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Post by d'James on Jun 10, 2016 20:59:03 GMT
It's not like that at all. Considering she was given this job back in November as the understudy to Sheridan Smith, who people are paying to see, she probably didn't think she'd get a weeks worth of shows on as Fanny. Back in November, very few people would of known who Natasha Barnes is. Considering, by the time Sheridan is back, she's going to of had around 2 months of playing the lead role in a West End musical; not to mention being very well known now, I think she'll be pretty grateful. She knows that she was only covering for Sheridan and that Sheridan is always first priority to play Fanny, it's not a thing done with bad feelings People are paying to see the show. I know you really want to see Sheridan and you're not going to agree with me, but at the end of the day it is the show that people pay for. I think it has been a great chance for Natasha and it will have done some great things for her career. I just think that she is now more than an understudy and it's a little bit of a shame that the second Sheridan comes back, Natasha goes back into the ensemble. Please not this discussion again. The whole board will never agree. (For the record I think the same as George - if a 'name' hadn't been involved. I don't believe this show would be at the Savoy now. Some shows' names sell themselves, I don't think this one would have.) |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jun 10, 2016 21:20:01 GMT
sorry but I still think she won't ever be back.
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Post by Steve on Jun 10, 2016 22:07:56 GMT
I think the producers have handled this right, both from their own financial perspective (promoting the understudy as someone worth seeing), and in the way they have treated Sheridan Smith (not hiring a star replacement, leaving the door open for Smith to return, and making it clear that they wish for that to happen).
Having only seen the show at the Menier, I loved both actresses, though it was Sheridan Smith's star quality that lifted the show to a 5 star level for me, her comedic instincts and ability to relate to an audience as sharp as Fanny Brice's once were.
I really hope Sheridan Smith is able to recover from her suffering, and I wish her the best.
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Post by wickedgrin on Jun 10, 2016 22:47:29 GMT
Mmmmmm.....we'll see.
As I said the producers had to make some sort of announcement at the end of Sheridans 2-4 week absence.
But 11th July is yet ANOTHER month off - in fact 5 weeks!
So we can expect another announcement then...........
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Post by Seriously on Jun 10, 2016 23:11:08 GMT
I think it's great that they can put a date on curing mental issues.
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Post by d'James on Jun 10, 2016 23:15:37 GMT
I think it's great that they can put a date on curing mental issues. This is my worry. As I said above, she must be well on the way to 'recovery' for them to dare to suggest a date. |
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Post by Seriously on Jun 10, 2016 23:19:15 GMT
I'm sure they'll throw a great drinks do on her return. Are the cast tweeting their excitement that she's coming back?
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Post by couldileaveyou on Jun 10, 2016 23:20:03 GMT
I think it's great that you all can diagnose mental illness without even meeting the person, you can bring psychiatry to a new level.
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Post by infofreako on Jun 10, 2016 23:23:26 GMT
It seems a bold move to attach a firm date for the return. Doesnt leave them much room for manouevre if anything doesnt go to plan
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Post by Seriously on Jun 10, 2016 23:25:25 GMT
I think it's great that you all can diagnose mental illness without even meeting the person, you can bring psychiatry to a new level. Actually, you're the one diagnosing mental illness. I'm diagnosing a large glass of "technical difficulties". |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 23:36:05 GMT
I think it's great that you all can diagnose mental illness without even meeting the person, you can bring psychiatry to a new level. It doesn't take a genius to work out it's highly likely given the information that's out there. But go on, continue to display an utter lack of compassion for others, that's your prerogative. |
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Post by ncbears on Jun 11, 2016 3:37:25 GMT
So, a few days ago, the Savoy Theatre starts promoting Ms. Barnes as Fanny leading to speculation on these message boards that Ms. Smith was not returning. Is the announcement of a Smith return right after the promotion of Ms. Barnes just a coincidence?
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Post by infofreako on Jun 11, 2016 3:39:10 GMT
Thats the thing im struggling to grasp. Much of the speculation in the last few days is of their own making
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2016 5:39:04 GMT
Am glad an announcement has been made. But so what if it is 5 weeks away? They said at the latest so she could be back sooner and, as many people have said, you can't rush recovery from mental health issues. If it was a physical issue, I am sure alot of people would be more on the sideof Sheridan but just because you can't see it doesn't mean it is not prevelant in her life. If you break a leg, you have to take a certain amount of weeks to heal,the same goes for mental health. It seriously upsets me that we still live in an age where mental health issues are not taken seriously.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2016 6:53:16 GMT
I totally agree with Daniel on this. Most of us can imagine to a degree what a dark place you are in if you are suffering with cancer. People suffering from mental issues are in dark places too - sometimes even darker. I just hope Ms. Smith is getting better little by little and that she will find her place in the spotlight again soon.
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Post by brenth on Jun 11, 2016 7:47:10 GMT
How gracious of her to come back after having missed 2 months in a six months run. I'm sorry this is a very unpleasant and unfeeling statement about a vulnerable young woman. This sort of trolling should not be part of this forum. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2016 8:21:22 GMT
I've been SO irritated with George's constant questioning about when we think Sheridan might be back, but now that we've had the statement, you know, I am genuinely delighted for him.  There's an awful lot of water yet to pass by the Savoy under those bridges, so I'm going to hold fire before I go hanging up any bunting... The producers had to say something at some point, didn't they? It couldn't go on for ever like this. But what else can they do but remain optimistic, and issue another statement with another date? It does sound rather more definite than I'd expected, and you wonder if this is wise. I dare they they will have been advised by all sorts of experts on the matter, so for the time being it's business as usual. I'm pleased that george (and others) have got some nugget of news at last. So frustrating for her fans... (I am one of the lucky ones who caught her in before her exit.) (Apparently the Savoy is doing a special promotion for the next five weeks: a complimentary glass of champagne with their Wait'n'See Afternoon Tea served in the Thames Foyer.) |
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Post by couldileaveyou on Jun 11, 2016 8:28:59 GMT
I think it's great that you all can diagnose mental illness without even meeting the person, you can bring psychiatry to a new level. I'd like to specify that I'm not dismissing mental illness, I'm saying that it's not up to you to diagnose it in other people and blog it around as if it were a solid fact. Not because there's something shameful in it, but because it's just an assumption. |
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Post by Jonnyboy on Jun 11, 2016 8:30:36 GMT
And at the same time, it's best not to be unpleasant about people when it *could* be mental illness.
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Post by kathryn on Jun 11, 2016 8:53:53 GMT
Stress and exhaustion is a form of mental illness, this is what we were told that it was, we're not making assumptions about it.
It does cause physical symptoms, because body and mind are connected.
It is treated by rest, initially, and then providing stress management mechanisms and coping strategies. You can put a timeline on people being well enough to start returning to work, once they've reached a certain point - doctors do it all the time.
Hasn't anyone else ever had colleagues signed off work due to stress?
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Post by shady23 on Jun 11, 2016 9:06:14 GMT
So, a few days ago, the Savoy Theatre starts promoting Ms. Barnes as Fanny leading to speculation on these message boards that Ms. Smith was not returning. Is the announcement of a Smith return right after the promotion of Ms. Barnes just a coincidence? They had to come out and say something after the papers have said she is not coming back. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 11, 2016 9:33:46 GMT
I think it's great that you all can diagnose mental illness without even meeting the person, you can bring psychiatry to a new level. I'd like to specify that I'm not dismissing mental illness, I'm saying that it's not up to you to diagnose it in other people and blog it around as if it were a solid fact. Not because there's something shameful in it, but because it's just an assumption. I have some sympathy with this. Yes, we know stress is a mental illness but with the way some are talking gravely and in hushed tones about "Sheridan's mental health"we seem to have taken a huge leap to an assumed severe and debilitating illness. Unless I've missed something there's been nothing to indicate that, and it could be argued that the people who are implying it aren't really doing her any favours. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2016 10:16:40 GMT
Isn't it all a little bit icky that we're discussing whether Sheridan Smith has mental health issues or not and how serious or not they may be if indeed she is living with said issues?
She's off. They've made a statement. She's due back. Whether she does or not is still to come. Aren't we all just a touch bored of speculating about her current state of mind now?
It's rather hard to deal with mental health issues at the best of times and not everyone is as brave or eloquent as someone like Ruby Wax for example. If indeed Sheridan does have issues, shouldn't we all just stop now and take a breath, show her some decency and allow her to try to deal with whatever she's dealing with in some kind of privacy?
So. Back to the show. Is the travelator still working?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 11, 2016 10:38:10 GMT
And has lovely Darius had a day off yet?
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Post by Oleanna on Jun 11, 2016 10:54:06 GMT
Like a broken record, this thread!
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