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Post by rearstallsloiterer on Feb 29, 2016 14:30:40 GMT
How is Hamlet up for best sound design? I hope Drew McOnie wins for choroeography. Best supporting actor in a musical was clearly a struggle to come up with a list. why wouldn't Hamlet be up for best sound design?
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Post by alexandra on Feb 29, 2016 14:31:12 GMT
I have no idea about the musical noms but the play ones are pretty awful. The usual contingent of famous names who don't deserve it but they hope they'll turn up and make the ceremony glamorous.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 14:39:06 GMT
The sound design for Hamlet was quite good. I liked the set too. I don't think it deserves nominations for anything other than for the design elements though.
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Post by lynette on Feb 29, 2016 15:25:39 GMT
Feeling lazy, can someone link me a list.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 15:27:13 GMT
Agreed. If Hamlet deserved any nominations it was for the design-while the set isn't what I'd have personally gone with it was undeniably epic/interesting. Personally I loved the sound design as well.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 15:47:37 GMT
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Post by lou105 on Feb 29, 2016 15:56:29 GMT
show-stoppers didn't get a thing, Showstopper is up for Best Entertainment and Family
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 15:57:01 GMT
You gotta feel sorry for the likes of Jamie Foreman, Gemma Sutton, that Siobhan woman in Guys and Dolls etc. for being the only ones out of the leading line up to not be nominated! Jamie would not have a hope in hell but Siobhan was good in Guys and Dolls and Gemma Sutton was fabulous in Gypsy, and that role did win Bonnie Langford a Drama Desk Award back in the day!
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Post by d'James on Feb 29, 2016 16:06:27 GMT
Very surprised Preeya Kalidas's nomination. She wasn't in my top three performances (by a female) in that show. Maybe they're just trying to avoid their own mini race-row, not that the Oliviers have been bad on that front in the past.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 16:09:33 GMT
Very surprised Preeya Kalidas's nomination. She wasn't in my top three performances (by a female) in that show. Maybe they're just trying to avoid their own mini race-row, not that the Oliviers have been bad on that front in the past. Really? She was my favourite part of the show (well, her and Sophie Louise-Dann) so I am thrilled at her nomination... Lauren Samuels is a good but not award worthy in my opinion.
Plus, Sophie should of been nominated for Dagenham last year, her number quite nearly stole the show from Gemma.
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Post by d'James on Feb 29, 2016 16:12:17 GMT
No, I thought her performance was very one-note and obvious. Just a bland copy of the girls from Goodness Gracious Me. She's better than that.
Although, having said that she was probably written like that and directed to act it like that, so in that sense I guess she did it perfectly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 16:24:36 GMT
Although, having said that she was probably written like that and directed to act it like that, so in that sense I guess she did it perfectly.
Probably explains why that awful Gurinder woman didn't get nominated!
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Post by Jon on Feb 29, 2016 16:42:27 GMT
Best New Play is a tough category, I think it'll be between Hangmen and People, Places and Things.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 16:49:18 GMT
Best New Musical is a tough Category! I was thinking Kinky Boots was the lock to win but I think it could go any way at the moment...
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Post by theatreliker on Feb 29, 2016 17:19:00 GMT
I'm a big fan of Suchet but when I saw his performance as Lady Bracknell (pre-London, admittedly) it was technical challenge but didn't seemingly require him to find the emotional and intellectual depth of some of his other roles. Although, he should've won for All My Sons, in my opinion. No Mofo Hat? No Johnny Flynn? No Chiwetel Ejiofor or Death of a Salesman?
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Post by Phantom of London on Feb 29, 2016 17:50:02 GMT
Be careful when you stick your neck on th block and make bold perdictions who is going to win, last year 49.5% of he board was sure that Memphis was a shoe in to win the other 49.5% was saying that Beautiful had it in the bag, I was the lone voice on here that said that Here Lies Love would do it, in the end Sunny Afternoon won.
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Post by lynette on Feb 29, 2016 18:05:17 GMT
Thank you ! I haven't seen all of them in the plays categories but I don't think Cumbers really could have been the best. Judi Dench actually I think does deserve the award. Funny that...she is good. I think that Shakespeare wrote that part for her.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 18:05:33 GMT
Oh no prediction here anymore, god knows who is gonna take the top prize!
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Post by mrbarnaby on Feb 29, 2016 18:25:05 GMT
I cannot believe Johnny Flynn wasn't nominated.
That is outrageous.
And how on earth did Brannagh get nominated? He was appalling in that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 18:29:20 GMT
I cannot believe Johnny Flynn wasn't nominated. That is outrageous. These *are* the Oliviers! There are some unknown names that they can't avoid not including (Denise Gough) but it's about getting the famous names in (Cummerbund, Kidman, Suchet, Branagh et al) and if some of them happen to have given a good performance (Judi Dench, Gemma Arterton) then that's a bonus.
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Post by Polly1 on Feb 29, 2016 18:30:31 GMT
I'm a big fan of Suchet but when I saw his performance as Lady Bracknell (pre-London, admittedly) it was technical challenge but didn't seemingly require him to find the emotional and intellectual depth of some of his other roles. Although, he should've won for All My Sons, in my opinion. Yes, I think Suchet is in the Leo category (sympathy/lifetime achievement vote) for the Oliviers - been nominated something like 6 times and never won. I'm also a big fan and never forgiven Kevin Spacey for winning the year Suchet should have won for Amadeus.
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Post by Dawnstar on Feb 29, 2016 19:01:37 GMT
I'm very pleased to see Peter Pan Goes Wrong got nominated as somehow it didn't occur to me that they might be. I'm not sure if they are likely to win though or if it will count against them that The Play That Goes Wrong already won last year.
I'm also very pleased for Showstopper, though it is quite funny to see them alongside a bunch of children's shows. They were at my local theatre last week and one especially of the shows I saw them do was hardly family entertainment! Adam Meggido has done very well, effectively being nominated as both actor & director with Showstopper & Peter Pan Goes Wrong.
Also pleased for Laura Pitt-Pulford, Emma Wiliams & Jamie Parker, though I don't expect any of them to win their categories.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 19:06:59 GMT
Plenty to be confused about but no Jonny Flynn is just insane, none of the nominees in that category are anywhere near his performance (and a large number of other unnominated actors can also be somewhat aggrieved). Angus Wright for best actor for Oresteia clearly wan't famous enough either.
Some of my favourites were never going to be liked enough by the more traditionally focused Oliviers but the play revival and director nominations include some that are very unworthy. Hamlet and Les Liaisons Dangereuses when I would have included Measure for Measure (Young Vic) and Beaux Stratagem (entirely forgotten, NT) and Jonathan Kent repeating pretty much what Jerome Robbins already did for Gypsy coming nowhere near the achievement of Michael Longhurst for Carmen Disruption (Almeida, similarly forgotten)
As for musicals, less to disagree with purely because they have a very small pool to fish in but Close To You deserved something instead of the execrable score created by Lauper and Oremus.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 20:06:39 GMT
As I understand it, the producers for each production decide where/whom they want to put forward for each category and while SOLT does question some choices, ultimately SOLT do take a hands off approach, hence why some people / shows are in weird categories. Obviously there are politics in play as some producers put their shows/stars in categories they deem more of a chance of being nominated/winning.
For someone who asked who selects the nominees, its the whole SOLT membership. The only thing the panel really does is to draw up the longlist for the supporting acting categories. However, for the rest of the categories they only call out what they think should be considered (which then comes with a *) next to the form....
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Post by couldileaveyou on Feb 29, 2016 21:22:48 GMT
I haven't seen it, but isn't it weird that The Master Builder didn't receive any nomination?
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