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Post by d'James on Feb 29, 2016 16:12:17 GMT
No, I thought her performance was very one-note and obvious. Just a bland copy of the girls from Goodness Gracious Me. She's better than that.
Although, having said that she was probably written like that and directed to act it like that, so in that sense I guess she did it perfectly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 16:24:36 GMT
Although, having said that she was probably written like that and directed to act it like that, so in that sense I guess she did it perfectly.
Probably explains why that awful Gurinder woman didn't get nominated!
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Post by Jon on Feb 29, 2016 16:42:27 GMT
Best New Play is a tough category, I think it'll be between Hangmen and People, Places and Things.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 16:49:18 GMT
Best New Musical is a tough Category! I was thinking Kinky Boots was the lock to win but I think it could go any way at the moment...
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Post by theatreliker on Feb 29, 2016 17:19:00 GMT
I'm a big fan of Suchet but when I saw his performance as Lady Bracknell (pre-London, admittedly) it was technical challenge but didn't seemingly require him to find the emotional and intellectual depth of some of his other roles. Although, he should've won for All My Sons, in my opinion. No Mofo Hat? No Johnny Flynn? No Chiwetel Ejiofor or Death of a Salesman?
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Post by Phantom of London on Feb 29, 2016 17:50:02 GMT
Be careful when you stick your neck on th block and make bold perdictions who is going to win, last year 49.5% of he board was sure that Memphis was a shoe in to win the other 49.5% was saying that Beautiful had it in the bag, I was the lone voice on here that said that Here Lies Love would do it, in the end Sunny Afternoon won.
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Post by lynette on Feb 29, 2016 18:05:17 GMT
Thank you ! I haven't seen all of them in the plays categories but I don't think Cumbers really could have been the best. Judi Dench actually I think does deserve the award. Funny that...she is good. I think that Shakespeare wrote that part for her.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 18:05:33 GMT
Oh no prediction here anymore, god knows who is gonna take the top prize!
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Post by mrbarnaby on Feb 29, 2016 18:25:05 GMT
I cannot believe Johnny Flynn wasn't nominated.
That is outrageous.
And how on earth did Brannagh get nominated? He was appalling in that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 18:29:20 GMT
I cannot believe Johnny Flynn wasn't nominated. That is outrageous. These *are* the Oliviers! There are some unknown names that they can't avoid not including (Denise Gough) but it's about getting the famous names in (Cummerbund, Kidman, Suchet, Branagh et al) and if some of them happen to have given a good performance (Judi Dench, Gemma Arterton) then that's a bonus.
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Post by Polly1 on Feb 29, 2016 18:30:31 GMT
I'm a big fan of Suchet but when I saw his performance as Lady Bracknell (pre-London, admittedly) it was technical challenge but didn't seemingly require him to find the emotional and intellectual depth of some of his other roles. Although, he should've won for All My Sons, in my opinion. Yes, I think Suchet is in the Leo category (sympathy/lifetime achievement vote) for the Oliviers - been nominated something like 6 times and never won. I'm also a big fan and never forgiven Kevin Spacey for winning the year Suchet should have won for Amadeus.
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Post by Dawnstar on Feb 29, 2016 19:01:37 GMT
I'm very pleased to see Peter Pan Goes Wrong got nominated as somehow it didn't occur to me that they might be. I'm not sure if they are likely to win though or if it will count against them that The Play That Goes Wrong already won last year.
I'm also very pleased for Showstopper, though it is quite funny to see them alongside a bunch of children's shows. They were at my local theatre last week and one especially of the shows I saw them do was hardly family entertainment! Adam Meggido has done very well, effectively being nominated as both actor & director with Showstopper & Peter Pan Goes Wrong.
Also pleased for Laura Pitt-Pulford, Emma Wiliams & Jamie Parker, though I don't expect any of them to win their categories.
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on Feb 29, 2016 19:06:59 GMT
Plenty to be confused about but no Jonny Flynn is just insane, none of the nominees in that category are anywhere near his performance (and a large number of other unnominated actors can also be somewhat aggrieved). Angus Wright for best actor for Oresteia clearly wan't famous enough either.
Some of my favourites were never going to be liked enough by the more traditionally focused Oliviers but the play revival and director nominations include some that are very unworthy. Hamlet and Les Liaisons Dangereuses when I would have included Measure for Measure (Young Vic) and Beaux Stratagem (entirely forgotten, NT) and Jonathan Kent repeating pretty much what Jerome Robbins already did for Gypsy coming nowhere near the achievement of Michael Longhurst for Carmen Disruption (Almeida, similarly forgotten)
As for musicals, less to disagree with purely because they have a very small pool to fish in but Close To You deserved something instead of the execrable score created by Lauper and Oremus.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 20:06:39 GMT
As I understand it, the producers for each production decide where/whom they want to put forward for each category and while SOLT does question some choices, ultimately SOLT do take a hands off approach, hence why some people / shows are in weird categories. Obviously there are politics in play as some producers put their shows/stars in categories they deem more of a chance of being nominated/winning.
For someone who asked who selects the nominees, its the whole SOLT membership. The only thing the panel really does is to draw up the longlist for the supporting acting categories. However, for the rest of the categories they only call out what they think should be considered (which then comes with a *) next to the form....
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Post by couldileaveyou on Feb 29, 2016 21:22:48 GMT
I haven't seen it, but isn't it weird that The Master Builder didn't receive any nomination?
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Post by theatre-turtle on Feb 29, 2016 21:32:37 GMT
I'm still in shock that Eva Nobelzada didn't get a nomination last year
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 21:41:43 GMT
I'm still in shock that Eva Nobelzada didn't get a nomination last year She was as well...but it didn't help that everyone (well many fans/industry peeps) got her hopes up by telling her that she was going to get nommed and then it didn't happen....I almost think its better to assume that someone won't be and then be pleasantly surprised...
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Post by Honoured Guest on Feb 29, 2016 22:50:05 GMT
Plenty to be confused about but no Jonny Flynn is just insane, none of the nominees in that category are anywhere near his performance I agree that Johnny Flynn was a likely nominee but Tom Sturridge was also excellent. (I didn't see any of the other nominees' performances).
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Post by talkstageytome on Feb 29, 2016 22:57:42 GMT
I do think the nominations are rather boring this year. It's just the same couple of things nominated for every category, which makes no sense given how much brilliant stuff has been around this year. Happy that Hand To God was nominated for best new comedy, but I'd have nominated Harry Melling for his part as well given that he pretty much carries the whole thing single handedly. As with every year, I've seen WAY more musicals than plays, but surprisingly I've not seen every musical in the musical theatre categories as I didn't see Guys and Dolls or Bend It Like Beckham. Would've liked to have seen Sam Mackay on the list of Best Actor in A Musical. Bedella was very good but not the most memorable character in my opinion. Happy for Dan Burton though as I thought he was fantastic in Gypsy (although he'd left by the time I got to see the show, and so I only saw him on the televised version of Gypsy). Best Actress in a Supporting Role in a Musical is a tough category but I think that Lara will probably get it. Imelda's probably got Best Actress in a Musical in the bag, and from the hype around Matt Henry in Kinky Boots I'd say he'll probably bag that award too, even though when I saw the show I didn't love him in the role. Anyway, I look forward to the ceremony as the musical acts are always fun, even if the wins are often quite predictable.
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Post by theatre-turtle on Feb 29, 2016 23:08:26 GMT
I'm still in shock that Eva Nobelzada didn't get a nomination last year She was as well...but it didn't help that everyone (well many fans/industry peeps) got her hopes up by telling her that she was going to get nommed and then it didn't happen....I almost think its better to assume that someone won't be and then be pleasantly surprised... She did well to get on stage and perform so well at the ceremony considering. I was nowhere near as mature at her age, I was mostly focused on getting drunk and going on the pull.
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Post by d'James on Mar 1, 2016 1:36:24 GMT
Saw In The Heights tonight and now I'm really confused about which show I want to win Best Musical (I've seen three out of the four.) I'm surprised David Bedella was nominated, he was really good as usual but it's just not a very memorable role.
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Post by caa on Mar 1, 2016 7:06:36 GMT
Johnny Flynn really ought to have been nominated but there are plenty of other performers who might have got one too. The awards also really show up that these are for the West End so Amanda Lawrence misses out which is a real shame. What I find odd is that bar a few exceptions the nominated shows have all opened just before or after Christmas, so any show that was on last summer has a lesser chance of getting nominated. What is the qualifying period?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2016 8:53:29 GMT
I feel like Amanda Lawrence should have been eligible, 'cos Roger Allam won for Falstaff at the Globe. But I guess if the awards are looking to publicise shows and sell tickets, then people are going to want to see the actress who won the award rather than the one who played it last summer and has moved on.
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Post by Squire Sullen on Mar 1, 2016 9:24:01 GMT
I feel like Amanda Lawrence should have been eligible, 'cos Roger Allam won for Falstaff at the Globe. But I guess if the awards are looking to publicise shows and sell tickets, then people are going to want to see the actress who won the award rather than the one who played it last summer and has moved on. If I remember rightly Nell Gwynn only played a dozen or so performances at the Globe? Therefore it wouldn't have been eligible in any category for its run there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2016 10:05:14 GMT
Ohhh, good point. Yeah, was definitely only a short run, ignore me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2016 11:07:35 GMT
I haven't seen it, but isn't it weird that The Master Builder didn't receive any nomination? I was surprised High Society got nothing! I would've thought it at least deserved Choreography or Revival. Not to mention Kate Fleetwood, who was brilliant!
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Post by vdcni on Mar 1, 2016 11:27:23 GMT
Yeah I'm surprised about High Society particularly when Guys and Dolls did so well - High Society may be a weaker musical but it was a better production - especially the choreography.
Nothing for Fiennes is odd - more deserving than Cumberbatch or Branagh that's for sure. Actually was Man & Superman eligible last year or this as he was better in that the Master Builder? Geoffrey Streatfeild I would have preferred as well ahead of those two but celebrity wins out again - surprised no Bradley Cooper really!
Would have liked to see Sinead Cusack on the list for Splendour as well.
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Post by vickster51 on Mar 1, 2016 12:15:50 GMT
Well I haven't seen all the nominees yet but a few things leapt out at me when seeing the nominee list.
- like a lot of other people, my first thought was how on earth they could have overlooked Johnny Flynn. That's simply crazy! Michael Pennington nominated for The Winter's Tale? He was fine, but certainly not better than the likes of Johnny Flynn! From that list surely it has to go to Tom Sturridge.
- Kenneth Branagh is seriously nominated for The Winter's Tale? I was in the camp that thought he was the weakest, wooden link of the production. Sad there is no nomination for John Heffernan for Oppenheimer, in which I thought he was excellent.
- The best actress category is pretty strong which is great to see.
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Post by mrcurry on Mar 1, 2016 21:32:45 GMT
I do not really rate the Olivier awards. How many of these former winners are regarded as classic shows ? The judges seem to be out of step with normal theatre-goers views.
Grand Hotel Guys And Dolls Caroline, Or Change The Magic Flute La Cage Aux Folles Hello, Dolly Into The Woods Crazy For You Sweeney Todd Merrily We Roll Along City Of Angels
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on Mar 1, 2016 22:29:50 GMT
I do not really rate the Olivier awards. How many of these former winners are regarded as classic shows ? The judges seem to be out of step with normal theatre-goers views. Grand Hotel Guys And Dolls Caroline, Or Change The Magic Flute La Cage Aux Folles Hello, Dolly Into The Woods Crazy For You Sweeney Todd Merrily We Roll Along City Of Angels They're all classic shows, you could quibble about Merrily, given its chequered history and The Magic Flute was a South African reworking of the Mozart original but all are very highly regarded. Occasionally they do go for a less expected show like Sunny Afternoon but that's a list to be pleased with.
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