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Post by Phantom of London on May 10, 2016 15:24:29 GMT
It's almost got to a point where I think she should just step away. It's clearly not the right time for her to be doing this. "Dear Lea Michele…" Oh I don't know A month off A Crash diet Chin lift Some English lessons Some signing lessons And a personality transplant She'd be amazing Who is Beyonce? |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 15:25:38 GMT
If it were any other actress who was off sick, no one would bat an eyelid, not even some on here. Just because it is Sheridan, everyone wants to jump on the bandwagon and basically bully her. I don't think anyone is 'bullying'* her. She obviously sees it that way, but that doesn't mean she's being 'bullied'. As far as I can see, nothing has been said over the past couple of days that hasn't been said over the years about many people. You get remarks about non-winners' facial expressions (complete with accompanying screen-shots) in the media after every big awards ceremony. Let's also not forget that the media reported what was being said by people online - so it's not as if they randomly decided to make up a story about Sheridan being drunk onstage (people were tweeting from their seats at the theatre about the show being stopped, and Sheridan appearing drunk prior to the show stop), or about her looking tired/unhappy at the BAFTAs (again, people were tweeting about that while sat in front of their TVs, or shortly after the ceremony aired). All they did was pick up on what the twitterverse was saying. This isn't the first time, and won't be the last, that the media have taken advantage of a situation. Unfortunately, Sheridan is taking it all as a personal attack instead of simply seeing it for what it is and ignoring it. *Like 'haters', 'bullying' is one of those words that's ridiculously overused, often to describe behaviour that isn't actually 'bullying'! I completely understand your point of view and respect it, but I consider targeting one person with negativity repeatedly, or a group of people targeting one person repeatedly, as bullying regardless of them being famous or not. I can understand why some may not think that, but I just do. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 15:26:28 GMT
I have browsed through her Twitter just now GOD she is a Tw*t You try have the press literally tearing you apart for every little thing you do at the moment, on your back constantly, it's not nice! I feel so sorry for her, all she's trying to do is do a good performance!! |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 15:59:38 GMT
I know it's a slightly different industry but if Sheridan is building a notoriety for being a loose cannon could it not potentially appeal to a certain demographic Not necessarily the musical theatre crowd but in the celebrity obsessed world the likes of Winehouse and Doherty and even to an extent before that Whitney Houston have appealed to people going along to watch something that will be either genius or car crash Not saying it's right but there is an audience out there. Well a couple of those are dead and the third tried his best to be the same. It's the demographic of bystanders looking up at someone on the ledge of a building and shouting jump. |
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Post by infofreako on May 10, 2016 16:00:42 GMT
I know it's a slightly different industry but if Sheridan is building a notoriety for being a loose cannon could it not potentially appeal to a certain demographic Not necessarily the musical theatre crowd but in the celebrity obsessed world the likes of Winehouse and Doherty and even to an extent before that Whitney Houston have appealed to people going along to watch something that will be either genius or car crash Not saying it's right but there is an audience out there. Well a couple of those are dead and the third tried his best to be the same. It's the demographic of bystanders looking up at someone on the ledge of a building and shouting jump. Exactly what I was getting at |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 16:18:47 GMT
I understand that many people are a fan of Sheridan and for good reason, she is an excellent actress. However, there is no denying that her conduct whilst she has been starring in this show has at times been unprofessional.
I'm going to put aside the drunk/technical issues thing as I obviously can't prove what the truth is or not.
Even without that, the way she has tweeted about the production itself during the Menier run and is now tweeting about the press and suggesting that that is part of the reason she can't do the show...it just isn't good enough. If she doesn't feel well enough, mentally or physically, to do the show for a few nights then that's fine, but don't make things worse by going on about it on Twitter. By all means use social media, but there's a way to use it. Non-famous people aren't allowed to tweet about their employer the way she tweeted during the Menier run. They would likely get fired. I understand that it must be difficult to face media scrutiny as a famous person but there are plenty of examples of people that are more famous than Sheridan and face more scrutiny carrying on and doing their jobs.
I have no doubt that if it was Natasha that was tweeting like this instead of Sheridan she would have been replaced a long time ago. There are plenty of people without the fame and name recognition of Sheridan that could play this role just as well but aren't given the chance because of those reasons. I understand that, the producers need to sell tickets. However, if they did get the part, they certainly would not be acting like Sheridan is, no matter what they were going through in their personal lives, as they would know the value of the job.
All that being said, I hope Sheridan feels better in herself soon and continues on in the show without further interruption.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 16:22:21 GMT
I completely understand your point of view and respect it, but I consider targeting one person with negativity repeatedly, or a group of people targeting one person repeatedly, as bullying regardless of them being famous or not. I can understand why some may not think that, but I just do. Bullies pick on perceived weakness, whether that be behaviour, race, sexuality or whatever. The ability to spread information amplifies it, so the press are particularly prone. The internet has also made it easier for internet haters, trolls and fellow travellers to indulge in it so we have reached a perfect storm of circumstances leading many to think bullying is normal, in the workplace or wherever. Even when you point it out it is explained away as 'banter', 'having a laugh' or some other obfuscation. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 16:27:00 GMT
I completely understand your point of view and respect it, but I consider targeting one person with negativity repeatedly, or a group of people targeting one person repeatedly, as bullying regardless of them being famous or not. I can understand why some may not think that, but I just do. Bullies pick on perceived weakness, whether that be behaviour, race, sexuality or whatever. The ability to spread information amplifies it, so the press are particularly prone. The internet has also made it easier for internet haters, trolls and fellow travellers to indulge in it so we have reached a perfect storm of circumstances leading many to think bullying is normal, in the workplace or wherever. Even when you point it out it is explained away as 'banter', 'having a laugh' or some other obfuscation. Completely agree. And the fact that if Sheridan has "allegedly" had drink or mental health issues, that is also bullying someone who is vulnerable and actually can't help themselves. Let alone also adding the personal issues regarding her family. Which is why it infuriates me even more. |
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Post by theatre-turtle on May 10, 2016 16:31:18 GMT
Is she going on tonight?
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 16:32:46 GMT
It has been announced Sheridan will be off and Natasha will be on tonight. So Sheridan will be missing a second performance in a row. Which does make me suspect she is genuinely ill. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 16:37:23 GMT
Bullies pick on perceived weakness, whether that be behaviour, race, sexuality or whatever. The ability to spread information amplifies it, so the press are particularly prone. The internet has also made it easier for internet haters, trolls and fellow travellers to indulge in it so we have reached a perfect storm of circumstances leading many to think bullying is normal, in the workplace or wherever. Even when you point it out it is explained away as 'banter', 'having a laugh' or some other obfuscation. Completely agree. And the fact that if Sheridan has "allegedly" had drink or mental health issues, that is also bullying someone who is vulnerable and actually can't help themselves. Let alone also adding the personal issues regarding her family. Which is why it infuriates me even more. Exactly this. People tend to lose their humanity and fail to see how vindictive comments can become, especially in the digital age. The internet acts as a buffer between the people with pitchforks and the accused, making them desensitised to the impact it has directly. This still is not justifiable though in my opinion. |
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Post by emilyrose on May 10, 2016 16:43:06 GMT
It has been announced Sheridan will be off and Natasha will be on tonight. So Sheridan will be missing a second performance in a row. Which does make me suspect she is genuinely ill. Again, it cannot be anything like a virus, she blamed the press yesterday as the reason she wasn't on, the press didn't cause her to catch the flu. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 16:45:52 GMT
Sorry to double post, but this thread has become swamped with negativity over Sheridan's perceived behaviour for the last fortnight. Might I suggest that if we insist on continuing this then someone writes about it in the Performer's section. I, for once, would like to open this thread and read more about the show itself.
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Post by infofreako on May 10, 2016 16:48:09 GMT
It has been announced Sheridan will be off and Natasha will be on tonight. So Sheridan will be missing a second performance in a row. Which does make me suspect she is genuinely ill. Again, it cannot be anything like a virus, she blamed the press yesterday as the reason she wasn't on, the press didn't cause her to catch the flu. Perhaps not but the stress she's dealing with could leave her and her immune system run down and thus more open to viruses |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 16:53:19 GMT
Sorry to double post, but this thread has become swamped with negativity over Sheridan's perceived behaviour for the last fortnight. Might I suggest that if we insist on continuing this then someone writes about it in the Performer's section. I, for once, would like to open this thread and read more about the show itself. I actually have been thinking about mentioning this. This thread has just become a Sheridan negativity discussion. I can understand posting in here about her being off and Natasha being on, but otherwise keep all the press stuff, twitter stuff etc for a thread in the performer section. |
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Post by infofreako on May 10, 2016 16:56:32 GMT
Sorry to double post, but this thread has become swamped with negativity over Sheridan's perceived behaviour for the last fortnight. Might I suggest that if we insist on continuing this then someone writes about it in the Performer's section. I, for once, would like to open this thread and read more about the show itself. I actually have been thinking about mentioning this. This thread has just become a Sheridan negativity discussion. I can understand posting in here about her being off and Natasha being on, but otherwise keep all the press stuff, twitter stuff etc for a thread in the performer section. Thirded. I want to know about the show |
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Post by littleflyer on May 10, 2016 16:56:38 GMT
Sorry to double post, but this thread has become swamped with negativity over Sheridan's perceived behaviour for the last fortnight. Might I suggest that if we insist on continuing this then someone writes about it in the Performer's section. I, for once, would like to open this thread and read more about the show itself. Here here! An understudy went on this show last night and instead of the thread being filled with reports back on her performance or discussing the show, people are still speculating on Sheridan! I feel like I'm in Groundhog day every time I open this thread and to be honest its getting a little boring, we will probably never know what has happened and keep speculating the same things over and over again isn't going to change that |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 16:59:23 GMT
I have just created a Sheridan thread in Performers... anyone who wants to discuss her personal life please do feel free and lets keep this about the show, the WHOLE cast's performance (as well as Sheridan's incredible one) and the show itself.  |
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Post by horton on May 10, 2016 18:29:11 GMT
I have just created a Sheridan thread in Performers... anyone who wants to discuss her personal life please do feel free and lets keep this about the show, the WHOLE cast's performance (as well as Sheridan's incredible one) and the show itself. This is the height of hypocrisy! We get thread after thread bogged down with people asking about day seats, cheap ticket deals, what time to arrive at the box office for deals, where to sit etc etc- which is nothing to do with the performance of the show! Here we're talking about the STAR of a STAR vehicle- and how her conduct is impacting on performances of 'Funny Girl'. I'm not in the least interested in what else she does in her life but I certainly intend to discuss the actress playing Fanny Brice in a show all about Fanny Brice. You are behaving like you just want to shut down opinions you don't like. And by the way, my own "hunch" (and you can look back at how accurate my previous "hunches" have been) is that genuine illness is at the root of this absence, but having cried wolf before, Sheridan- and the producers- have lost the crowd. And that's a difficult position to be in. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 18:30:55 GMT
I have just created a Sheridan thread in Performers... anyone who wants to discuss her personal life please do feel free and lets keep this about the show, the WHOLE cast's performance (as well as Sheridan's incredible one) and the show itself. This is the height of hypocrisy! We get thread after thread bogged down with people asking about day seats, cheap ticket deals, what time to arrive at the box office for deals, where to sit etc etc- which is nothing to do with the performance of the show! Here we're talking about the STAR of a STAR vehicle- and how her conduct is impacting on performances of 'Funny Girl'. I'm not in the least interested in what else she does in her life but I certainly intend to discuss the actress playing Fanny Brice in a show all about Fanny Brice. You are behaving like you just want to shut down opinions you don't like. And by the way, my own "hunch" (and you can look back at how accurate my previous "hunches" have been) is that genuine illness is at the root of this absence, but having cried wolf before, Sheridan- and the producers- have lost the crowd. And that's a difficult position to be in. Well that is your opinion, and your opinion is perfectly valid. |
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Post by Hamilton Addict on May 10, 2016 18:33:14 GMT
I have just created a Sheridan thread in Performers... anyone who wants to discuss her personal life please do feel free and lets keep this about the show, the WHOLE cast's performance (as well as Sheridan's incredible one) and the show itself. This is the height of hypocrisy!  |
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Post by partytentdown on May 10, 2016 18:54:33 GMT
*fetches popcorn*
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 18:58:02 GMT
If its any consolation to anyone, from what I have heard, the other 16 cast members are all on. And I am sure the understudy for Fanny's assistant is fantastic.
I actually wouldn't mind seeing Natasha in the role having already seen Sheridan, how is she? Any differences?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 10, 2016 19:03:29 GMT
I have browsed through her Twitter just now GOD she is a Tw*t You accused Sheridan of being neither classy or elegant earlier..... bit rich isn't it! It's almost got to a point where I think she should just step away. It's clearly not the right time for her to be doing this. "Dear Lea Michele…" Oh I don't know A month off A Crash diet Chin lift Some English lessons Some signing lessons And a personality transplant She'd be amazing Parsley we are not here to provide a platform for your mysoginistic rants. You're offending people. Rein it in please. |
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Post by Hamilton Addict on May 10, 2016 19:07:08 GMT
I have browsed through her Twitter just now GOD she is a Tw*t You accused Sheridan of being neither classy or elegant earlier..... bit rich isn't it! Burns being handed out left, right and centre on this thread...  |
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