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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 12:19:00 GMT
My parallel to Beyonce came after Sheridan Smith herself stated she would be "driven to America"
What she fails to realise is that the US entertainment industry is the most cut throat and competitive in the world
They have proper funding and pay writers and actors amounts that UK counterparts can only dream of
They employ teams of people to write a show and don't just commission Steven Poliakoff to adapt a novel for BBC 1 on Sunday nights
She lacks the ability to survive a market like the US
They won't just cast her out of habit and because she acts like a knob on social media like they do here
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Post by basdfg on May 10, 2016 12:20:02 GMT
I like how its described as Indisposed on West End understudies when everyone else who is absent short notice gets no reason. Even their tweet of when Glen Close was absent.
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Post by emilyrose on May 10, 2016 12:21:57 GMT
Unless it hasn't been posted yet, Sheridan will be missing tonight's performance too, I suspect proper illness. Well, you cannot blame the press for the flu, as she did yesterday.
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Post by trapdoor on May 10, 2016 12:24:01 GMT
Come back Martine McCutcheon...all is forgiven!
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 12:36:18 GMT
Come back Martine McCutcheon...all is forgiven! LOL! She knows 'Don't Rain On My Parade'! Wouldn't there just be something utterly glorious about Sheridan pulling out and La McCutcheon stepping in to finish the run and never missing a show? We can all dream . . .
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 10, 2016 12:36:39 GMT
Real stars don't need twitter. And if they do they have someone managing it on their behalf.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 10, 2016 12:38:14 GMT
Not performing tonight either, Natasha is on. Hope Sheridan does finish the run I will dance down the Strand in my underpants if Sheridan is still in this show by the closing night.
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Post by partytentdown on May 10, 2016 12:41:51 GMT
Guys, hasn't she missed...one show? I'm by no means a Sheridan fan - I think she's pretty samey in everything - but why all this hype about her losing the plot and going off the rails?
I would bet that the leads of pretty much every West End show miss on the odd show due to illness or exhaustion, especially while they have ill family members.
Yes, she badly needs some management and social media training. I bet if a lot of other actors of her level of fame ran their own social media we'd be seeing many similar meltdowns...
I say, give her a couple of days rest and see if she's still losing it, or whether she just needed a couple of good nights sleep.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 12:47:57 GMT
Not performing tonight either, Natasha is on. Hope Sheridan does finish the run I will dance down the Strand in my underpants if Sheridan is still in this show by the closing night. Now that's a show we all want to see right? Didn't the vile Katie Hopkins promise something similar if Sadiq Khan was elected? you could do a relay race!
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Post by theatre-turtle on May 10, 2016 12:53:36 GMT
I don't think it's that muchof a disaster...... if anything it enhances her 'celeb value' and her worth in the market. Her antics have brought masses of publicity both to her and her projects, and to Funny Girl
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 12:53:58 GMT
Not performing tonight either, Natasha is on. Hope Sheridan does finish the run I will dance down the Strand in my underpants if Sheridan is still in this show by the closing night. Ooo dear I hope you wear nice underpants if this does happen.
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Post by richey on May 10, 2016 13:03:35 GMT
Not performing tonight either, Natasha is on. Hope Sheridan does finish the run I will dance down the Strand in my underpants if Sheridan is still in this show by the closing night. *sets up camp on the Strand in anticipation*
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Post by Dave25 on May 10, 2016 13:25:53 GMT
While I agree that some stars (Sheridan included at times) and frankly us mere mortals (myself included) should learn when to shut our mouths on twitter etc, I disagree that 'real stars don't need twitter' social media in general can be a great way for actors to interact with people, and even promote good causes close to their hearts. It can also just be a lot of fun for them and their fans-random example, Gillian Anderson currently posts the best/worst of all her bad 90s photo shoots as a 'throwback Thursday'. Or it can give fun insight into production processes etc which fans really enjoy. Or others in theatre like Carrie Hope Fletcher, whose youtube videos with bits of behind the scenes at the theatre are really interesting /fun. It's not necessary by any means but I'd disagree that social media presence is a kind of desperation or only attention seeking....heck even Beyonce uses it (albeit in a hyper controlled PR manner) I agree that those examples (behind the scenes, making of, professional interactions etc) can be fun and useful for fans. Maybe it's just the personal stuff that should be left out. Everyone has negative thoughts about various subjects at times, but once you post them on twitter, this negative vibe will stick to you. I remember Sofia Escobar, a former London Christine getting in a fight with some fan because that person had said that she didn't like her performance. As long as you behave positive and fake you are fine I guess. But that's the whole point of showbizz, in interviews etc. Acting as likeable as possible? I just like to think it should be more about the real talent and roles etc.
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Post by emilyrose on May 10, 2016 13:29:03 GMT
I don't think it's that muchof a disaster...... if anything it enhances her 'celeb value' and her worth in the market. Her antics have brought masses of publicity both to her and her projects, and to Funny Girl Celeb value is different to worth in the market. If she wishes for a career of appearing in reality tv like I'm a celeb or big brother or turning up to opening's of films, then that's where 'celeb value' is worth while. However, if you want to be taken seriously as an actress and performer then she needs to be professional, as it could put off producers of stage and tv from hiring her as she can be too much of a loose canon.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 13:47:52 GMT
I have browsed through her Twitter just now
GOD she is a Tw*t
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 13:48:18 GMT
If it were any other actress who was off sick, no one would bat an eyelid, not even some on here. Just because it is Sheridan, everyone wants to jump on the bandwagon and basically bully her.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 14:02:53 GMT
While I agree that some stars (Sheridan included at times) and frankly us mere mortals (myself included) should learn when to shut our mouths on twitter etc, I disagree that 'real stars don't need twitter' social media in general can be a great way for actors to interact with people, and even promote good causes close to their hearts. It can also just be a lot of fun for them and their fans-random example, Gillian Anderson currently posts the best/worst of all her bad 90s photo shoots as a 'throwback Thursday'. Or it can give fun insight into production processes etc which fans really enjoy. Or others in theatre like Carrie Hope Fletcher, whose youtube videos with bits of behind the scenes at the theatre are really interesting /fun. It's not necessary by any means but I'd disagree that social media presence is a kind of desperation or only attention seeking....heck even Beyonce uses it (albeit in a hyper controlled PR manner) I agree that those examples (behind the scenes, making of, professional interactions etc) can be fun and useful for fans. Maybe it's just the personal stuff that should be left out. Everyone has negative thoughts about various subjects at times, but once you post them on twitter, this negative vibe will stick to you. I remember Sofia Ascobar, a former London Christine getting in a fight with some fan because that person had said that she didn't like her performance. As long as you behave positive and fake you are fine I guess. But that's the whole point of showbizz, in interviews etc. Acting as likeable as possible? I just like to think it should be more about the real talent and roles etc. Oh I 100% agree it should be about the talent, and I loathe the 'famous for being famous' types, I just meant that twitter etc can be a fun 'add on' but only when someone is actually good at the 'real' job they do! (and indeed the 'don't be a dick' rule applies unanimously)
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Post by argon on May 10, 2016 14:30:20 GMT
Well at least there is plenty of help out there if one needs it nowadays, I hope she sees out the rest of the run I would like to see it in the near future
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 14:33:23 GMT
It's almost got to a point where I think she should just step away. It's clearly not the right time for her to be doing this.
"Dear Lea Michele…"
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Post by partytentdown on May 10, 2016 14:36:59 GMT
Ooh think of all those signs they'd have to change.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 14:47:45 GMT
It's almost got to a point where I think she should just step away. It's clearly not the right time for her to be doing this. "Dear Lea Michele…" Oh I don't know A month off A Crash diet Chin lift Some English lessons Some signing lessons And a personality transplant She'd be amazing
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Post by Steffi on May 10, 2016 14:52:32 GMT
I agree that those examples (behind the scenes, making of, professional interactions etc) can be fun and useful for fans. Maybe it's just the personal stuff that should be left out. Everyone has negative thoughts about various subjects at times, but once you post them on twitter, this negative vibe will stick to you. I remember Sofia Ascobar, a former London Christine getting in a fight with some fan because that person had said that she didn't like her performance. As long as you behave positive and fake you are fine I guess. But that's the whole point of showbizz, in interviews etc. Acting as likeable as possible? I just like to think it should be more about the real talent and roles etc. Oh I 100% agree it should be about the talent, and I loathe the 'famous for being famous' types, I just meant that twitter etc can be a fun 'add on' but only when someone is actually good at the 'real' job they do! (and indeed the 'don't be a dick' rule applies unanimously) Twitter can be a great way for celebrities to "give back" to their fans too. For example David Duchovny has been sorting out free tickets to his concerts for some fans through Twitter. Some celebrities do Q&A sessions on Twitter or simply send out the occasional tweets to fans. I really like Kevin Spacey. I once tweeted him after I'd seen him on stage. He responded which made my day (not ashamed to admit it). I'm not saying celebrities need Social Media but if used thoughtfully it can be a good thing. There definitely is a difference between using Twitter as a fun add on or having a hissy fit on Twitter everytime someone dares to criticise you though.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 15:19:33 GMT
It's almost got to a point where I think she should just step away. It's clearly not the right time for her to be doing this. "Dear Lea Michele…" Oh I don't know A month off A Crash diet Chin lift Some English lessons Some signing lessons And a personality transplant She'd be amazing Ever heard of the saying "if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all".
Oh, and yet again we go back to the body shaming. Great.
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Post by johartuk on May 10, 2016 15:23:15 GMT
If it were any other actress who was off sick, no one would bat an eyelid, not even some on here. Just because it is Sheridan, everyone wants to jump on the bandwagon and basically bully her. I don't think anyone is 'bullying'* her. She obviously sees it that way, but that doesn't mean she's being 'bullied'. As far as I can see, nothing has been said over the past couple of days that hasn't been said over the years about many people. You get remarks about non-winners' facial expressions (complete with accompanying screen-shots) in the media after every big awards ceremony. Let's also not forget that the media reported what was being said by people online - so it's not as if they randomly decided to make up a story about Sheridan being drunk onstage (people were tweeting from their seats at the theatre about the show being stopped, and Sheridan appearing drunk prior to the show stop), or about her looking tired/unhappy at the BAFTAs (again, people were tweeting about that while sat in front of their TVs, or shortly after the ceremony aired). All they did was pick up on what the twitterverse was saying. This isn't the first time, and won't be the last, that the media have taken advantage of a situation. Unfortunately, Sheridan is taking it all as a personal attack instead of simply seeing it for what it is and ignoring it. *Like 'haters', 'bullying' is one of those words that's ridiculously overused, often to describe behaviour that isn't actually 'bullying'!
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Post by argon on May 10, 2016 15:24:01 GMT
Yes please vocally it would be a walk in the park for her
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