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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 17:57:34 GMT
Wow. Well that was out of order. I was only making a response to your comment, with my belief. If you thought I was being patronising then you couldn't be further from the truth. I apologise but I really don't see how you came to that conclusion. I even said "I guess" and "possibly", to make it clear that I was assuming. As I said. I apologise for offending you I'd much rather you message me privately if you thought that than publicly calling me out as being patronising when it's not the case.
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Post by infofreako on Jun 8, 2017 17:59:29 GMT
As I said. I apologise for offending you I'd much rather you message me privately if you thought that than publicly calling me out as being patronising when it's not the case. OK fair enough
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Post by infofreako on Jun 8, 2017 18:33:08 GMT
last poll, the IPSOS/MORI one goes with the general consensus of the day. Odds on Tory majority have bounced around throughout the day with Betfair but not enough in the other direction Have heard reports of queues at some polling stations today and quite a few young people in them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 18:45:53 GMT
£80k is an incomprehensibly high salary for the majority of people, and particularly the young. When the Conservatives are talking as though someone on that level of salary is hard-done-by for being taxed on the part of it that is already more than many people will earn in half a decade, it gives the thoroughly accurate impression that Conservatives simply have no idea what life is like for people who aren't rich. £80k, while certainly WAY more than I will ever earn, isn't actually all that high a salary, especially in London. You are still eligible for a shared ownership property there if you earn up to £80k (ie you are seen as someone who might still struggle to buy on the open market).
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Post by loureviews on Jun 8, 2017 19:27:26 GMT
80k is a huge salary even in London. I have staff who earn 18k. How are they supposed to manage?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 19:29:13 GMT
£80k is an incomprehensibly high salary for the majority of people, and particularly the young. When the Conservatives are talking as though someone on that level of salary is hard-done-by for being taxed on the part of it that is already more than many people will earn in half a decade, it gives the thoroughly accurate impression that Conservatives simply have no idea what life is like for people who aren't rich. £80k, while certainly WAY more than I will ever earn, isn't actually all that high a salary, especially in London. You are still eligible for a shared ownership property there if you earn up to £80k (ie you are seen as someone who might still struggle to buy on the open market). 80k seems like a lot Because most people have been told it is In reality MPs earn more than that A Chanel bag costs up to 10k And the average property price in London is over 500k Just because earnings are low Costs are still high If people put up with that And accept Then it's their own problem
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 19:29:57 GMT
80k is a huge salary even in London. I have staff who earn 18k. How are they supposed to manage? Move out of London Why are they even there? Society imposes these caps because people tolerate them If people refuse to accept that level of pay Wages will have to rise Or move somewhere else Where you can live within ones means On the salary you get
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 19:32:12 GMT
650k
Is average London property price
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Post by Dawnstar on Jun 8, 2017 19:32:22 GMT
I am surprised that the board poll has 21 people voting Conservative. I often feel on Twitter as if I am the only right-wing theatre fan in existance! I voted Conservative as usual today. I have always voted Conservative because I am deeply conservative (large & small "c" intentional) as a person. I don't vote based on parties' election manifestos because I don't trust any politicians to deliver on their manifesto promises. And I certainly don't vote Conservative because I am well off: I am a temp who has never earned even 20k a year (for those who would ask "how do you afford theatregoing then?" I still live at home so don't have to pay market rate rent or bills).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 19:33:24 GMT
I am surprised that the board poll has 21 people voting Conservative. I often feel on Twitter as if I am the only right-wing theatre fan in existance! I voted Conservative as usual today. I have always voted Conservative because I am deeply conservative (large & small "c" intentional) as a person. I don't vote based on parties' election manifestos because I don't trust any politicians to deliver on their manifesto promises. And I certainly don't vote Conservative because I am well off: I am a temp who has never earned even 20k a year (for those who would ask "how do you afford theatregoing then?" I still live at home so don't have to pay market rate rent or bills). Good om you!! I am thinking of asking parents to come and live with me in the next few years As they get older
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Post by Honoured Guest on Jun 8, 2017 19:35:11 GMT
If people put up with that And accept Then it's their own problem ...Which they may Alleviate By voting Labour
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 19:39:17 GMT
If people put up with that And accept Then it's their own problem ...Which they may Alleviate By voting Labour Their solution Is to rack up massive debts
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 19:45:40 GMT
If you all think
You deserve less pay than an MP
Well
Then you need to rethink things
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on Jun 8, 2017 20:16:31 GMT
£80k, while certainly WAY more than I will ever earn, isn't actually all that high a salary, especially in London. You are still eligible for a shared ownership property there if you earn up to £80k (ie you are seen as someone who might still struggle to buy on the open market). 80k seems like a lot ------ A Chanel bag costs up to 10k Okay, if not Trump then more like Marie Antoinette. This is just snob trolling.
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Post by vdcni on Jun 8, 2017 20:17:23 GMT
£80k is an incomprehensibly high salary for the majority of people, and particularly the young. When the Conservatives are talking as though someone on that level of salary is hard-done-by for being taxed on the part of it that is already more than many people will earn in half a decade, it gives the thoroughly accurate impression that Conservatives simply have no idea what life is like for people who aren't rich. £80k, while certainly WAY more than I will ever earn, isn't actually all that high a salary, especially in London. You are still eligible for a shared ownership property there if you earn up to £80k (ie you are seen as someone who might still struggle to buy on the open market). Earning over £70k puts you in the top 5% of earners in the UK. £80k is indeed all that high a salary.
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Post by vdcni on Jun 8, 2017 20:18:35 GMT
If you all think You deserve less pay than an MP Well Then you need to rethink things So if we decide we should earn more we just magically will? Sounds good. The basic MP salary before expenses is under £80k.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 20:24:16 GMT
If you all think You deserve less pay than an MP Well Then you need to rethink things So if we decide we should earn more we just magically will? Sounds good. The basic MP salary before expenses is under £80k. See the expenses list And claims for second property They are not insubstantial People in this country are taught to look behind and below them Not above and in front I don't know why It's a form of control Most MPs also have multiple other sources of income
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Post by The Matthew on Jun 8, 2017 20:26:43 GMT
Less contentiously, it's been fun to watch the BBC trying to report on things when it's not allowed to cover the main story of the day. They had a bit of relief when they were able to follow James Comey's testimony but now they're reduced to "Voting enters its final hour", which is well into "It's nine o'clock and all's well boring" territory.
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Post by infofreako on Jun 8, 2017 20:35:42 GMT
Always fun on election day. They really need a big story to fill the day or they're stuck with dogs at polling stations
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 20:44:43 GMT
Always fun on election day. They really need a big story to fill the day or they're stuck with dogs at polling stations I enjoy the calm on election day.
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 8, 2017 20:52:16 GMT
Less contentiously, it's been fun to watch the BBC trying to report on things when it's not allowed to cover the main story of the day. They had a bit of relief when they were able to follow James Comey's testimony but now they're reduced to "Voting enters its final hour", which is well into "It's nine o'clock and all's well boring" territory. From an American (me): Is that a rule similar to the election-related media blackout in France?
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Post by infofreako on Jun 8, 2017 20:59:15 GMT
Less contentiously, it's been fun to watch the BBC trying to report on things when it's not allowed to cover the main story of the day. They had a bit of relief when they were able to follow James Comey's testimony but now they're reduced to "Voting enters its final hour", which is well into "It's nine o'clock and all's well boring" territory. From an American (me): Is that a rule similar to the election-related media blackout in France? Yes, from 0030 on polling day they can't comment on polls or the political parties chances or manifestos until the polls close
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Post by vdcni on Jun 8, 2017 21:02:15 GMT
Exit poll suggests the Conservatives have lost seats.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 21:02:43 GMT
£80k, while certainly WAY more than I will ever earn, isn't actually all that high a salary, especially in London. You are still eligible for a shared ownership property there if you earn up to £80k (ie you are seen as someone who might still struggle to buy on the open market). Earning over £70k puts you in the top 5% of earners in the UK. £80k is indeed all that high a salary. In the UK. How about in London?
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Post by infofreako on Jun 8, 2017 21:04:15 GMT
Interesting exit poll. If that turns out correct the Tory gamble has backfired massively
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Post by The Matthew on Jun 8, 2017 21:05:36 GMT
Exit poll suggests the Conservatives have lost seats. And also that they may not even manage to get a majority. I'd be surprised if that happens, because reality usually has a way of turning out less interesting than expected.
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on Jun 8, 2017 21:06:20 GMT
If this exit poll is correct we are in chaotic waters. No natural majority, even with Northern Ireland parties, Brexit can't be negotiated without a definite position.
Exciting in a way.
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Post by The Matthew on Jun 8, 2017 21:08:02 GMT
So, who's going to be the next leader of the Conservatives?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 21:11:11 GMT
If this exit poll is correct we are in chaotic waters. No natural majority, even with Northern Ireland parties, Brexit can't be negotiated without a definite position. Exciting in a way. h More mess for this country 😂😂
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 8, 2017 21:14:16 GMT
From an American (me): Is that a rule similar to the election-related media blackout in France? Yes, from 0030 on polling day they can't comment on polls or the political parties chances or manifestos until the polls close Thanks! Sometimes I wish we had that.
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