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Post by anthony40 on Jul 6, 2024 13:13:20 GMT
Well the people seem to have spoken quite loudly on this one.
Now, if there was just something that could be done about the weather......
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jul 6, 2024 13:27:32 GMT
Well the people seem to have spoken quite loudly on this one. Now, if there was just something that could be done about the weather...... Vote Green 😉 |
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Post by parsley1 on Jul 6, 2024 17:59:56 GMT
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Post by punxsutawney on Jul 6, 2024 20:26:28 GMT
Maybe we can do more than one thing at once? I would think this would be a relatively uncontroversial policy suggestion on here, as a board of theatre lovers we should want to ensure the next generation is nurtured... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2024 10:08:35 GMT
I feel that is a massive over-reaction. It is the SOLT that pushed the idea and 'some MPs' have backed it. I would be surprised if SOLT didn't push the agenda of theatre for all, as theatre is their whole remit. As for the Government, it is not as if they have said, let's focus just on this initiative and ignore absolutely everything else in the country, they can multi-task. |
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Post by Jan on Jul 7, 2024 11:30:07 GMT
Interesting that Starmer is loading up the Department of Heath with full-on Blairites who are keen on private sector involvement in the NHS. Not only Wes Streeting but also now Alan Milburn. Those two are far more likely to “part-privatise” the NHS in the name of reform than any Conservative health minister would ever have dared to do. Interested to see how many Labour voters attack them (some already are).
His worst appointment and likely to cause him lots of problems is Ed Miliband at Energy who is an ideologue in a way Starmer said wouldn’t be a feature of his government. Miliband has announced that decarbonisation of the grid by 2030 will lead to lower energy bills. Both of those goals are impossible to meet and Ed won’t like having to announce that in due course.
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Post by Jan on Jul 7, 2024 11:34:17 GMT
On voting reform: Farage’s next target is the Welsh Assembly elections in 2026 which are run on a form of PR. Will be interesting to see how he does there.
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Post by sf on Jul 7, 2024 14:32:35 GMT
It isn't government policy, it's a goal SOLT is actively pursuing - and it's not a bad idea to make sure all children get an early introduction to culture . And really, in terms of the business of government, an initiative like this is tiny. It's laughable to suggest something like this is seriously going to distract a government - ANY government - from tackling child poverty and all the rest of it. It wouldn't even cost very much. |
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Post by Jon on Jul 7, 2024 23:56:31 GMT
SOLT and ACE should be pursuing the agenda of getting more kids to see theatre and TBH SOLT already do with Kids Month in August and the January sale.
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Post by talkingheads on Jul 8, 2024 12:17:18 GMT
The Government can work on several projects at once. In the scheme of things, this is an absolutely tiny fraction of Government resources that will help kids experience the theatre. I can understand being against certain Government initiatives, but to be so vehemently against this is very odd. |
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Post by mkb on Jul 8, 2024 12:48:58 GMT
Interesting that Starmer is loading up the Department of Heath with full-on Blairites who are keen on private sector involvement in the NHS. Not only Wes Streeting but also now Alan Milburn. Those two are far more likely to “part-privatise” the NHS in the name of reform than any Conservative health minister would ever have dared to do. Interested to see how many Labour voters attack them (some already are). ... As a Labour voter and someone who gets to hear regularly about self-inflicted NHS issues from my consultant husband, I've been critical of Streeting for a long time. One of the curious consequences of a large majority is that it's easier for factions within a governing party to challenge the prevailing orthodoxy, but I fear the move to the private sector will neither stop nor slow down. Only this year, a department I attend at my local hospital has been outsourced to a private company with some staff TUPE'd across. At my next appointment, I was informed that many of the routine tests I undergo were no longer covered and I would have to get these via my GP. The service only does the minimum its contract requires. You can bet that the excess that was previously covered and now has to be picked up elsewhere in the NHS did not form any part of the financial assessment when the tender from the private provider won the bidding. (And I dread to think how much time and money NHS departments waste on these frequent tendering processes even when they get to keep a contract.) |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jul 9, 2024 11:19:56 GMT
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Post by blamerobots on Jul 9, 2024 20:43:47 GMT
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Post by Jan on Jul 10, 2024 20:05:35 GMT
Interesting that Starmer is loading up the Department of Heath with full-on Blairites who are keen on private sector involvement in the NHS. Not only Wes Streeting but also now Alan Milburn. Those two are far more likely to “part-privatise” the NHS in the name of reform than any Conservative health minister would ever have dared to do. Interested to see how many Labour voters attack them (some already are). ... As a Labour voter and someone who gets to hear regularly about self-inflicted NHS issues from my consultant husband, I've been critical of Streeting for a long time. One of the curious consequences of a large majority is that it's easier for factions within a governing party to challenge the prevailing orthodoxy, but I fear the move to the private sector will neither stop nor slow down. ) Good. Glad to see them implementing the Liz Truss planning reforms too, the ones Gove cancelled. |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jul 10, 2024 21:39:07 GMT
As a Labour voter and someone who gets to hear regularly about self-inflicted NHS issues from my consultant husband, I've been critical of Streeting for a long time. One of the curious consequences of a large majority is that it's easier for factions within a governing party to challenge the prevailing orthodoxy, but I fear the move to the private sector will neither stop nor slow down. ) Good. Glad to see them implementing the Liz Truss planning reforms too, the ones Gove cancelled. Was thinking you would be pretty pleased with the Labour government so far. Even as far as wondering if you even considered voting Labour. This thought was brought back down to earth with today’s poll that more than half of Tory members would support a marge with Reform. Would you turn red at this stage or follow the right of the Tory party? |
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Post by Jan on Jul 11, 2024 6:44:21 GMT
Good. Glad to see them implementing the Liz Truss planning reforms too, the ones Gove cancelled. Was thinking you would be pretty pleased with the Labour government so far. Even as far as wondering if you even considered voting Labour. This thought was brought back down to earth with today’s poll that more than half of Tory members would support a marge with Reform. Would you turn red at this stage or follow the right of the Tory party? I did vote Labour actually, primarily on the basis of the local candidate who I have had dealings with and that Starmer's Labour policies - particularly economic - were in practice not that different to Sunak/Hunt's from my perspective. Also I have been keeping an eye on Streeting and he talks a good game on the NHS - the Daily Mail have a supportive article on him today for example. If it had been an election based on PR or if Corbyn had been at the helm I would have reconsidered. I've voted for all the main parties over the years - I was Labour (along with the Sun newspaper) during the earlier Blair years (as most people were). |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jul 11, 2024 7:49:20 GMT
Was thinking you would be pretty pleased with the Labour government so far. Even as far as wondering if you even considered voting Labour. This thought was brought back down to earth with today’s poll that more than half of Tory members would support a marge with Reform. Would you turn red at this stage or follow the right of the Tory party? I did vote Labour actually, primarily on the basis of the local candidate who I have had dealings with and that Starmer's Labour policies - particularly economic - were in practice not that different to Sunak/Hunt's from my perspective. Also I have been keeping an eye on Streeting and he talks a good game on the NHS - the Daily Mail have a supportive article on him today for example. If it had been an election based on PR or if Corbyn had been at the helm I would have reconsidered. I've voted for all the main parties over the years - I was Labour (along with the Sun newspaper) during the earlier Blair years (as most people were). Yeah ashamed to say Blair got my vote in 1997. Bit of a shock to me that statement, I thought you were a little further right than a right of centre dabbler in new Labour. Shame my computer has a block on the Daily Mail, would have been interesting to see how you construct a positive article on Wes Streeting? |
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Post by Jan on Jul 11, 2024 8:04:00 GMT
I did vote Labour actually, primarily on the basis of the local candidate who I have had dealings with and that Starmer's Labour policies - particularly economic - were in practice not that different to Sunak/Hunt's from my perspective. Also I have been keeping an eye on Streeting and he talks a good game on the NHS - the Daily Mail have a supportive article on him today for example. If it had been an election based on PR or if Corbyn had been at the helm I would have reconsidered. I've voted for all the main parties over the years - I was Labour (along with the Sun newspaper) during the earlier Blair years (as most people were). Yeah ashamed to say Blair got my vote in 1997. Bit of a shock to me that statement, I thought you were a little further right than a right of centre dabbler in new Labour. When no one is offering your preferred policies, like this time I just choose the least worst based on a range of considerations. Then as now the choice was between proven incompetence and unknown competence. |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jul 11, 2024 8:51:56 GMT
Yeah ashamed to say Blair got my vote in 1997. Bit of a shock to me that statement, I thought you were a little further right than a right of centre dabbler in new Labour. When no one is offering your preferred policies, like this time I just choose the least worst based on a range of considerations. Then as now the choice was between proven incompetence and unknown competence. He he (the competence/incompetence bit not that the I can not see a situation where the left will ever feature again as an option in this country) |
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Post by danb on Jul 11, 2024 9:51:59 GMT
[/quote]When no one is offering your preferred policies, like this time I just choose the least worst based on a range of considerations. Then as now the choice was between proven incompetence and unknown competence. [/quote]
Totally this! Not everyone is a fervent left or right zealot. Unfortunately you can only choose from what is on offer.
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Post by Jan on Jul 11, 2024 15:49:18 GMT
His worst appointment and likely to cause him lots of problems is Ed Miliband at Energy who is an ideologue in a way Starmer said wouldn’t be a feature of his government. Miliband has announced that decarbonisation of the grid by 2030 will lead to lower energy bills. Both of those goals are impossible to meet and Ed won’t like having to announce that in due course. In the Labour manifesto it says they will not issue new oil and gas exploration licenses. Yesterday the newspapers were briefed a story that Miliband had actually done this by banning some licenses which were currently being bid on but which had not actually been issued yet. These licenses were made available by Liz Truss in one of the very few decisions she managed in her short tenure as PM. So, all perfectly logical and straightforward ? But no of course not, today Miliband's department says he's not banning them and these new exploration licenses will in fact be issued at the end of the bidding process. So which is it ? What it says in the manifesto or something else ? Miliband is a liability. |
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Post by parsley1 on Jul 11, 2024 17:43:40 GMT
How nice to see we need ANOTHER report into the NHS
Quite clearly a stalling tactic until the autumn
Instead of implementing real change
I think there is plenty to be working on NOW
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2024 18:39:28 GMT
How nice to see we need ANOTHER report into the NHS Quite clearly a stalling tactic until the autumn Instead of implementing real change I think there is plenty to be working on NOW They have been in power 7 days, only got sworn in yesterday, how about giving them a month or two to work through changes instead of doing a Truss, having an emergency budget and sending the country in a huge downward spiral. |
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Post by aspieandy on Jul 17, 2024 8:48:29 GMT
King's speech today announcing the new government's objectives. When talking to Labour, all through the campaign media wanted to focus on taxes, which was fair enough. I didn't understrand why they failed to see the hugest of huge elephants in that room, at least from what I saw and read. Maybe middle-class media liberals are a little uncomfortable talking about all their free money in public.
Must be quite nice enjoying the benefits of Tory policies while incurring none of the guilt of voting for them.
The most legit target is surely the magic money tree (the unstated key Conservative policy of guaranteed property inflation); unearned, undeserved, untaxed wealth (until downsizing, or death) that disenfranchises and makes a mockery of aspiration for young people who don't have access to family property wealth. So the hugest of elephants for me is Council Tax, spcifically revaluation and reform - intentionally, something not done since 1991. Imo, this route has several significant benefits, and the first year of the first term is the time to get it out of the way. Fingers crossed from me. In this undated doc, the IFS said its piece - worth a read, imo >>> ifs.org.uk/sites/default/files/output_url_files/Summary-Revaluation-and-reform-bringing-council-tax-in-England-into-the-21st-century.pdf |
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Post by parsley1 on Jul 17, 2024 10:29:20 GMT
Very interested to see what Labour do about
Public sector pay
The BBC notes
“Data, external from the IFS shows that while average private sector inflation-adjusted wages are around 4% higher than in 2010, public sector wages are still around 2.5% lower.
The average pay for nurses is down 6.5% over that time, teachers’ wages are 9% lower and doctors' 15% lower”
I would like to see where they are going to find the funding from and how they will address recruitment and retention
Personally I see a mess for this government at the end of their term as well
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