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Post by daisy24601 on Apr 12, 2019 11:48:47 GMT
"turned around and said" A good friend in a conversation will add this continuously ... as in, "so I turned around and said - , and then he turned around and said - . So I turned around and said - ". In my head they were spinning around saying things to each other. Amusing (and then v. irritating) My dad often says this. I get this image of him starting to walk way then spinning back with some retort 😂
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Post by Deal J on Apr 12, 2019 11:52:07 GMT
I know it's more modern, and I'm incredibly old-fashioned, but I have to admit to not being a great fan of 'co-worker'. Along with all kinds of other things, some nicer than others, I hope I'm thought of as a colleague. I prefer "workplace proximity associate"
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Post by sf on Apr 12, 2019 13:03:01 GMT
My three hates, with a borderline fourth, all in one short sentence "So it was like really amazing." Like, totally.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 13:47:16 GMT
One I was reminded of today: using "quotes" for emphasis. It was something on the back of a van that brought it to mind: "Part of the ... group of companies". The quote marks are theirs, not mine. I assume they're not really suggesting that people go around saying those exact words, so what do they think the quotes are for?
And then there's the whole We sell "fresh" food sort of thing.
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Post by sparky5000 on Apr 12, 2019 13:48:23 GMT
Have noticed particularly amongst Americans a tendency to say that they *could* care less when they mean couldn't. Don't know why but it drives me insane. Late to this thread but OMG, when I lived in the States that drove me absolutely INSANE also. It literally makes no sense.
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Post by sparky5000 on Apr 12, 2019 13:50:00 GMT
My mum also always pulls me up on saying “I’m good thanks” when asked how I am, which I know is incorrect grammar but it’s also become ingrained in the English language now!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 13:51:40 GMT
My dad does that. He's also violently opposed to "train station", absolutely insists that only "railway station" will do.
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Post by Tibidabo on Apr 12, 2019 13:58:17 GMT
Along with all kinds of other things, some nicer than others, I hope I'm thought of as a colleague....no...no...sometimes it's just toooooo easy...😬😬😬😬😬
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Post by TallPaul on Apr 12, 2019 14:06:55 GMT
Along with all kinds of other things, some nicer than others, I hope I'm thought of as a colleague....no...no...sometimes it's just toooooo easy...😬😬😬😬😬 There are three types of people in the world. Those who are funny, those who are nice, and those who are neither! 🙂
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Post by liv22 on Apr 12, 2019 14:18:35 GMT
My mum also always pulls me up on saying “I’m good thanks” when asked how I am, which I know is incorrect grammar but it’s also become ingrained in the English language now! This reminds me of my mum who hates it when I answer a question with "I'm good thanks" instead of what I should say which is "no thank you". She always says "I didn't ask if you were good, I asked if you wanted more dessert" etc.
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Post by Backdrifter on Apr 12, 2019 16:52:23 GMT
One I was reminded of today: using "quotes" for emphasis. It was something on the back of a van that brought it to mind: "Part of the ... group of companies". The quote marks are theirs, not mine. I assume they're not really suggesting that people go around saying those exact words, so what do they think the quotes are for?
And then there's the whole We sell "fresh" food sort of thing.
I saw one on a restaurant awning. Under the restaurant name it said, using their quotes, "Italian Restaurant". To me, it makes it sound sarcastic and/or doubtful. It's as though someone is doing air quotes while saying, Oh yeah? "Italian restaurant" is it?
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Post by sparky5000 on Apr 12, 2019 16:55:18 GMT
My mum also always pulls me up on saying “I’m good thanks” when asked how I am, which I know is incorrect grammar but it’s also become ingrained in the English language now! This reminds me of my mum who hates it when I answer a question with "I'm good thanks" instead of what I should say which is "no thank you". She always says "I didn't ask if you were good, I asked if you wanted more dessert" etc. Oh I get pulled up for that too! 😄
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 17:18:52 GMT
My mum also always pulls me up on saying “I’m good thanks” when asked how I am, which I know is incorrect grammar but it’s also become ingrained in the English language now! Oh I say that all the time, in both contexts - I am freely hypocritical about my grammar pedantry in that respect as that phrase has just become a habit now!
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Post by Backdrifter on Apr 12, 2019 17:22:56 GMT
It's disgusting and it has to stop immediately! ...that's what a TheatreBoard user said about the way Midlands Tonight starts almost every news article.
The presenters rely on that style far too much, it's like spoken click-bait headlines and sounds horrible. I completely agree. It's not just on Midlands Tonight if that makes you feel any better! This is taking us away from the language gripes but that example reminds me of an infuriating thing that has sadly and annoyingly become embedded as standard practice in documentaries: the "trailer within the show". They all now without exception start with about 2 minutes of what we're about to see, before we see it. Always with a formulaic voice-over about how we're "going on a JOURNEY." Then you get the from-to's: "From Arctic tundra... to sultry rainforest. From vast deserts... to towering cities. From the highest mountains... to the deepest oceans." etc etc etc. And all in that stupid up-and-down presenter intonation. Next is "Still to come" followed by more stuff we'll sodding-well see in a few minutes anyway. And at the end, they do the whole "We've been on an amazing journey" so they can show us the stuff WE'VE ALREADY F***ING SEEN. To round it off, everything is presented as though they're talking to a playgroup. In a way it is a language thing as it all sounds like it's aimed at 5-year-olds. Factual programming has deteriorated badly in quality over the last 20 years or so. The recent one-off by Anthony Gormley about the origins of art was a rare instance of a genuinely interesting documentary that treats its audience as adults without the need for fluffy-wuffyness and whooshy graphics.
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Post by Backdrifter on Apr 12, 2019 17:41:32 GMT
So,my pet hate at the moment is sentences beginning with’so’...am hearing it all the time and grammatically it is soooo wrong.So there! My three hates, with a borderline fourth, all in one short sentence "So it was like really amazing." Yes to all the above. I do think of the "So..." thing as one I should try not to get irritated by but I can't help it. Of all the kinds of language gripes discussed in this thread, this is the one I find the least understandable. How and why did it start? Why does it persist? One of the only quiz shows I watch is Pointless and this quirk is very noticeable when contestants are asked their occupation - "So I'm an IT support officer" "So I'm a biochemistry student" I find it bizarre. It happens a fair bit on this board, which in a way is even stranger, that people not only say it, but write it too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 17:55:21 GMT
Oh! Some of these posts have reminded me of a TV related language gripe:
History documentaries in the PRESENT TENSE! Aaaargh!
"William's ships are really big and full of soldiers and because the weather's really good, they rush across the Channel really quickly. Harold's army are really tired, so William wins and and... "
ARGH.
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Post by Raven on Apr 12, 2019 18:04:47 GMT
The word "yous" *shudder* "Are yous coming to the cinema tonight?" Just NO.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 18:07:40 GMT
Factual programming has deteriorated badly in quality over the last 20 years or so. Going a little further off topic, I've almost completely given up on factual programming on TV and have switched over to YouTube, where many presenters get to the point and don't talk to the audience as if they're about to offer us a lollipop. The thing that's really started to bug me about TV is the way they'll get a host of world-renowned experts in some field and have a cumulative ten minutes of them staring moodily into the shadows while the camera swings round in slow motion or, as they're experts in some field or other, they'll be standing in an actual field as if they're making a low-budget advertisement for shampoo.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 18:22:32 GMT
Honestly, I think "so" is just the twenty-first century equivalent to "hwaet!". It's not the meaning that's important, it's just that it's a clear indicator that someone is about to speak and y'all should be listening.
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Post by Backdrifter on Apr 12, 2019 18:37:10 GMT
Honestly, I think "so" is just the twenty-first century equivalent to "hwaet!". It's not the meaning that's important, it's just that it's a clear indicator that someone is about to speak and y'all should be listening. 😂
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 18:52:50 GMT
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Post by peggs on Apr 12, 2019 22:29:05 GMT
My niece was starting every sentence with so the other week but it quickly became apparent that she was doing it more when I pointed it out as she thought it daring and amusing to annoy the adults so I quick shut up. I am aware that I say 'right' for no good reason as a start to a sentence when i'm trying to leave something and don't really know how to to.
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Post by missthelma on Apr 13, 2019 10:17:14 GMT
May I mention 'irregardless'? The use of which makes me want to tear my ears off and throw them in a fire. It sounds idiotic and also contradicts itself. People who say this must be punished.
I am also getting to the point where the now ubiquitous 'no problem' is grating so much on me I am not sure I will be able to maintain composure. I am guessing it is an outgrowth of 'no worries' and in some circumstances it's fine, but not when say you are asking to pay a bill, withdraw money or place an order. Or ordering food.
'I'd like a diet coke'
'No problem'
'And the super food salad'
'No problem'
'And some fries'
'No problem'
'I know it's not a problem, you are a restaurant serving food and drink and those items are on your menu. Please restrain me before I scream'
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Post by hulmeman on Apr 13, 2019 10:22:12 GMT
When I am on any mode of transport, I am a passenger, not a customer!
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Post by tonyloco on Apr 13, 2019 11:04:13 GMT
Going back to a topic discussed earlier in this thread, old Australians like me used the word 'good' to mean 'OK', 'noted' or 'understood' in both positive and negative situations. I don't know whether this usage continues nowadays, but it used to lead to some curious conversational exchanges, like:
Landlord: "I am increasing your rent from £500 per month to £800 per month." Tenant: "Good."
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