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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2024 9:13:42 GMT
just thinking of returning to those cities for holiday
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Post by aspieandy on Jul 29, 2024 9:37:17 GMT
What do you think might happen to you?
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Post by Talisman on Jul 29, 2024 9:55:27 GMT
People generally are more likely to report the negative than the positive. I don’t deny that like many large cities, there can be serious incidents.
I am in London about 3 times a week in various parts using tubes and usually travel home to outskirts between 22.30 and 00.00. I have never seen any thing that worries me. I am elderly and the courtesy and consideration shown by people on crowded tubes is heart warming
Whilst some will report bad occurrences, and I sympathise with them, the perception is not entirely accurate. One should consider the number of people in circulation. I do not of course dismiss the impact of any single incident on the individual.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2024 9:56:14 GMT
What do you think might happen to you? just saw some people say they were mugged
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2024 9:57:46 GMT
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 29, 2024 9:59:05 GMT
just thinking of returning to those cities for holiday Is the city where you live “safe”?
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Post by aspieandy on Jul 29, 2024 9:59:28 GMT
It's a city of 9 million people.
If you want to judge a city via social media, I wish you well.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2024 10:04:23 GMT
just thinking of returning to those cities for holiday Is the city where you live “safe”? yes
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Post by Talisman on Jul 29, 2024 11:50:30 GMT
Perhaps best to be cautious and not venture away
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Post by blamerobots on Jul 29, 2024 12:01:19 GMT
Is anywhere safe? I'd say London is a fairly safe city (the central part at least) and like any part of society it'll have its problems. I'd just take the normal precautions anyone would take when going somewhere on holiday; store essentials in secure places, not take too much cash out, etc. When I went to NYC in Oct. 2022, I felt fairly safe there. Much safer than it was 10 years ago!
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Post by mkb on Jul 29, 2024 12:08:40 GMT
Worst possible way to judge risk and safety is from self-selecting evidence. Testimony from outliers is more likely to dominate.
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Post by Jon on Jul 29, 2024 12:11:55 GMT
Unless you live in a bunker or a remote island, you're never going to be 100% safe from anything.
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Post by Dr Tom on Jul 29, 2024 13:52:01 GMT
The central parts of both cities are pretty safe. Sadly, there's crime in both London and Manhattan, but it's not usually violent, more likely things like people walking around with their phone hanging out of their back pocket, then suddenly realising it's not there any more. Inconvenient and annoying, but it could happen in any city.
You do hear about people being stabbed in London, but it is not usually in tourist areas, and unfortunately the reasons are similar to in many other cities around the world.
The most unsafe I've felt on the tube recently was on the tube on a Saturday afternoon when about five (presumably stoned) teen boys decided to sit around me, despite their being a whole section of empty seats further down. There were other people in the carriage. Now, as it happened, two of them then decided they would wrestle, while the friend nearest to them looked like he wished he was anywhere else. All fine, but people can be accidentally (or perhaps intentionally) intimidating without trying.
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Post by nick on Jul 29, 2024 14:03:51 GMT
Act like a local not a tourist Don't do things/take chances that you wouldn't do at home Be aware of your surroundings and areas and what time your'e planning to visit.Midnight walks through Central Park are not a good idea Empty streets are possibly less "safe" than busy ones. If you are in a couple etc don't be distracted by the "company" you are keeping.Be aware of the people around you. And don't display your "wealth" Wallet and phone tucked away and not for all to see - and covet! And don't leave your common sense at home. The first line is the key. But the rest make sense. 30 years in South East London and the worst that has happened to me is a car swerving in my direction so an occupant could throw an egg at me. As Kitt66 says, I stay aware of my surroundings and keep my valuables out of sight but I would do that anywhere.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jul 29, 2024 14:44:31 GMT
Is the city where you live “safe”? yes Must be Chichester?
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jul 29, 2024 17:39:32 GMT
What about all those pickpockets! Yep those lovely old ladies with the walking sticks in the underpass
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2024 22:43:32 GMT
What about all those pickpockets! while annoying is not murder
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Post by Phantom of London on Jul 29, 2024 23:29:42 GMT
Come on, what a crazy question.
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Post by sph on Jul 30, 2024 1:36:11 GMT
For the average person, they're probably not any more or less safe than any other large town or city. Keep your wits about you and don't walk along the pavement with your phone out in your hand and you'll be fine.
If something looks dodgy, avoid it. If a street looks dangerous, take another. If a person looks aggressive (you occasionally get individuals who are drunk/on drugs wandering around who can be a bit unpredictable), cross the street away from them. But overall it's nothing you wouldn't see elsewhere.
NYC is a bit crazier than London, for sure - walk fast and act like you know where you're going!
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Post by danb on Jul 30, 2024 5:39:31 GMT
Don’t take a ‘free’ cd off of those doling them out in Times Square. You will be hassled for payment for it five steps later.
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Post by hannechalk on Jul 30, 2024 6:09:08 GMT
Up till yesterday the people of Southport would probably have said their town was pretty safe.
Then after the very tragic events the mouthfoamers came out in force to keep repeating the 'facts' a fake news outlet on X had said, despite it being confirmed that the suspect was born in Cardiff.
Masses of people are now whipped in a frenzy.
'Safe' is subjective. I've walked confidently through the rougher areas of Liverpool and Bristol without feeling unsafe. Other people avoid the same areas, because they don't feel safe.
Just act sensibly, as in the advice given by others.
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Post by adrianics on Jul 30, 2024 8:31:46 GMT
We spent a long weekend in NYC in May this year, staying in the Financial District and exploring Greenwich, Gotham and Williamsburg.
We at no point felt unsafe, including walking the streets of Williamsburg and getting buses/subway at night. As has been said to you already; confidence and blending in goes a long way, as does planning your journeys in advance so that you minimise the chances of getting lost. There are Youtube and online guides for how to stay safe in NYC if that will help your confidence, a small but simple example is knowing how to spot and hail an available taxi or ensuring you have mobile data so you can call an Uber or Lyft.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 30, 2024 8:49:10 GMT
I’m interested to know what @thebroadwayboy’s thoughts are after all of these responses
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2024 9:03:34 GMT
oh I am looking at nyc. but waiting for the other great Gatsby and stranger things to come
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2024 9:04:22 GMT
I have been to both cities twice. but was wondering if they became more dangerous
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