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Post by partytentdown on May 23, 2016 14:52:19 GMT
It was nowhere near as sold out as other recent shows, sadly. I was still able to get tickets for the penultimate evening just a few days earlier, which was nowhere near possible with shows like Grey Gardens, Carrie, Xanadu etc.
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Post by firefingers on May 23, 2016 17:32:08 GMT
Given how fringe sell outs can often do badly in town, I don't think ticket sales are really a big factor on deciding a transfer. Take Urinetown. That sold massively well at the St James, but ended up losing £1.5 million at the Apollo and playing to as few as 12 people (or so I hear anyway). The thing that matters is if the show actually has mass appeal and can capture an audience. Toxic Avenger was barely marketed, with no names in the cast, by small producers with little money for promo (Carrie was bankrolled by Bill Kenwright, for example). I think, with the right marketing, Toxic Avenger has a far better chance of selling to a wider audience than Grey Gardens or Xanadu. I've always said that they way to make a success in the West End is to do something different, or at least different enough that you stand out from the competition. With it's dark but not depressing design, un-PC and occasionally meta humour, a rock score (something that has been absent in the West End for a while) and with superheroes being very much in vogue right now (the latest Marvel film has gone past the £30 million mark in the UK) I think it could easily be a hit, especially if they followed Avenue Q's example of cheeper tickets early in the run and for "young people" to build word of mouth and a cult following.
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Post by partytentdown on May 24, 2016 6:55:17 GMT
Given how fringe sell outs can often do badly in town, I don't think ticket sales are really a big factor on deciding a transfer. Take Urinetown. That sold massively well at the St James, but ended up losing £1.5 million at the Apollo and playing to as few as 12 people (or so I hear anyway). The thing that matters is if the show actually has mass appeal and can capture an audience. Toxic Avenger was barely marketed, with no names in the cast, by small producers with little money for promo (Carrie was bankrolled by Bill Kenwright, for example). I think, with the right marketing, Toxic Avenger has a far better chance of selling to a wider audience than Grey Gardens or Xanadu. I've always said that they way to make a success in the West End is to do something different, or at least different enough that you stand out from the competition. With it's dark but not depressing design, un-PC and occasionally meta humour, a rock score (something that has been absent in the West End for a while) and with superheroes being very much in vogue right now (the latest Marvel film has gone past the £30 million mark in the UK) I think it could easily be a hit, especially if they followed Avenue Q's example of cheeper tickets early in the run and for "young people" to build word of mouth and a cult following. I'd love you to be right! Wow, did Urinetown get that bad? I saw it towards the end and it was pretty empty but not THAT empty!
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 7:30:06 GMT
I really enjoyed this (glad I ditched my ticket for Ophelia's Zimmer at the Royal Court!)
Problem I see with a potential transfer is that a lot of the fun was the cheapness of it - eg all the jokes about doubling roles, filling in time while people did changes etc. Not sure that would come off in a bigger theatre with pricier tickets?
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Post by partytentdown on May 25, 2016 9:24:50 GMT
This morning they have tweeted:
'Toxic meetings today...'
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Post by firefingers on Aug 7, 2016 10:34:52 GMT
The show's Facebook page, which has been dormant for 3 months, has just put this up. "We are working really hard on bringing a bit of the green monster back to you soon...." m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1090516544369034&id=976917672395589I heard a rumour the other week that the show was near to confirming something for next year so both combined it looks like Toxie is coming back!
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Post by Michael on Aug 7, 2016 10:35:48 GMT
That'd be awesome. And then Xanadu please
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Post by talkstageytome on Aug 7, 2016 10:48:43 GMT
Oooh I do hope so! I never got around to seeing it.
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Post by partytentdown on Oct 11, 2016 9:48:48 GMT
Have it on good authority this is definitely coming back next year...
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Post by HereForTheatre on Oct 11, 2016 10:24:22 GMT
Oh excellent. I rather regret not seeing it during it's run.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Apr 20, 2017 9:30:59 GMT
Opening at The Arts Theatre in October
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Post by firefingers on Apr 20, 2017 9:37:00 GMT
Opening at The Arts Theatre in October Yep, after a run at Edinburgh Fringe too.
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Post by daniel on Apr 20, 2017 9:46:09 GMT
notmymuse wins the point! Saw the final performance of this tonight. Went because I loved the Motown music and this has the same writers. I loved it, as did the rest of the audience. Standing ovation and several bows. It was very tight indeed and great voices. I could make out most of the words too, which is rare at this volume. Wonderful cast, great voices. Looked a smaller budget than Grey Gardens had, but a lot more fun. Considering it was sold out and audience reaction, I think this deserves a life elsewhere. I could see a limited run at the Arts for example, or Trafalgar 2.
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Post by notmymuse on Apr 20, 2017 9:50:11 GMT
notmymuse wins the point! Saw the final performance of this tonight. Went because I loved the Motown music and this has the same writers. I loved it, as did the rest of the audience. Standing ovation and several bows. It was very tight indeed and great voices. I could make out most of the words too, which is rare at this volume. Wonderful cast, great voices. Looked a smaller budget than Grey Gardens had, but a lot more fun. Considering it was sold out and audience reaction, I think this deserves a life elsewhere. I could see a limited run at the Arts for example, or Trafalgar 2. Fame at last! I may contact the producers and ask for a free ticket for giving them the idea. That said, if you make wild, ungrounded and ill-informed predictions often enough, one of them is bound to come true sooner or later...
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Post by stevej678 on Apr 20, 2017 11:24:37 GMT
Fingers crossed the next words we hear about this show will be "Reprising her role as Sarah is Hannah Grover". Can't wait to see this in Edinburgh.
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Post by terrylondon79 on Apr 20, 2017 11:42:52 GMT
Cool news... show was great in Southwark playhouse.... but £60 full price.... pushing it a bit.... think I'll try to book a preview....
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Post by viserys on Apr 20, 2017 11:43:17 GMT
I thought the Arts Theatre was closing down for major refurbishment/redevelopment?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 11:51:51 GMT
I really fancied seeing this again, but as I already have, I cannot justify the ticket price
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Post by Someone in a tree on Apr 20, 2017 12:07:33 GMT
60 squid. They are having a laugh
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Post by JJShaw on Apr 20, 2017 12:31:44 GMT
I thoroughly enjoyed this so I'm very happy to have it back! I think the Arts is th perfect sized venue for a transfer, just a shame that it still seems to be in a success slump.
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Post by viserys on Apr 20, 2017 13:16:31 GMT
Aha, thanks, Monkey. It's a ratty venue but perhaps quite fitting for this show.
I missed this at Southwark and I feel meh about the CD (which I've had lying around for ages).
I doubt it will be selling well at these prices and I'm in town at the right time, so I'll look out for deals close to the date, then may take advantage of those Murder Ballad-style.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 14:39:40 GMT
At £60 a ticket, let's hope they can afford to pay their cast this time!!!!!
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Post by theatremadhatter on Apr 20, 2017 16:13:56 GMT
Loved this at Southwark but totally agree at £60 I'll wait for the discounts before paying another visit! I don't think it will sell out the same at that price. Have they announced any cast? Will Mark Anderson still be in it does anyone know? I was a big fan of his voice!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 17:37:07 GMT
Don't worry guys, once it begins, the Arts has a running theme of reducing prices or putting out half price offers so don't book yet.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 17:55:54 GMT
Of all the things that gets a transfer from Southwark, why this? Where's Grey Gardens, where's the amazing Carrie??
I left The Toxic Avenger at the interval.
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