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Post by talkstageytome on Aug 16, 2016 15:25:26 GMT
Anyone seen the advert for E4's new show Stage School? It looks HILARIOUS, and not in a good way. Don't know why kids trying to get a start in the industry would want to be painted as a villainous, bitchy, difficult performers. I mean, we know that there are people like that, but you don't want to be flaunting it to potential employers! That being said, it's so clearly scripted that I thought it was supposed to be fictional at first, but the E4 description says that it's a 'structured reality series', so more like Made in Chelsea, The Only Way is Essex etc. I guess. Still, looks dreadful.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2016 15:56:55 GMT
I just saw this over on Facebook. Looks awful, but in a way I might not be able to look away from...but seriously why would you sign up for this if you were serious about a serious career? I guess I've answered my own question there...
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Post by theatremadness on Aug 16, 2016 15:57:19 GMT
This is absolutely laughable, but what worries me most is the reputation the industry will gain as a result of this. I think we can expect to see (as has already begun!) lots of actor and industry types imploring people to spread the word that this is NOT what drama school is about. That this is NOT a "prestigious" drama school as their press material seems to claim. I wonder whether it is even accredited. Hopefully not enough people will see it to make a difference, but all it takes is people to see one episode and decide that this is the theatre industry. And what lasting damage will it do to aspiring actors who are considering training at drama school, only to think that this monstrosity of a series is a true representation of drama school.
Really rather wish this had never been made.
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Post by talkstageytome on Aug 16, 2016 16:08:29 GMT
Agreed. It could've been an interesting and insightful look into professional training, but this looks like it's set totally in the realms of fantasy. Loads of people I follow on twitter are also tweeting about it now. Hopefully the kids (or are they basically 'characters'?) understood the effect this could have on their reputations when it was being filmed, and that they weren't coerced into acting out just to fulfil the show's promise that it will showcase 'the bitching, the backstabbing and the romances' of showbusiness. Vom.
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Post by Steffi on Aug 16, 2016 16:11:41 GMT
I've seen several West End performers voicing their disapproval of this on Facebook and I totally agree with them. Just the thought someone might end up believing this is what stage school is like is horrendous.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2016 16:25:19 GMT
If I may be extremely uncharitable for a moment, I've never seen "the prestigious D&B Academy of Performing Arts" listed in theatre programmes as somewhere that a West End performer has trained, so we may be over-estimating the viability of the latent careers that could be ruined by this show.....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2016 16:42:12 GMT
I think we can expect to see (as has already begun!) lots of actor and industry types imploring people to spread the word that this is NOT what drama school is about. I should think that anyone whose opinion matters will be well aware that reality TV is anything but reality. At least Big Brother never made any pretence of the fact that the production team were pulling the strings every step of the way, and that was positively unscripted compared with some reality shows.
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Post by theatreliker on Aug 16, 2016 16:46:39 GMT
Gives them their first acting credit.
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Post by DuchessConstance on Aug 16, 2016 17:22:39 GMT
I've heard of that school, vaguely. I can't remember exactly why but I definitely remember it not being good.
Eta - Their management company is on a load of industry blacklists.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2016 17:46:23 GMT
I think we can expect to see (as has already begun!) lots of actor and industry types imploring people to spread the word that this is NOT what drama school is about. I should think that anyone whose opinion matters will be well aware that reality TV is anything but reality. At least Big Brother never made any pretence of the fact that the production team were pulling the strings every step of the way, and that was positively unscripted compared with some reality shows. Slightly veering OT but that's why back in the early days I really enjoyed Big Brother, there was no pretence this was anything but an elaborate game with the contestants being clearly directed by those in charge. In the early days as well it wasn't nearly as cruel/sensationalist as people were a bit more naive going in as well.
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Post by matt on Aug 16, 2016 18:21:09 GMT
I think the responsibility D and B have to their students is totally destroyed by showcasing them in this manner. I can't ever imagine suggesting to my students that this would be a positive move for the industry or their career, unless you are looking for a quick route into the, far too many already, scripted reality rubbish that is all over the TV.
Any hopes of accreditation (or renewal) will now be severely damaged by promoting an entirely fictitious performers experience during training.
If there is a petition to ban it I would sign it.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 16, 2016 18:43:29 GMT
Sounds like loads of fun! When's it on?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 8:29:40 GMT
Marjorie! I'd forgotten Marjorie! but yes, you're right it was designed as a real social experiment and the reactions/personalities that came out reflected that in a really interesting way...alas it was all downhill from there.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 8:44:37 GMT
I liked the dish in, I think, the third series, that had "Marjorie's Revenge" painted on it. YES! I remember that. Wow I'm remembering just how into the first few series I was...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 10:10:58 GMT
I started watching Big Brother by accident half way through season three, and what drew me in was the way the show let the entertainment develop by allowing the housemates to interact naturally. The final week with the final four was particularly enjoyable. I went off it after season seven, in which the production team seemed to think it would be funny to see how often they could drive Aisleyne Horgan-Wallace to the edge of a breakdown. I recognise the names from season eight but I really don't remember it, and I must have stopped watching after that because season nine means nothing to me.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 17, 2016 11:52:19 GMT
Remember "Fight Night"? The first time a secret room was used and never been bettered since. "No. Naked. Jacuzziness."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 12:01:00 GMT
Did anyone watch the show ' school for Stars' on CBBC ? Because it looks likes cross between that and towie
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Post by elsg on Aug 23, 2016 14:32:58 GMT
Maybe reserve judgement before you watch it. Oh and I can assure you it is not scripted, two people extremely close to me are starring in this series. It's an advert, it's supposed to grip people in hence why they've chosen those clips, just wait till you actually watch an episode and not a 40 second advert - haha
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2016 14:36:27 GMT
I'm willing to bet money that the series itself is as heavily edited for dramatic effect as the trailer is. Even watching the whole thing, we're unlikely to get a realistic idea of how events actually went down. After all, if an undramatic show like Bake Off isn't free from editors cutting and pasting for most exciting effect, then I'd be incredibly surprised if a show about a stage school broke the reality show mould and went for sober realism instead.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2016 14:43:26 GMT
I think it looks Hi. Lar. I. Ous from that trailer.
I hope some of them are just as dreadful in the show as they would appear in the trailer.
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Post by talkstageytome on Aug 23, 2016 15:48:58 GMT
The mic amplified whispers of "I'm better than her", "I am too", at the end of the trailer get me every time. By scripted I of course mean guided by the production team etc. 'go here, do this, bitch about that'. I really hope it is, because if those boys and girls think moaning about their peers and treating each other with so little respect is going to get them anything other than a bad reputation then they've got another thing coming, as we've already said.
I can't stand Towie, or Made in Chelsea, or any of the other 'reality' TV shows, so I doubt this is going to be of interest to me personally, but I'll probably catch the first episode, just to see if it's any better than it's been made out to be.
Love the fact that they've added a couple of 'celebrities' to the cast (ex boy and girl band members from off of X Factor- or so a friend reliably informed me. I'd never heard of either of them), and then try and claim it's reality TV.
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Post by talkstageytome on Aug 23, 2016 15:54:06 GMT
Maybe reserve judgement before you watch it. Oh and I can assure you it is not scripted, two people extremely close to me are starring in this series. It's an advert, it's supposed to grip people in hence why they've chosen those clips, just wait till you actually watch an episode and not a 40 second advert - haha According to this old casting call notice it's a 'docu-soap' screenterrier.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/looking-for-multi-talented-actors.html and a press release described it as a 'structured reality series' so I think it pobably is scripted, structured, guided etc.. Plus the whole production looks very glossy, with all the stars wearing full face makeup. Not hugely realistic for drama school. It's clearly not aiming to be attractive to those with real life experience with drama school training etc. as 99% of performers commenting on it on twitter are saying it looks awful, it's misrepresenting training, it's not doing to stars any favours in the industry etc. I expect it'll be entertaining, but not aimed at those who it is about. Very odd.
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Aug 23, 2016 15:59:38 GMT
I have studied at two London stage schools and they are actually like this. It is really sad, but that's how it is nowadays.
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Post by talkstageytome on Aug 23, 2016 16:12:39 GMT
I have studied at two London stage schools and they are actually like this. It is really sad, but that's how it is nowadays. Yikes, really?! I'm only in my early twenties but the phrase 'not like this in my day' is coming to mind.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2016 17:11:42 GMT
Most of the Channel Four years of Big Brother were glorious. I will never forget the time that the Queen came to tea with Rodrigo.
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