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Post by callum on Jan 29, 2018 2:08:23 GMT
Would love to see Marylouise Burke get some recognition for JOHN as well - thought she was remarkable. I would say she is just on the borderline of going for either lead or supporting actress. Lead does seem stacked (Imelda, Denise, maybe Stockard), and supporting a bit thinner so she might do well there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 8:47:22 GMT
I'd love the musical leading lady to go to Josie Walker (and I didn't even see her- I saw the understudy!!) And I also agree Imelda is more likely to get it for Woolf than Follies. No doubt setting myself up for trouble but I don't think the Hamilton ladies parts (as written, not their fault) are up there with what any of the 3 Follies ladies likely to be nominated, or Josie Walker, do in their roles. But of course it is sinful to have anything less than rapture when it comes to Hamilton so....
By the way dears, we may be London (or provincial) hicks but we all know that Tony awards are for the Broadway shows not off-Broadway. But thanks for explaining that one. Also some of us just are too lazy to google opening nights to check eligibility...
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Post by viserys on Jan 29, 2018 9:07:14 GMT
Having seen "Jamie" this weekend and Josie Walker, I'm all for her winning the musical Olivier over the Follies or Hamilton leads. I would agree that for Hamilton it's mostly how the parts are written, especially bland Eliza. Angelica is the showier part but Rachel John didn't stand out for me at all, unlike Renee Elise Goldsberry on Broadway. As for Follies, I've voiced my dislike for the show's leading females before (the characters, NOT the actresses!), so I'd be luke-warm about either of them winning over Josie Walker, but then I've been frequently disappointed by the Oliviers before.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 9:18:00 GMT
"Frequently disappointed by the Oliviers" could be an autobiography title haha!
But while I'm being unpopular- frankly Janie Dee sang and acted circles around Queen Imedla IMHO so again I'd be most disappointed (but not surprised) to see her lose out. And as pointed out above, the men of Follies don't get nearly the attention they deserve. And it's a rare thing I'll say men aren't getting the attention they deserve....
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Post by nialld on Feb 10, 2018 16:48:00 GMT
Hope Lesley Manville gets a Best Actress nomination for Long Day's Journey - think she's in with a chance after the momentum from her Oscar nomination!
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Post by callum on Feb 11, 2018 16:17:28 GMT
Hope Lesley Manville gets a Best Actress nomination for Long Day's Journey - think she's in with a chance after the momentum from her Oscar nomination! I agree - she was fabulous. But it might come down to the fact that she's only in a four-star production (as good as it is), while WAOVW and Angels were five-star shows (I thought). |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2018 9:59:22 GMT
Nominations announced Tue 6th March
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Post by theatrescribe on Feb 25, 2018 0:08:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 9:25:15 GMT
The only affiliate theatre where I've seen all the eligible productions is the Unicorn. I fear that says more about me than anything else. I also fear that so many of the really brilliant and beautiful new plays in the eligibility list are going to end up completely overshadowed by the bigger plays that have occupied so much more of the headlines.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 9:50:05 GMT
Interesting that the globe is eligible this year, I don't think it has been previously. And also I feel like some of the shows are in the wrong catergories.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Feb 25, 2018 9:57:07 GMT
I'm glad they're not indulging Girl from the North Country with that play with music nonsense.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 9:58:08 GMT
Roger Allam won best actor for his Globe-based Falstaff in 2011, so it's been eligible for years, it just doesn't often get a look in for one reason or another.
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Post by theatremadness on Feb 25, 2018 11:13:24 GMT
Interesting that Five Guys Named Moe comes under 'Entertainment & Family' and not 'Musical Revival. I mean, it has a book, music & lyrics (albeit with a paper-thin plot), it's a musical, no?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 11:22:48 GMT
It's interesting that Labour of Love is judged to be a comedy and in a separate category to most plays, instead being compared with Mischief Movie Night which changes every night.
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Post by crowblack on Feb 25, 2018 11:35:19 GMT
overshadowed by the bigger plays that have occupied so much more of the headlines. Not a new play, but my favourite female performance in that list was Erin Doherty's tour de force in My Name is Rachel Corrie in one of the Young Vic's studios. It was only a short run, too, but Billington raved about it and her - he named her as his newcomer of the year in his round-up. |
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Post by Dawnstar on Feb 25, 2018 13:52:06 GMT
I'm rather surprised to see Mischief Movie Night in the New Comedy category. I would have rather expected it to be in the Entertainment category, like Showstopper was when it became the first improv show to win an Olivier. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 17:10:22 GMT
So glad to see La Strada is on the list, as I didn't think The Other Palace (or St James before) was an eligible venue. And glad Tommy at Stratford East is on there for Affiliate Theatre.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 17:19:38 GMT
Interesting that Five Guys Named Moe comes under 'Entertainment & Family' and not 'Musical Revival. I mean, it has a book, music & lyrics (albeit with a paper-thin plot), it's a musical, no? I also found it odd that Pinocchio is in play but should be in family or entertainment and The Miser is in new play but is a revival. Also so am personally a bit annoyed Mary Stuart won't be eligible as Lia and Juliet should have both been nominated for there performances but it was technically up for last years awards. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 23:09:41 GMT
Also just looked again and see that the Bridge Theatre is not elegible which seems a bit odd as other threats like the Almeida and Hampstead are and as well I feel Julius Caesar is very deserving of a few noms especially revival, maybe I'm just being a bit picky this year.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 23:32:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 1:50:53 GMT
The WOS awards appear to have been met with an embarrassing silence. To be even less relevant and relective of quality than the Evening Standard awards takes some doing!
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Post by mrbarnaby on Feb 26, 2018 9:12:41 GMT
The WOS awards appear to have been met with an embarrassing silence. To be even less relevant and relective of quality than the Evening Standard awards takes some doing! Well they are an embarrassment so it’s hardly surprising. Should be renamed ‘Famous people win Theatre awards they don’t deserve Awards’ |
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Post by rockinrobin on Feb 26, 2018 9:23:19 GMT
I agree. WOS awards are a travesty. David Tennant for "Don Juan in Soho"? Really?...
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Post by crowblack on Feb 26, 2018 10:42:34 GMT
Most of my friends aren't from middle-class, theatregoing backgrounds. Judging by my social media, they rarely go to the theatre, apart from those times when there's someone they love from TV: Don Juan in Soho was one of those plays. I doubt it was one of the performances of the year (though I didn't see it), but it got people I know who don't normally go to theatres down to London and into a theatre, so deserves a pat on the back for that. I thought Colman was great in Mosquitoes, and the hype around The Ferryman also got friends who don't go to the theatre into the theatre - ditto the Harry Potter Play and 'Jamie'. So, is it really so bad? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 10:46:19 GMT
It's dishonest for the WhatsOnStage awards to pretend they are awards on a par with other awards that are decided by a panel who (theoretically) see every show so are (theoretically) able to give a thorough and rounded look at things. If they were more upfront about the fact they are a public-decided popularity contest, I'd mind less.
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