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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 18:12:32 GMT
Sad that mental health in whatever form it takes is not taken as seriously as physical illness. I also can't help but wonder whether reactions would've been more sympathetic if it wasn't a woman but a man. I wouldn't worry too much about Natasha. She's a professional and knows that her duties were to be an occasional understudy and eventually a stand-in. In fact, this opportunity could have been the best thing to happen to her career, and it'll definitely give her a boost whether Sheridan comes back or not. Personally, I think the producers should change the arrangement slightly and have Natasha upgraded to standby and perhaps get two scheduled performances each week. Clearly this has burned out Sheridan, and I think giving her two days off would be a bit more sustainable until October. This is the perfect suggestion!
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Post by emilyrose on Jun 10, 2016 18:18:51 GMT
Sad that mental health in whatever form it takes is not taken as seriously as physical illness. There has been no official line, sometimes people do throw mental health out there for anything and it isn't always MH related. Having been a sufferer myself, I don't really understand this announcement, as you just cannot say 'I am going to be well enough on July 11th' if you haven't been well enough for this amount of time.
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Post by horton on Jun 10, 2016 18:19:09 GMT
Natasha is not an understudy at the moment she is a replacement and should be billed as such. False advertizing.
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Post by Jonnyboy on Jun 10, 2016 18:28:53 GMT
Sad that mental health in whatever form it takes is not taken as seriously as physical illness. There has been no official line, sometimes people do throw mental health out there for anything and it isn't always MH related. Having been a sufferer myself, I don't really understand this announcement, as you just cannot say 'I am going to be well enough on July 11th' if you haven't been well enough for this amount of time. The announcement said no later than that date so it's still suitably vague. And technically, if someone throws mental health out there then that in itself is some sort of mental issue. None of us know what's been going on behind the scenes so it seems grossly unfair to be derogatory to someone in Sheridan's position without knowing the truth. (Not you, Emily - I'm talking generally.)
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Post by welsh_tenor on Jun 10, 2016 18:35:37 GMT
I feel sorry for Natasha, it must be a real shame for her to have all this time playing the role and then as soon as Sheridan comes back it'll be "Sorry, SHE'S back now, so we don't need you." I understand that Natasha knew it would only be a few weeks, but it must be a little annoying. Surely this happens fairly regularly and similar with the Willemijn/Emma/Kerry swap over in Wicked. Willemijn gets taken out with a bad back and needs to leave early, fans are gutted who had booked to see "ultimate international Elphie" and have to make do with the s/b... S/b goes on fairly regularly including all matinees, big announcement that Kerry is coming back to pacify the crowds who expect a 'name' but the producers have Emma to "fill in" for the three weeks before Queen Kerry arrives. Must have been a kicker at the time "show can't go on without you but you're not big enough to carry it yet?!" Surely comes with the territory of being s/b?! Emma came out of that fine though and eventually took the broom!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 18:41:44 GMT
How gracious of her to come back after having missed 2 months in a six months run. I am astonished that anyone could be capable of such a lack of compassion as to post something like this. You (rightly) have no idea what state Sheridan's health has been in during her absence, so who are you to judge? As someone who's suffered from mental illness in the past, there are so many posts in this thread that both sadden and infuriate me. They don't surprise me though, and that's the real problem.
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Post by Jonnyboy on Jun 10, 2016 18:46:42 GMT
Without wanting this thread to become a discussion about mental health, people tend not to understand that there is an infinite number of degrees of mental illness and no-one can really (or has the right to) state what is going on in another person's mind.
It's encouraging that SS is on the mend, though, and perhaps the date was just chosen to emphasise that SS *is* returning. Perhaps they thought that if a date wasn't mentioned, they'd be seen as fobbing everyone off. It may or may not be an accurate date. As Emilyrose says, it's hard to state when you'll be well enough after something like this, but maybe they felt obliged to state a date when it's *likely* she'll be back.
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Post by littlefluffychick on Jun 10, 2016 18:51:32 GMT
Well said poster J. People wouldn't dream of making comments like this in any other context - I.e. about someone who is missing form the office due to illness rather than the stage. Shame on all the haters and get well soon Sheridan. It rightly takes time to get back to full strength and confidence after a burn out. Sheridan is so talented - she needs to look after herself so we can enjoy many more performances from her in the future.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 18:58:22 GMT
ARGHHHHHHHHH!!!! I READ THIS ABOUT HALF AN HOUR AGO!! I AM SO HAPPY!
This has been the best news all week. I'm so glad we know now when she'll be back!!! It means we can organise our visit around her now.
Wooo!!
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Post by d'James on Jun 10, 2016 19:27:29 GMT
She must be pretty well on the mend for them to make this announcement, otherwise giving 'before this date' announcement is a massive risk.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 19:34:59 GMT
I feel sorry for Natasha, it must be a real shame for her to have all this time playing the role and then as soon as Sheridan comes back it'll be "Sorry, SHE'S back now, so we don't need you." I understand that Natasha knew it would only be a few weeks, but it must be a little annoying. It's not like that at all. Considering she was given this job back in November as the understudy to Sheridan Smith, who people are paying to see, she probably didn't think she'd get a weeks worth of shows on as Fanny. Back in November, very few people would of known who Natasha Barnes is. Considering, by the time Sheridan is back, she's going to of had around 2 months of playing the lead role in a West End musical; not to mention being very well known now, I think she'll be pretty grateful. She knows that she was only covering for Sheridan and that Sheridan is always first priority to play Fanny, it's not a thing done with bad feelings
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Post by londonmzfitz on Jun 10, 2016 19:41:24 GMT
Sulks. I have a ticket for 2 July, which was the last performance before it got extended at The Savoy. I've seen Natasha (last performance at The Menier). I don't really want to see her again. Pouts.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 20:08:23 GMT
Sulks. I have a ticket for 2 July, which was the last performance before it got extended at The Savoy. I've seen Natasha (last performance at The Menier). I don't really want to see her again. Pouts. Exchange them for a later date! That's what we're doing! If you can't, Sheridan could be back by then?
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Post by Sue on Jun 10, 2016 20:08:49 GMT
I'm looking into my crystal ball and I anticipate george22 will soon start posting the following... So guys, what day dya think she'll be back? !!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 20:09:31 GMT
Also, all that news about Samantha Spiro taking over was such a lie! Where did he get that from?!
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Post by Raven on Jun 10, 2016 20:10:07 GMT
I agree with George; I think this has all gone in Natasha's favour and it's given her career a boost. She's done a brilliant job at showing what she's capable of and her potential so I'm sure her stepping up and taking the lead role full time for a couple of months will be of some benefit. She's being recognised and no doubt people will now remember her name for her time in Funny Girl.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 20:10:28 GMT
I'm looking into my crystal ball and I anticipate george22 will soon start posting the following... So guys, what day dya think she'll be back? ? !! Consdiering I now know when she'll be back by, I think your crystal ball would be wrong. Let me just be happy she's returning
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Post by Sue on Jun 10, 2016 20:13:27 GMT
I'll be happy if you're happy!
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Jun 10, 2016 20:28:27 GMT
I feel sorry for Natasha, it must be a real shame for her to have all this time playing the role and then as soon as Sheridan comes back it'll be "Sorry, SHE'S back now, so we don't need you." I understand that Natasha knew it would only be a few weeks, but it must be a little annoying. It's not like that at all. Considering she was given this job back in November as the understudy to Sheridan Smith, who people are paying to see, she probably didn't think she'd get a weeks worth of shows on as Fanny. Back in November, very few people would of known who Natasha Barnes is. Considering, by the time Sheridan is back, she's going to of had around 2 months of playing the lead role in a West End musical; not to mention being very well known now, I think she'll be pretty grateful. She knows that she was only covering for Sheridan and that Sheridan is always first priority to play Fanny, it's not a thing done with bad feelings People are paying to see the show. I know you really want to see Sheridan and you're not going to agree with me, but at the end of the day it is the show that people pay for. I think it has been a great chance for Natasha and it will have done some great things for her career. I just think that she is now more than an understudy and it's a little bit of a shame that the second Sheridan comes back, Natasha goes back into the ensemble.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 20:32:37 GMT
I've been SO irritated with George's constant questioning about when we think Sheridan might be back, but now that we've had the statement, you know, I am genuinely delighted for him.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 20:33:18 GMT
It's not like that at all. Considering she was given this job back in November as the understudy to Sheridan Smith, who people are paying to see, she probably didn't think she'd get a weeks worth of shows on as Fanny. Back in November, very few people would of known who Natasha Barnes is. Considering, by the time Sheridan is back, she's going to of had around 2 months of playing the lead role in a West End musical; not to mention being very well known now, I think she'll be pretty grateful. She knows that she was only covering for Sheridan and that Sheridan is always first priority to play Fanny, it's not a thing done with bad feelings People are paying to see the show. I know you really want to see Sheridan and you're not going to agree with me, but at the end of the day it is the show that people pay for. I think it has been a great chance for Natasha and it will have done some great things for her career. I just think that she is now more than an understudy and it's a little bit of a shame that the second Sheridan comes back, Natasha goes back into the ensemble. There are some people who pay to see Sheridan return to the stage. I highly doubt that the whole Menier show and the majority of the Savoy run would've sold out if Sheridan (or anyone famous) was in the show. Stars do help shows. Natasha has a names part in Funny Girl so it's not the ensemble. Also, when she auditioned, she knew she was auditioning as cover so I doubt she's annoyed that after 2 months of playing the role and becoming fairly well known now, that she would be annoyed.... What do you want, Sheridan to be in the ensemble instead? The show is marketed around her!
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Post by Jon on Jun 10, 2016 20:34:59 GMT
I've been SO irritated with George's constant questioning about when we think Sheridan might be back, but now that we've had the statement, you know, I am genuinely delighted for him. Least the questions will stop now...
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Jun 10, 2016 20:39:21 GMT
People are paying to see the show. I know you really want to see Sheridan and you're not going to agree with me, but at the end of the day it is the show that people pay for. I think it has been a great chance for Natasha and it will have done some great things for her career. I just think that she is now more than an understudy and it's a little bit of a shame that the second Sheridan comes back, Natasha goes back into the ensemble. There are some people who pay to see Sheridan return to the stage. I highly doubt that the whole Menier show and the majority of the Savoy run would've sold out if Sheridan (or anyone famous) was in the show. Stars do help shows. Natasha has a names part in Funny Girl so it's not the ensemble. Also, when she auditioned, she knew she was auditioning as cover so I doubt she's annoyed that after 2 months of playing the role and becoming fairly well known now, that she would be annoyed.... What do you want, Sheridan to be in the ensemble instead? The show is marketed around her! George, I know your going to defend Sheridan after everything I say (I'm not against her, I actually really think she is a stunning actress too and I am glad she is putting her health first, I'm just stating my stance on Natasha being an understudy), so I think it's best we just agree to disagree.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 20:39:23 GMT
I've been SO irritated with George's constant questioning about when we think Sheridan might be back, but now that we've had the statement, you know, I am genuinely delighted for him. Thank you!! I'm so happy! Best news all week!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 20:47:53 GMT
It's going to be a sad day when this production closes, this thread has been so active and entertaining. Its a shame that Sheridans misfortune has been our constant source of conversation but I do think it's great how passionate everyone is about the Westend and theatre, I do love reading this board! (I also love how supportive of Sheridan this thread has been) Just my 2 cence for the day
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