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Post by vdcni on Jun 8, 2017 20:18:35 GMT
If you all think You deserve less pay than an MP Well Then you need to rethink things So if we decide we should earn more we just magically will? Sounds good. The basic MP salary before expenses is under £80k. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 20:24:16 GMT
If you all think You deserve less pay than an MP Well Then you need to rethink things So if we decide we should earn more we just magically will? Sounds good. The basic MP salary before expenses is under £80k. See the expenses list And claims for second property They are not insubstantial People in this country are taught to look behind and below them Not above and in front I don't know why It's a form of control Most MPs also have multiple other sources of income |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 20:26:43 GMT
Less contentiously, it's been fun to watch the BBC trying to report on things when it's not allowed to cover the main story of the day. They had a bit of relief when they were able to follow James Comey's testimony but now they're reduced to "Voting enters its final hour", which is well into "It's nine o'clock and all's well boring" territory.
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Post by infofreako on Jun 8, 2017 20:35:42 GMT
Always fun on election day. They really need a big story to fill the day or they're stuck with dogs at polling stations
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 20:44:43 GMT
Always fun on election day. They really need a big story to fill the day or they're stuck with dogs at polling stations I enjoy the calm on election day. |
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 8, 2017 20:52:16 GMT
Less contentiously, it's been fun to watch the BBC trying to report on things when it's not allowed to cover the main story of the day. They had a bit of relief when they were able to follow James Comey's testimony but now they're reduced to "Voting enters its final hour", which is well into "It's nine o'clock and all's well boring" territory. From an American (me): Is that a rule similar to the election-related media blackout in France? |
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Post by infofreako on Jun 8, 2017 20:59:15 GMT
Less contentiously, it's been fun to watch the BBC trying to report on things when it's not allowed to cover the main story of the day. They had a bit of relief when they were able to follow James Comey's testimony but now they're reduced to "Voting enters its final hour", which is well into "It's nine o'clock and all's well boring" territory. From an American (me): Is that a rule similar to the election-related media blackout in France? Yes, from 0030 on polling day they can't comment on polls or the political parties chances or manifestos until the polls close |
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Post by vdcni on Jun 8, 2017 21:02:15 GMT
Exit poll suggests the Conservatives have lost seats.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 21:02:43 GMT
£80k, while certainly WAY more than I will ever earn, isn't actually all that high a salary, especially in London. You are still eligible for a shared ownership property there if you earn up to £80k (ie you are seen as someone who might still struggle to buy on the open market). Earning over £70k puts you in the top 5% of earners in the UK. £80k is indeed all that high a salary. In the UK. How about in London? |
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Post by infofreako on Jun 8, 2017 21:04:15 GMT
Interesting exit poll. If that turns out correct the Tory gamble has backfired massively
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 21:05:36 GMT
Exit poll suggests the Conservatives have lost seats. And also that they may not even manage to get a majority. I'd be surprised if that happens, because reality usually has a way of turning out less interesting than expected. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 21:06:20 GMT
If this exit poll is correct we are in chaotic waters. No natural majority, even with Northern Ireland parties, Brexit can't be negotiated without a definite position.
Exciting in a way.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 21:08:02 GMT
So, who's going to be the next leader of the Conservatives?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 21:11:11 GMT
If this exit poll is correct we are in chaotic waters. No natural majority, even with Northern Ireland parties, Brexit can't be negotiated without a definite position. Exciting in a way. h More mess for this country 😂😂 |
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 8, 2017 21:14:16 GMT
From an American (me): Is that a rule similar to the election-related media blackout in France? Yes, from 0030 on polling day they can't comment on polls or the political parties chances or manifestos until the polls close Thanks! Sometimes I wish we had that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 21:15:24 GMT
If, and a big if, this is correct, another election in Autumn? I wouldn't count against a Macron centrist figure emerging with a new grouping if that was the case.
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Post by sherriebythesea on Jun 8, 2017 21:23:47 GMT
Yes, from 0030 on polling day they can't comment on polls or the political parties chances or manifestos until the polls close Thanks! Sometimes I wish we had that. I ALWAYS wish we had that.Preferably starting 12 months before the next election.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 21:26:31 GMT
My area is forecast as too close to call, which surprises me as the Conservatives had a 14.7% lead two years ago.
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Post by theatremadness on Jun 8, 2017 21:32:52 GMT
What an unbelievable exit poll. I still have a feeling that the reality will be that Conservatives win by a small majority - which, for those who voted Labour, is a form of consolation and warning to the Tories (or, more specifically, Theresa May) that their confidence was unfounded and that their policies and personalities don't wash with a large percentage of people.
If there is a Hung Parliament or Conservative win by a small majority - far smaller than they ever thought they would when this election was announced - is the resignation of Theresa May even an actual real-life possibility?
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Post by infofreako on Jun 8, 2017 21:37:46 GMT
What an unbelievable exit poll. I still have a feeling that the reality will be that Conservatives win by a small majority - which, for those who voted Labour, is a form of consolation and warning to the Tories (or, more specifically, Theresa May) that their confidence was unfounded and that their policies and personalities don't wash with a large percentage of people. If there is a Hung Parliament or Conservative win by a small majority - far smaller than they ever thought they would when this election was announced - is the resignation of Theresa May even an actual real-life possibility? I think it is. Her position will certainly be untenable. |
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Post by Phantom of London on Jun 8, 2017 21:39:54 GMT
infofreako - very valid points. Especially on the importance of getting out a voting and social media. I'll watch one thing on the telly, and my computer (or, more precisely, those I follow who will probably share the same views I do) will tell me the exact opposite! And @parsley you also raise valid points. I can't deny that there are a proportion of my generation who may not vote tomorrow because they have selfishly not bothered or cared to do any of their own research. BUT. What about those of my generation who do aspire to own cars and homes, who do aspire to solve their own problems and who hate the need for others to bail them out, but all of these aspirations are made impossible by the greed of what seems to be a very small percentage of people who seem to have a lot of sway? What if all that those people with those aspirations want is actually just a fighting chance to make it on their own? You have to work like a bitch nowadays I am sorry to say- it's the only way to manage I worked 70 hour weeks for a decade Did night locums Worked every weekend on top of my normal job for 5 years Even now my average week is 60 hours I refuse to be be punished by a Labour government For having this work ethic For choosing to help myself Yet people think it's okay to stand in the street drinking beer at the first sign of warm weather And then wonder why they are renting for life C'mon Parsley, you are typical Tory, by what I mean someone who always puts themselves first. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 21:41:38 GMT
If there is a Hung Parliament or Conservative win by a small majority - far smaller than they ever thought they would when this election was announced - is the resignation of Theresa May even an actual real-life possibility? I can't see her stepping down, but if her gamble doesn't pay off then I can't see her being given much choice in the matter. There are reasons why restrictions were placed on when elections are called and Theresa May's decision to stomp all over those reasons in an attempt to strengthen her authority over parliament is not going to go down well, especially among MPs who thought they were safe for a couple more years but lose their seats tonight. On top of that, she's repeatedly claimed that her decisions are backed by a mandate from the country, but if the country has turned against her those claims look distinctly dubious. |
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Post by d'James on Jun 8, 2017 21:42:25 GMT
It'll be impossible to form a coalition with SNP if they want another independence referendum as one of their terms.
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Post by Dawnstar on Jun 8, 2017 21:44:08 GMT
I don't see the UK getting much sleep tonight!
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Post by Phantom of London on Jun 8, 2017 21:45:51 GMT
If there is a Hung Parliament or Conservative win by a small majority - far smaller than they ever thought they would when this election was announced - is the resignation of Theresa May even an actual real-life possibility? I can't see her stepping down, but if her gamble doesn't pay off then I can't see her being given much choice in the matter. There are reasons why restrictions were placed on when elections are called and Theresa May's decision to stomp all over those reasons in an attempt to strengthen her authority over parliament is not going to go down well, especially among MPs who thought they were safe for a couple more years but lose their seats tonight. On top of that, she's repeatedly claimed that her decisions are backed by a mandate from the country, but if the country has turned against her those claims look distinctly dubious. Really Saint Theresa not stepping down? She called an election because she had no mandate to lead the Brexit talks, this time next year. She be doing Q&A sessions with Ed Balls up and down the country in a theatre near you. just poured myself a nice big glass of red wine on my balcony in Greece. |
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