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Post by longinthetooth on Mar 28, 2016 18:20:25 GMT
Ha ha ha ha ha! Michael Ball is on the One Show, talking about the Oliviers, and has just said he is seeing Bend It Like Beckham next week!
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Post by anthony40 on Mar 28, 2016 18:24:18 GMT
Yeah, just saw that.
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Post by Michael on Mar 28, 2016 18:46:22 GMT
Surely he was talking about the DVD???
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Post by theatremadness on Mar 28, 2016 18:50:57 GMT
He just tweeted that he meant Mrs Henderson Presents...!!! Good cover up....
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 28, 2016 23:34:19 GMT
I saw that on the one show, I thought he would be all over Beckham, especially all the love it got from the press and a certain colleague.
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Post by alece10 on Mar 29, 2016 6:27:50 GMT
That really confused me and I put it down to eating too much chocolate
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Post by easilypleased on Mar 29, 2016 16:12:51 GMT
Let's guess what he will tweet after seeing MHP and see who gets closest. I am convinced they use a tweet generator for such occasions, preprogrammed with a set of suitably effusive compliments.
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Post by nash16 on Mar 29, 2016 22:12:10 GMT
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Post by lynette on Mar 29, 2016 22:48:56 GMT
Twas same when I did it. The long lists came back altered. The shortlist for the plays ( I was a plays panellist ) sections stayed the same and the winners were pretty obvious and I think we were happy with them but not so the musical list which I hadn't contributed to. But it seems from this article that the changes have become more blatant.
It wasn't a proper voting system in that the voting was secret yes, on paper, but then it was kept secret until the announcements so the panel had no idea as the vote wasn't counted before them. So anything could have happened...and probably did. There was no discussion or argument in my day. Any comments were just prodded into a couple of meetings that were dominated by the industry members. In fact I remember being delighted when AA Gill who was on my panel actually offered one or two sharp comments of criticism about some shows as no one seemed to be allowed to offer an opinion.
That said, it was great seeing all the plays in a year for nowt, two tix a show, best seats plus programmes and for that I would recommend you guys applying if you do see a number of plays or shows a year. I remember being irritated at having to wait for a show to open officially before being allocated tickets. I like to do previews when I can so I was often left waiting to see a show that others had already seen. And it took a lot of diary juggling and two sometimes three evenings a week. And, and, I'm hesitating with this one because I'm not sure how it is policed these days but I do know that at least one person on the panel did not see all the shows and yet voted with the rest of us. I doubt everyone on the panel saw all the plays or shows they were supposed to see. I'm talking the industry people. We ordinary punters saw the lot. There are a few other ex Oliviers on this board. They may have had different experiences.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2016 8:06:53 GMT
I can't imagine that article is a surprise to anyone is it? When you look at the nominations year after year, it's clear that it's not about recognising the best people in their field (although I do admit that is entirely subjective and you'll never get a perfect list that everyone agrees on). It's an awards ceremony so it's about publicity and getting pictures in the papers and would we be surprised if it also included the odd backhander or two? |
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Post by easilypleased on Mar 30, 2016 12:38:45 GMT
Well based on these insights MHP is a banker for best new musical. It can't be BILB because that doesn't need the publicity as it's closed, it can't be Kinky Boots because it's already doing really well and anyway it's American, same for In the Heights, and MHP is British, has a stack of big names around it and definitely needs the publicity. See if I'm right :-)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2016 13:14:03 GMT
Well based on these insights MHP is a banker for best new musical. It can't be BILB because that doesn't need the publicity as it's closed, it can't be Kinky Boots because it's already doing really well and anyway it's American, same for In the Heights, and MHP is British, has a stack of big names around it and definitely needs the publicity. See if I'm right :-) See, I see it working out that BILB is already closed, so it won't win. Mrs. Henderson Presents isn't selling that great and will no doubt close at the end of its limited run even though I loved it.
That leaves Kinky Boots and In the Heights. In the Heights has already not been selling that great but it is powering through and has a fanbase. Kinky Boots is selling well, has extended three times, is popular, will make a lot of producers a lot of money etc... I think it will be one of the two that win, I would give the edge to Kinky Boots because of the success aspect, which seems to of grown since opening and already has quite a few repeat fan visits. But don't be surprised if In the Heights doesn't take it! 
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Post by Jon on Mar 31, 2016 0:22:22 GMT
Closed shows have won before, Caroline or Change did.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 1:52:04 GMT
Closed shows have won before, Caroline or Change did. I know, I am just having a guess that it will be one of the two. BILB or Henderson could well win, we shall just have to see. |
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Post by Snciole on Mar 31, 2016 8:38:54 GMT
This may turn into a bitter rant so I apologise in advance but I applied for the Affiliate Panel and heard absolutely nothing but looking at the nominations I am not sure the fringe is adequately represented by SOLT and eligible anyway?
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Post by anita on Mar 31, 2016 9:49:06 GMT
Well it looks like I won't be joining any of you at Covent Garden Plaza on Sunday as no trains on my line - only replacement buses due to engineering works. Will watch the highlights on tele instead.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 9:58:32 GMT
Closed shows have won before, Caroline or Change did. I know, I am just having a guess that it will be one of the two. BILB or Henderson could well win, we shall just have to see. Although neither of them give the newspaper photo opportunity that Kinky Boots can - Cyndi Lauper with a bunch of men in red kinky boots. Unless they pay the real David Beckham enough to present the award to Bend It Like Beckham . . . . |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 10:07:55 GMT
This may turn into a bitter rant so I apologise in advance but I applied for the Affiliate Panel and heard absolutely nothing but looking at the nominations I am not sure the fringe is adequately represented by SOLT and eligible anyway? SOLT doesn't represent anyone. It was previously called SWET (Society of West End Theatre) and is a membership organisation of West End theatres, with some outlying affiliate members. In the past, every member of the judging panel was required to see every eligible show at every member theatre. So everyone (industry and public) knew what was eligible and nothing could be overlooked. This was a Good Thing. The problem with opening up awards to Off-West End or the fringe or the whole UK or to Stratford or Chichester or wherever is that, as the pool widens, none of the judges can possibly see everything, and every judge prejudges in their personal choice of shows which they actually attend. So, UK theatre awards tend to honour the most prominent theatres because more judges will (lazily) have gone to see their shows. This is a Bad Thing. Now the Oliviers don't even have a judging panel. Instead, all the members vote in their own business interests. It's a big joke with song and dance attached. But the members prefer this because it gives them more publicity than in the old days when the moneymaking crap used not to win Oliviers. |
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Post by easilypleased on Mar 31, 2016 10:11:51 GMT
I know, I am just having a guess that it will be one of the two. BILB or Henderson could well win, we shall just have to see. Although neither of them give the newspaper photo opportunity that Kinky Boots can - Cyndi Lauper with a bunch of men in red kinky boots. Unless they pay the real David Beckham enough to present the award to Bend It Like Beckham . . . . Oh I think Mrs Henderson could provide the best photo opportunity of them all... |
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Post by charliec on Mar 31, 2016 20:14:42 GMT
Sorry if this has already been asked... Does anyone know where they hand out red carpet audience wrist bands on Sunday morning? Or at least I presume it's Sunday morning!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 9:13:06 GMT
Hearing Lin Manuel Miranda is in town. Anyone got any gossip?
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Post by Steffi on Apr 2, 2016 9:26:35 GMT
Hearing Lin Manuel Miranda is in town. Anyone got any gossip? I wouldn't be surprised if he made an appearance - maybe to accept an award should In the Heights win and / or to announce Hamilton coming to London. The In the Heights cast hasn't been told anything though (as of yesterday that is). |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 9:51:08 GMT
So what are everyones somewhat last day predictions before tomorrow night?
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Post by charliec on Apr 2, 2016 13:50:40 GMT
Hearing Lin Manuel Miranda is in town. Anyone got any gossip? I wouldn't be surprised if he made an appearance - maybe to accept an award should In the Heights win and / or to announce Hamilton coming to London. The In the Heights cast hasn't been told anything though (as of yesterday that is). Im tempted to go to Covent Garden tomorrow and loiter, I'm missing Lin's signature from my Ham playbill! |
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 2, 2016 20:24:24 GMT
I was wondering if there was someone on this board who could give me urgent advice about tomorrow. I am thinking of going to get autographs but I haven't any clue of where to go (do I just go to the theatre at a certain time to catch them as they go in?) and I have no clue what time to be there. Do they sign? Help would be very much appreciated! Thanks! |
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