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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 11:22:26 GMT
It's a dog whistle, the people who were waiting for it will have heard it all right. Blair is hardly the person to quote anyway, given that Iraq has been one of the greatest recruitment adverts for terrorists (.and, yes, Cameron with Libya etc.) I'm sorry, but it's really not. You are just using this to express your political viewpoint. If she had said something along the lines of "We must all fight back" then I would agree with you. This is a simple turn of phrase to show that Britain will not tolerate this Well that means you weren't already primed to hear it. It's only political in line with my disgust at politicians of all stripes lying about how much they can actually do (is there anyone who doesn't because I haven't heard one? Serious question). I suppose Blair and Cameron were good at rational short term responses, even if their long term strategies and decisions have been counter productive. |
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Post by zak97 on Jun 4, 2017 11:23:53 GMT
Why do so many who were nowhere near London last night insist on marking themselves as safe on Facebook? A lot of my university friends did so, even those not stilll in central. Personally, I think it was really useful as it is impossible to know who is in central/who is at home etc. Didn't come across any people using it for the sake of using it though. |
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Post by infofreako on Jun 4, 2017 11:33:19 GMT
Why do so many who were nowhere near London last night insist on marking themselves as safe on Facebook? A lot of my university friends did so, even those not stilll in central. Personally, I think it was really useful as it is impossible to know who is in central/who is at home etc. Didn't come across any people using it for the sake of using it though. I did. Some of my daughters friends who never go into London joking on their timeline about how funny it was to do it |
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Post by infofreako on Jun 4, 2017 11:34:51 GMT
Why do so many who were nowhere near London last night insist on marking themselves as safe on Facebook? Perhaps because they're known to be regular visitors to London and it's an easy way of letting friends who may not be aware of their exact movements know that they are, indeed, safe? It crossed my mind last night to do so, but I figured as I was actively tweeting, etc., it was unnecessary. Still had a couple of calls this morning from people checking up on me. So far from the case you wouldn't believe it. I understand people who are regularly in London. I wasn't having a dig at that. Sorry you feel I was |
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Post by hal9000 on Jun 4, 2017 11:41:42 GMT
And yet, these people are chanting lines with "Allah" right before the attack. It's all about religion because they think it's their identity. As long as these things are not separated, people stay world alienated. As long as state and church (law and religion) are not separated, a country stays a zoo. Funny then that not all of the terrorists in the USA are Muslim and the USA does separate church and state, but go on, keep sticking your head in the sand and ignoring facts that do not suit your obvious agenda. |
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Post by CG on the loose on Jun 4, 2017 11:45:39 GMT
Perhaps because they're known to be regular visitors to London and it's an easy way of letting friends who may not be aware of their exact movements know that they are, indeed, safe? It crossed my mind last night to do so, but I figured as I was actively tweeting, etc., it was unnecessary. Still had a couple of calls this morning from people checking up on me. So far from the case you wouldn't believe it. I understand people who are regularly in London. I wasn't having a dig at that. Sorry you feel I was I didn't think you were - was just offering a straightforward answer to the question  Sorry you saw people making light of the situation. |
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Post by Kim on Jun 4, 2017 11:56:21 GMT
I marked myself as safe because I was passing through London at the exact time, part of me felt like I shouldn't be doing it since I don't live there but at the same time it's the best way to let people who knew I'd have been there at the time know I was safe 😢 I only found out what had happened about 30 mins after and knowing just how close I was is frightening.
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Post by loureviews on Jun 4, 2017 12:14:33 GMT
Not in London at the moment but very scary to see the news about this just after midnight.
Hope everyone stays safe; we are back in the capital tomorrow afternoon.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 12:30:43 GMT
Looking at the safety feature on Facebook, it seems you can specifically request your friends check in, so if you think someone's doing it for no reason that you can see, odds are good they've got a friend or family member who set the ball rolling for them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 12:58:17 GMT
Why do so many who were nowhere near London last night insist on marking themselves as safe on Facebook? Perhaps because they're known to be regular visitors to London and it's an easy way of letting friends who may not be aware of their exact movements know that they are, indeed, safe? It crossed my mind last night to do so, but I figured as I was actively tweeting, etc., it was unnecessary. Still had a couple of calls this morning from people checking up on me. Yes- those of us who regularly travel to/around London often get asked 'just in case' especially if you're quiet on Social Media for whatever reason. I considered checking in with friends (who live in Cardiff) who I thought were there but wasn't sure but as they posted themselves I didn't need to. Ok so one or two might be using it for attention but if it puts one worried parent at ease, or helps someone figure out something has happened to someone else I'm alright with it. ETA or as above someone has asked so it enables it. |
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Post by Kim on Jun 4, 2017 13:20:24 GMT
Exactly. My dad text me randomly at just gone 2230 asking me where I was and this was before I'd heard anything so was confused, so when I got on Facebook and saw the safety feature I thought if anything it saved a lot of texts/phone calls from friends who knew I'd been there.
I see no problem in people outside of London who go regularly doing it, but you're always going to get show off kids doing it "for a laugh"
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Post by moelhywel on Jun 4, 2017 13:23:08 GMT
"Ok so one or two might be using it for attention but if it puts one worried parent at ease, or helps someone figure out something has happened to someone else I'm alright with it."
Yes, my son lives in London and checked in that he was safe, putting my mind at rest, even though I hadn't any real concerns that he would have been involved but it's always possible he could be somewhere where something like this happens. I think any parent who has children living in London is concerned when a terrorist attack happens there.
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Post by infofreako on Jun 4, 2017 14:07:21 GMT
Don't get me wrong though everyone already seems to. I think its a great feature and one that is really helpful to so many. I just don't like seeing people blatantly abusing it for a laugh. Its a minority for sure but one that I came across very quickly. Thankfully the vast majority are decent people
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 14:14:44 GMT
Of course infofreako it's totally uncalled for and childish for people to abuse it 'for a laugh' or because they're 'drama queens' and want some attention. Similarly people who try and make these things about themselves, when they in fact were 100s of miles away tucked up in bed or similar, just for a bit of attention. |
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Post by rockinrobin on Jun 4, 2017 15:35:10 GMT
Horrible. I was in London for the last few days - I had lunch at the Borough Market on my way to the Old Vic yesterday...
Stay strong, my beloved city. Warm hugs to all Londoners!
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Post by sherriebythesea on Jun 4, 2017 15:45:05 GMT
My biggest fears about my upcoming London vacation:
1. Right as my plane takes off, President (ugh) Trump will sign an Executive Order repealing the Laws of Physics and the plane will crash. Not that I think he has that much power but the coincidence will be too much for Fate to ignore
2. I will disgrace myself on London Eye. Spend entire rotation sitting in middle with eyes covered saying "tell me when it's over"
3. That my seat to Angels in America really are as bad as they look
4. That I will fall in love with the city and her residents and never want to leave
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 15:49:53 GMT
BRILLIANT sherriebytheseare: London eye, if it helps I loathe heights and things that move in a circular motion and I survived! I even enjoyed it! |
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Post by d'James on Jun 4, 2017 16:17:01 GMT
I just found out that my cousin got stuck at her work last night. (She never works Saturdays.) Luckily she's fine but it's got me worried about other people now that I wouldn't necessarily expect to be in the area. Guess there's no point thinking like that until you hear anything.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 16:25:18 GMT
BRILLIANT sherriebythesea re: London eye, if it helps I loathe heights and things that move in a circular motion and I survived! I even enjoyed it! Add me to the dislike of heights, I've racked up refusals to go on the London Eye, Eiffel Tower, Sears Tower in Chicago etc. etc.. I'm also not keen on bridges, partly because over a decade ago I was attacked on Hungerford Bridge by what appeared to be a drugged up group of young men rampaging across from the Waterloo end (I was going to the station). So events like last night hit home. Luckily it was only fists but I was close to losing the sight in one eye. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 4, 2017 17:36:24 GMT
I can't do heights either. I'm the one standing waaaay back from the edge holding people's bags on top of the Empire State or RockerfeIler building. I have to really give myself a talking to if I'm going down a very steep escalator on the tube. And there's an escalator at Milan Airport that's suspended in mid-air, no walls on either side, which is absolutely terrifying.
And it's getting worse. I was watching Disney's Hunchback recently and the aerial scenes made my stomach go over 🤢
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Post by indis on Jun 4, 2017 17:38:43 GMT
And it's getting worse. I was watching Disney's Hunchback recently and the aerial scenes made my stomach go over 🤢 then you better not watch TArzan with all the jumping and flying through the theater  |
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Post by alece10 on Jun 4, 2017 21:44:11 GMT
This attack felt a bit too close to home for me. I walk through the location of the police raids in Barking every morning on my way to work and volunteer in the street where the attack happened last night so could have easily been in either place.
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Post by infofreako on Jun 7, 2017 10:24:46 GMT
Sadly the death toll has risen to 8 after a body was pulled from the Thames this morning
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Post by Phantom of London on Jun 7, 2017 12:56:18 GMT
Religion has a lot to answer for. Meanwhile Religion does what it does best - presents the problem, but never the answer. |
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Sorry you saw people making light of the situation.
