predict it to be Kinky Boots, which is my personal choice and I think the most likely to win, but I wouldn't count out In The Heights winning, even over BILB! I haven't seen it yet so I am only working off of word of mouth and what I have heard.
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Post by rumbledoll on Mar 27, 2016 9:40:38 GMT
I am wanting one of the Gypsy men to win Supporting. I personally am more in favour of Dan but if Peter wins, I wouldn't be disappointed either. Sure, he isn't the best singer but Herbie isn't meant to be a good singer. And he acts the hell outta the role!
I thought every musical actor should be able to sing at least to the degree when it doesn't make you cringe while listening... I do love Peter Davison as an actor, don't get me wrong. He was particularly brilliant in All Creatures.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2016 10:21:42 GMT
I think In the Heights would be unbeatable if it was the Broadway production, the major thing that may defeat it is sniffiness at this being an off West End transfer. For me, BILB suffered from weak direction and KB from weak material, ITH has both stronger material and direction, plus it also has the Lin Manuel Miranda factor and, with Hamilton, a bona fide phenomenon to tap into. BILB has its best chance with its score and KB with its performances, I think.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2016 13:37:37 GMT
The Oliviers don't just consider the objective strength of the material, direction and performances. They also reflect the potential commercial impact of the awards and their publicity effect on diverse audience sectors.
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Mar 27, 2016 14:12:35 GMT
I am wanting one of the Gypsy men to win Supporting. I personally am more in favour of Dan but if Peter wins, I wouldn't be disappointed either. Sure, he isn't the best singer but Herbie isn't meant to be a good singer. And he acts the hell outta the role!
I thought every musical actor should be able to sing at least to the degree when it doesn't make you cringe while listening... I do love Peter Davison as an actor, don't get me wrong. He was particularly brilliant in All Creatures.
I thought he was quite a good actor, but his singing was so bad it really put me of his portrayal. Lin-Manuel Miranda hasn't got the best vocals in Hamilton either, but he's got enough to get him though and I don't feel Peter has enough to get him through. |
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Post by easilypleased on Mar 27, 2016 15:34:33 GMT
The Oliviers don't just consider the objective strength of the material, direction and performances. They also reflect the potential commercial impact of the awards and their publicity effect on diverse audience sectors. Sounds interesting but I have no idea what you mean. Could you expand please? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2016 16:05:51 GMT
The Oliviers don't just consider the objective strength of the material, direction and performances. They also reflect the potential commercial impact of the awards and their publicity effect on diverse audience sectors. Sounds interesting but I have no idea what you mean. Could you expand please? Well, from experience, the Oliviers sometimes award the show that isn't the most commercially successful - Forbidden Planet not Miss Saigon, Honk not Lion King, even Sunny Afternoon not Beautiful. Then again, if a show is a real juggernaut such as BOM, Hairspray or Matilda then gets far too much momentum to overcome. That also reflects how a win would bring in 'diverse audience sectors' who may then go and book for other shows. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2016 17:01:11 GMT
To expand my comment, producers are part of the nomination and voting processes and it's in their interests to use the Olivier bandwagon to promote shows and performers in such a way as to best affect their present and future commercial performance, and to promote public interest in their activities.
Awards nominated and judged by critics might take the "What's best?" approach but the Oliviers are more "What publicity is in the producers' best interests?"
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Post by easilypleased on Mar 27, 2016 20:43:36 GMT
To expand my comment, producers are part of the nomination and voting processes and it's in their interests to use the Olivier bandwagon to promote shows and performers in such a way as to best affect their present and future commercial performance, and to promote public interest in their activities. Awards nominated and judged by critics might take the "What's best?" approach but the Oliviers are more "What publicity is in the producers' best interests?" Gosh, sounds borderline corrupt! No wonder I couldn't find a bookmaker to bet on it. |
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 27, 2016 21:12:33 GMT
I would say primary the Oliver are awarded for excellence in theatre, where the Tony is all about promoting shows at the box office, I am not saying this doesn't happen in the Olivers, but not as blatant as the Tonys.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2016 21:37:49 GMT
I hope there is at least one big shock this year, maybe in one of the acting categories. I always like a big shock just to switch it up so it will be interesting to see if there will be any.
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 27, 2016 22:34:32 GMT
Think you get a shock every year, said this on here before, last year on the the old demised forum 49.5% wee saying that Motown would win best musical, the other 49.5% was saying Beautiful, it was only me, the lone voice who said Here Lies Love should win, in the end Sunnny Afternoon won.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2016 22:53:33 GMT
Think you get a shock every year, said this on here before, last year on the the old demised forum 49.5% wee saying that Motown would win best musical, the other 49.5% was saying Beautiful, it was only me, the lone voice who said Here Lies Love should win, in the end Sunnny Afternoon won. I'm assuming you mean Memphis?
I am gonna be one of the lone people to predict Emma over Lara to win.
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Post by catqc on Mar 28, 2016 3:09:47 GMT
Never really understand why 'shocks' are good - especially in the nominations list. Surely we are decent judges of good theatre, and anyone we hadn't considered worthy (and is therefore a 'shock') probably shouldn't be nominated?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2016 10:51:08 GMT
Depends on the shock - if the shock is that a jobbing actor doing the best work of their career gets the award over the movie stars, TV actors, and national treasures that are also nominated in their category, then that is the finest shock there is and an indicator that sometimes the awards do look at quality rather than just who's the most famous. 'Cos it's depressingly usually the movie star who wins.
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Post by rumbledoll on Mar 28, 2016 11:24:48 GMT
Depends on the shock - if the shock is that a jobbing actor doing the best work of their career gets the award over the movie stars, TV actors, and national treasures that are also nominated in their category, then that is the finest shock there is and an indicator that sometimes the awards do look at quality rather than just who's the most famous. 'Cos it's depressingly usually the movie star who wins. Rory Kinnear won over Tom Hiddleston in Best Actor category two years ago (and most shockingly - in a good way - Luke Treadaway over Everett & Rylance one year before that) so there is hope  |
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