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Post by partytentdown on May 10, 2016 19:09:10 GMT
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Post by andromedadench on May 10, 2016 20:25:53 GMT
Oh I 100% agree it should be about the talent, and I loathe the 'famous for being famous' types, I just meant that twitter etc can be a fun 'add on' but only when someone is actually good at the 'real' job they do! (and indeed the 'don't be a dick' rule applies unanimously) Twitter can be a great way for celebrities to "give back" to their fans too. For example David Duchovny has been sorting out free tickets to his concerts for some fans through Twitter. Some celebrities do Q&A sessions on Twitter or simply send out the occasional tweets to fans. I really like Kevin Spacey. I once tweeted him after I'd seen him on stage. He responded which made my day (not ashamed to admit it). I'm not saying celebrities need Social Media but if used thoughtfully it can be a good thing. There definitely is a difference between using Twitter as a fun add on or having a hissy fit on Twitter everytime someone dares to criticise you though. Most of the West End performers I follow seem to use Twitter primarily to vent their anger at TfL and various train companies. I think it was Jodie Jacobs I once saw wishing plague upon some train company. It was quite amusing. Rebecca Caine was a quite entertaining tweeter too the last time I checked. But Sheridan Smith should definitely stay away from Twitter at least until the papers have moved on to someone else. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 20:57:43 GMT
Yes Sheridan really does need to stay off Twitter. Natasha is conducting herself far more appropriately and she's 9 years younger than Sheridan.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 10, 2016 21:28:24 GMT
Doesn't sound like a very happy company.
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Post by mrbarnaby on May 10, 2016 22:03:12 GMT
I'm staggered by how unprofessional she is. She's had the cheek to tweet blaming the press. This is a fine way to answer her critics.. To call in sick again.
Talented girl but this is unacceptable. How selfish she is.
As good as the understudy is, people have booked to see her and she's letting a LOT of people down .
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 22:06:20 GMT
I appreciate the lady had only good intentions, but is it just me who thinks it might be a teensy bit of a bad idea to tweet a notoriously sensitive star, at an especially sensitive time, to say how talented her understudy is?
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Post by londonmzfitz on May 10, 2016 22:07:52 GMT
Saw Natasha at Menier, last night performance. Vocally great but Sheridan had an enthusiasm, sparkle about her performance (which I had seen 3 times prior to that last night) that that I really missed from Natasha. Sheridan engaged the audience, Narasha performed to the audience (my opinion).
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 10, 2016 22:24:18 GMT
I appreciate the lady had only good intentions, but is it just me who thinks it might be a teensy bit of a bad idea to tweet a notoriously sensitive star, at an especially sensitive time, to say how talented her understudy is? Perhaps she didn't know she's "notoriously sensitive". She might read The Times. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 22:28:23 GMT
I appreciate the lady had only good intentions, but is it just me who thinks it might be a teensy bit of a bad idea to tweet a notoriously sensitive star, at an especially sensitive time, to say how talented her understudy is? This is the tweet that appears to have got her blocked Concerning another Twitter user who had referred to wanting to see Sheridan not a 'poxy understudy'. The previous tweets this lady had sent to Sheridan were all supportive. I actually think it's more insensitive to block a supporting fan just because you can't bear to hear that your understudy is good too. It's not like she was saying Natasha was better than Sheridan. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 22:29:45 GMT
I am a fan of Sheridan. I think she is a very talented lady but i cant help thinking it would be best for both her and the remainder of the cast if she was to withdraw from the show at this stage. The reminder of the company dont appear to be too happy or supportive and surely stability is important within a cast?
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Post by littleflyer on May 10, 2016 22:37:23 GMT
Talented girl but this is unacceptable. How selfish she is. Selfish for taking sometime off to recuperate and get herself back up to a standard needed to perform the show and allow her understudy the chance to go and give people a performance they paid to see.......ok |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 22:47:56 GMT
I am a fan of Sheridan. I think she is a very talented lady but i cant help thinking it would be best for both her and the remainder of the cast if she was to withdraw from the show at this stage. The reminder of the company dont appear to be too happy or supportive and surely stability is important within a cast? Logistical nightmare though. The show is advertised using her name and image and tickets have been sold because of her name. Ticket prices are as high as they are because of her name. I know T&Cs cover it, but it would be rediculous to have an understudy cover the rest of the run, no matter how good they are. Yes that's a very fair point..... and there is no way they could continue without a star replacement!!! cant help feel there is a very bad atmosphere at the Savoy at the moment though |
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Post by Jon on May 10, 2016 23:09:02 GMT
Sonia Friedman and David Babani are regretting hiring Sheridan Smith for Funny Girl but I imagine they thought it would be a easy moneymaker
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 23:10:29 GMT
I appreciate the lady had only good intentions, but is it just me who thinks it might be a teensy bit of a bad idea to tweet a notoriously sensitive star, at an especially sensitive time, to say how talented her understudy is? Firstly, if you're notoriously sensitive, get off Twitter. It's as simple as that. Stop looking to see what people are saying about you then none of it can hurt. Telling the leading actress who pulled out of a performance that her understudy is brilliant firstly helps saves the productions reputation (I'm sure Glenn Close was thrilled to hear her understudy was brilliant when she knew a lot of people paid specifically to see her), and if anything can help take the pressure off Sheridan's shoulders - but that's not the problem here. What's crazy is no one is pulling her up on her performance or talent. If she was having meltdowns over the fact she wasn't very good then that's a different story, but from where I'm sat it seems she's having meltdowns because people are saying she's on the verge of some sort of meltdown. The thing is, the whole drunk thing had basically blown over and she's gone and blown the whole thing up again. For all we know, she meant to block the nasty ones and the supportive fan accidentally got caught in the crossfire. I've seen that happen before on social media. Now that someone else has explained the exchange more clearly we can see what's happened in this instance, but I'd argue more generally that if you want to save a production's reputation by talking up the understudy, you @ mention the theatre or production, not the person they're replacing. Sheridan did nothing whatsoever wrong at the Baftas to trigger the vitriol. The media are just being unpleasant and having a go. Would I like to see her metaphorically wave two fingers at the press by going back onstage and knocking the audience dead, as per usual? Absolutely, but if she's not feeling physically or mentally strong enough, it's only right she takes time to recover. Regardless of what anyone thinks about what should and shouldn't be said on social media, I'm genuinely staggered by how many people out there seem to have so little compassion for the impact of stress and publicity on an already stressed and insecure person. A lot of the comments on social media are way out of line. |
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Post by infofreako on May 10, 2016 23:22:43 GMT
Sonia Friedman and David Babani are regretting hiring Sheridan Smith for Funny Girl but I imagine they thought it would be a easy moneymaker What's the source for this? |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 3:14:04 GMT
I'm all for compassion and sympathy but there comes a point where people rely on that compassion in order to act however they want and get away with it. I just wonder if people would be making excuses for her if she was some new no-name actress straight out of drama school.
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Post by wickedgrin on May 11, 2016 5:26:22 GMT
I am an admirer of Sheridan Smith as an actress. I have seen her many times on stage in Little Shop of Horrors, Legally Blonde, Flare Path and Hedda Gabler. She has always struck me as a very professional actress with a strong work ethic, barely missing any performances in these productions. She is well aware of her responsiblity in these leading roles.
My advice to her is not to go down the "celebrity" route but to focus on her acting career. I suspect after Funny Girl she will not appear on stage again any time soon probably prefering film and TV work which can be done "away" from the audience. However, in the meantime she has a contract to fulfill at the Savoy (the production would not have been mounted without her)and my advice to her would be to come off "social media", rest, sleep, drink plenty of water, do not do any other projects/filming during the day and turn up at the theatre 6 days and 8 shows a week and deliver a fabulous performance as I know she can.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 11, 2016 6:20:59 GMT
It's Darius I feel sorry for. Wonder if he needs that hug yet...  |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 6:43:50 GMT
For all we know, she meant to block the nasty ones and the supportive fan accidentally got caught in the crossfire. I've seen that happen before on social media. Now that someone else has explained the exchange more clearly we can see what's happened in this instance, but I'd argue more generally that if you want to save a production's reputation by talking up the understudy, you @ mention the theatre or production, not the person they're replacing. Sheridan did nothing whatsoever wrong at the Baftas to trigger the vitriol. The media are just being unpleasant and having a go. Would I like to see her metaphorically wave two fingers at the press by going back onstage and knocking the audience dead, as per usual? Absolutely, but if she's not feeling physically or mentally strong enough, it's only right she takes time to recover. Regardless of what anyone thinks about what should and shouldn't be said on social media, I'm genuinely staggered by how many people out there seem to have so little compassion for the impact of stress and publicity on an already stressed and insecure person. A lot of the comments on social media are way out of line. Sorry, but if you're spending £70 a ticket then you expect the star to be there no matter what. If you can't hack the limelight don't step into the spotlight. No one forces Sheridan to be an actress, to do stage work or put herself out there. She is a grown woman. As I said before, this isn't about her talent, so I don't know where or how insecurity comes into it. No one is saying she isn't good enough. But if you are going to get stressed by the public and media attention that comes with a higher profile then you need to be mature enough to not read it. It's honestly as simple as that. I don't really care for Twitter and don't care what people say about her, who mentions who, or who she blocks. What I care about is professionalism - if you are calling in sick to work because of the things people say, then why on earth continue to read them! It is utterly unfair to criticise people for not having compassion towards her when ultimately she can avoid this situation by turning her computer off. It's like saying we shouldn't say anything bad about her just in case she can't handle it. Sorry but she deserves to be called out on her lack of professionalism, people deserve the right to voice their disappointment she didn't turn up at work and she needs to take note of that - you don't mess with your paying public because you need them more than they will ever need you. Speaking as someone who's seen more than her fair share of bullying over the years, I find the idea that 'if you ignore it, it will all go away' slightly ridiculous. Been there, done that. It rarely works. It also puts the onus on the person being bullied to solve the problem, which is grossly unfair since they didn't cause the problem in the first place. Turning the other cheek can make you feel like more of a victim too. Whereas coming out fighting can make you feel better - if you believe offence is the best defence... I mention insecurity simply because this sort of treatment can magnify any negative feelings you might harbour towards yourself. Past tweets/quotes suggest Sheridan may suffer quite a bit of insecurity about who she is and how people perceive her. I can't imagine the current situation is helping that. I'd suggest it's Sheridan's ability to engage so much with her emotions that makes her a great actress. To basically say to her now "Oh it's easy to deal with all this, just turn your emotions off, love" seems crass. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 11, 2016 6:54:56 GMT
I just rang my boss to ask if I could have the rest of the week off because I'm feeling insecure.
Didn't get very far!
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 7:03:27 GMT
That Sheridan Smith thread on "Performers" worked out as well as a Sunday night in with Professor Green.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 8:06:27 GMT
That Sheridan Smith thread on "Performers" worked out as well as a Sunday night in with Professor Green. Can't get people out of old habits I guess. I tried. |
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Post by kathryn on May 11, 2016 8:08:40 GMT
I just rang my boss to ask if I could have the rest of the week off because I'm feeling insecure. Didn't get very far! I have colleagues who had lots of time off when their parents had terminal cancer, and I've had colleagues who were signed off work due to stress and anxiety and other mental health crises. Please do not make light of these situations. |
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Post by londonmzfitz on May 11, 2016 8:17:49 GMT
I'd suggest it's Sheridan's ability to engage so much with her emotions that makes her a great actress. To basically say to her now "Oh it's easy to deal with all this, just turn your emotions off, love" seems crass. Top of my absolute pet peeves, people (KevinUK) who say "Sorry but" - it actually means I'm not sorry, I'm going to shat on her anyway. Jean Hunt's comment all the way. Sheridan fan. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 11, 2016 8:53:15 GMT
I just rang my boss to ask if I could have the rest of the week off because I'm feeling insecure. Didn't get very far! I have colleagues who had lots of time off when their parents had terminal cancer, and I've had colleagues who were signed off work due to stress and anxiety and other mental health crises. Please do not make light of these situations. I'm familiar with dealing with such diagnoses within my immediate family so I don't make light, thank you. I do however make light of yet another actor's histrionics which are then put down to their "insecurity". If Sheridan thinks she's not worthy of her acting career (which is what she's said in interviews) perhaps she should consider a different one. |
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