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Post by TheOneOnTheLeft on Aug 28, 2024 16:29:59 GMT
Just found out the access code NORMA1 offers a discount. (“Offer valid on purchases before 10/19/24 for performances 9/30/24 – 7/6/25.”) Appreciate you sharing this. I’ve tried it for a few different tickets/performances but can’t get any discount, despite it saying “NORMA1 enabled”. Do you know if this restricted to specific days/seats? I tried different dates and there was a discount of 10-20 $ on the “cheaper” seats. I guess it is not valid for all performances and ticket categories.
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Post by ceebee on Aug 28, 2024 20:34:24 GMT
With Broadway economics, plus the timing for Tony Awards, I think it's highly likely they are planning for at least a 9-12 month* run. I could imagine Nicole will stay with the until approx. July, maybe longer if she wins the Tony and her voice holds out. Otherwise, I can imagine they would be looking for a replacement after Nicole. * This does not mean the show will be open for bookings for the entire length of the run. It's typical in NYC that shows have shorter booking windows open at any one time than shows in London, for example. It'll take seven months to recoup based on projected ticket sales.
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Post by chernjam on Aug 29, 2024 4:32:19 GMT
With Broadway economics, plus the timing for Tony Awards, I think it's highly likely they are planning for at least a 9-12 month* run. I could imagine Nicole will stay with the until approx. July, maybe longer if she wins the Tony and her voice holds out. Otherwise, I can imagine they would be looking for a replacement after Nicole. * This does not mean the show will be open for bookings for the entire length of the run. It's typical in NYC that shows have shorter booking windows open at any one time than shows in London, for example. It'll take seven months to recoup based on projected ticket sales. Has there been any story that's talked about how much the production would cost here in NY? It would be wonderful for Sunset to be a financial hit on Broadway, finally. There was some rumor on some site recently that Heather Headley has been approached about taking over in July.
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Post by danb on Aug 29, 2024 8:28:21 GMT
Just found out the access code NORMA1 offers a discount. (“Offer valid on purchases before 10/19/24 for performances 9/30/24 – 7/6/25.”) Hi, is this when booking on seatgeek?
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Post by TheOneOnTheLeft on Aug 29, 2024 8:59:10 GMT
Just found out the access code NORMA1 offers a discount. (“Offer valid on purchases before 10/19/24 for performances 9/30/24 – 7/6/25.”) Hi, is this when booking on seatgeek? Yes.
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Post by ceebee on Aug 29, 2024 8:59:59 GMT
It'll take seven months to recoup based on projected ticket sales. Has there been any story that's talked about how much the production would cost here in NY? It would be wonderful for Sunset to be a financial hit on Broadway, finally. There was some rumor on some site recently that Heather Headley has been approached about taking over in July. I'm not aware of a story on here, but I've seen a breakdown of costings and recoupment schedule and longer term plans for the show if it hits targets. Suffice to say it's not cheap mounting this show on Broadway.
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Post by BVM on Aug 29, 2024 9:49:10 GMT
Ahh cool. Though where I am looking the 4 seats either side of the central aisles (16 seats in total) still very much off sale in rows E to L! I do wish they would materialise somewhere! I phoned SeatGeek, but they didn’t give me any clues as to what was happening. They just said they weren’t available. I believe the theatre box office opened this week so had hoped more seats would appear. But no. OK, small update - for some days one or two rows on that central E to L area are now sporadically appearing! They are unbelievably expensive (/normal for NYC?) though at 333 dollars! Have to say I find Seat Geek terrible. The colours of the seats on the plan are random and don't reflect prices - although not completely random as some prices are the same colour! And it's really hard to navigate it - as soon as you select something the plan rotates to this really awkward angle. I often find this with Broadway booking sites. They make our ones look very clear and simple. What have they got against a straightforward 2D colour coded by price seat map that keeps still and easy to see when you interact with it? One of the many things I don't "get" about Broadway! (My hunch given they surely have the same IT capabilities we do is that it's some kind of marketing trickery to make you spend more!)
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Post by BVM on Aug 29, 2024 9:51:21 GMT
Has there been any story that's talked about how much the production would cost here in NY? It would be wonderful for Sunset to be a financial hit on Broadway, finally. There was some rumor on some site recently that Heather Headley has been approached about taking over in July. I'm not aware of a story on here, but I've seen a breakdown of costings and recoupment schedule and longer term plans for the show if it hits targets. Suffice to say it's not cheap mounting this show on Broadway. That's really interesting :-) Have to say am a bit worried about the advance for this show as there is tons of availability even for the first week. Do ticket sales genuinely happen later on Broadway or is that just something we say to reassure ourselves? Do wonder slightly of the wisdom of picking such a big theatre compared to London. (Plus it's fundamentally quite an intimate production!)
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Post by ceebee on Aug 29, 2024 10:47:30 GMT
I'm not aware of a story on here, but I've seen a breakdown of costings and recoupment schedule and longer term plans for the show if it hits targets. Suffice to say it's not cheap mounting this show on Broadway. That's really interesting :-) Have to say am a bit worried about the advance for this show as there is tons of availability even for the first week. Do ticket sales genuinely happen later on Broadway or is that just something we say to reassure ourselves? Do wonder slightly of the wisdom of picking such a big theatre compared to London. (Plus it's fundamentally quite an intimate production!) I don't want to be the harbinger of doom or unduly pessimistic, but I think it will be touch and go whether this show makes a profit for a couple of reasons. The costs are eye watering; it will need to run longer to recoup and NS unlikely to commit longer to an open ended run therefore it would probably require Cabaret style shleb casting; the show is dependent on getting the traction and momentum it eventually got in London but I'm not sure that it will; Broadway audiences might decide they're a bit too cool for the meta which felt fresh last year but might feel a bit stale this year. Just my view - I LOOOVE this show - but I gulped when I saw the numbers and it reaffirmed that Broadway is a totally different beast to London to the point that it is almost economically unviable to produce shows there unless you have VERY deep pockets and a healthy appetite for risk.
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Post by danb on Aug 29, 2024 11:11:56 GMT
That's really interesting :-) Have to say am a bit worried about the advance for this show as there is tons of availability even for the first week. Do ticket sales genuinely happen later on Broadway or is that just something we say to reassure ourselves? Do wonder slightly of the wisdom of picking such a big theatre compared to London. (Plus it's fundamentally quite an intimate production!) I don't want to be the harbinger of doom or unduly pessimistic, but I think it will be touch and go whether this show makes a profit for a couple of reasons. The costs are eye watering; it will need to run longer to recoup and NS unlikely to commit longer to an open ended run therefore it would probably require Cabaret style shleb casting; the show is dependent on getting the traction and momentum it eventually got in London but I'm not sure that it will; Broadway audiences might decide they're a bit too cool for the meta which felt fresh last year but might feel a bit stale this year. Just my view - I LOOOVE this show - but I gulped when I saw the numbers and it reaffirmed that Broadway is a totally different beast to London to the point that it is almost economically unviable to produce shows there unless you have VERY deep pockets and a healthy appetite for risk. Which is why I also doubt the ludicrous positioning of ‘Tammy Faye’ too. They’re both (deliberately) a bit niche, and I’m not sure that either will be embraced quite how they are hoping. I adored ‘Sunset’ but I appreciate the whole lightning in a bottle nature of it. Repeating that is really quite a gamble.
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Post by BVM on Aug 29, 2024 11:33:10 GMT
That's really interesting :-) Have to say am a bit worried about the advance for this show as there is tons of availability even for the first week. Do ticket sales genuinely happen later on Broadway or is that just something we say to reassure ourselves? Do wonder slightly of the wisdom of picking such a big theatre compared to London. (Plus it's fundamentally quite an intimate production!) I don't want to be the harbinger of doom or unduly pessimistic, but I think it will be touch and go whether this show makes a profit for a couple of reasons. The costs are eye watering; it will need to run longer to recoup and NS unlikely to commit longer to an open ended run therefore it would probably require Cabaret style shleb casting; the show is dependent on getting the traction and momentum it eventually got in London but I'm not sure that it will; Broadway audiences might decide they're a bit too cool for the meta which felt fresh last year but might feel a bit stale this year. Just my view - I LOOOVE this show - but I gulped when I saw the numbers and it reaffirmed that Broadway is a totally different beast to London to the point that it is almost economically unviable to produce shows there unless you have VERY deep pockets and a healthy appetite for risk. I completely agree - also don't wish to be unduly pessimistic, but it truly looks touch and go. Broadway costs really are something else - and I guess (or hope) UK producers go in eyes open (and in fact I think the financial risk is mainly born by the US co-producers for our transfers?) that the main objective may not be to re-coup and you can be successful without making a profit. Though of course profit is still the aim! ALW said last year many produces now see Broadway as a loss leading "shop window" - you know you're gonna lose money but the USA will then forever see whatever production as a Broadway show and it will make money around the country and abroad further down the line..... But yes the traction grew and grew in London until the sell outs and bonkers pricing of the last few weeks. But the advance was much better - by this stage most of the first month was at least 2/3 sold. Broadway is indeed a different beast and things being a phenomenon here are zero guarantee of them doing the same there. The British shows that take off are few and far between. I know I've said it before but I really wish they'd found a way to do another 4-6 months in the UK. Yes I know the SJP play was already going in to The Savoy. Yes I know Scherzy (understandably) needed a holiday. But there must have been a way of doing another run - even if it was a year later I think there was enough momentum to continue selling out. Producers are obsessed with Broadway. And I don't quite get it. (And exactly the same goes for Tammy Faye which also currently seems to have zero advance). Having said all that I adore this show - easily the must stunning thing I have seen in years. I really hope it is a huge success in NYC! And I will keep checking the seating plans and pricing and see if I can make a trip work :-)
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Post by blamerobots on Aug 29, 2024 13:31:15 GMT
The original London programme had "UK tour" surreptitiously at the bottom on the back so I think another few months in the UK were expected before the Broadway announcement. Keep in mind the Broadway transfer was basically finalised sometime during the Savoy run perhaps in December, as the interview footage suggests, so maybe the tour was still the plan up until then. I guess it's still on the cards if Broadway goes wrong. Not exactly a hard show to tour... I think likely after it is finished on Broadway it will tour here or internationally with another celebrity in the main role (I mean, Scherzy seems pretty raring to go on this, so her going on tour is a possibility.)
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Post by chernjam on Aug 29, 2024 16:53:47 GMT
For all those who've mentioned it, you're right to feel pessimistic about Broadway. Think back to when Phantom closed and ALW made it a point to say how insane the costs have gotten here. And as you who've booked tickets can see, who's paying for it. I've never plopped down $750 for two tickets like I did for this - simply because I wanted my Mom and I to have center orchestra seating early in its run. Which we're going to a preview on October 12th (my thinking its early on that people are still fresh and yet a couple weeks in to work out the kinks) But I wouldn't worry about the advance. Like I said to someone else, I compared seating charts between Sunset and The Lion King (the current top grosser in NY) for the day I'm going to Sunset, and this far out, Lion King its crazy that easily 80% of the seats are available. People are very leery to purchase tickets in advance, especially post-COVID. There's no return policy if you had to cancel or reschedule and if your dropping top dollar right now you want to make sure you can make it. Also this weekend is "Labor Day weekend" which is the unofficial end to summer. I suspect now that people are back to more regular schedules and thoughts shift to all new things coming this Fall, ticket sales are picking up. There's been a steady buzz already and even friends of mine who aren't ALW or SB fans are talking excitedly about this...
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Post by iamluisfelipe on Aug 29, 2024 19:23:55 GMT
Pre-save for digital platforms is now available The cast recording is 2hours and 5 minutes long t.co/ux2QlqQKML
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Post by gjkooijman on Aug 30, 2024 9:05:25 GMT
Looks like they'll actually take to the streets again on Broadway...
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Post by danb on Aug 30, 2024 12:34:22 GMT
It’s a bit disappointing that they’re discounting Mandy/Tuesday nights already on Todaytix.
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Post by iamluisfelipe on Aug 30, 2024 19:33:59 GMT
It’s a bit disappointing that they’re discounting Mandy/Tuesday nights already on Todaytix. Weird of how they’re tagging some days as Mandy performances but on SeatGeek those appear as Nicoles. February 6 for example
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Post by shownut on Aug 31, 2024 8:11:02 GMT
For all those who've mentioned it, you're right to feel pessimistic about Broadway. Think back to when Phantom closed and ALW made it a point to say how insane the costs have gotten here. And as you who've booked tickets can see, who's paying for it. I've never plopped down $750 for two tickets like I did for this - simply because I wanted my Mom and I to have center orchestra seating early in its run. Which we're going to a preview on October 12th (my thinking its early on that people are still fresh and yet a couple weeks in to work out the kinks) But I wouldn't worry about the advance. Like I said to someone else, I compared seating charts between Sunset and The Lion King (the current top grosser in NY) for the day I'm going to Sunset, and this far out, Lion King its crazy that easily 80% of the seats are available. People are very leery to purchase tickets in advance, especially post-COVID. There's no return policy if you had to cancel or reschedule and if your dropping top dollar right now you want to make sure you can make it. Also this weekend is "Labor Day weekend" which is the unofficial end to summer. I suspect now that people are back to more regular schedules and thoughts shift to all new things coming this Fall, ticket sales are picking up. There's been a steady buzz already and even friends of mine who aren't ALW or SB fans are talking excitedly about this... Exactly. Massive advance sales have been on the decline ever since 9/11 and the final death knell was the pandemic. Outrageously high ticket prices and an unreliable world where plans can quickly get scuppered due to illnesses, strikes, etc...have more people waiting until the last minute before buying unless it is a limited engagement or for them, money is no object. We used to always book well in advance but now wait to see what offers might be available if it is an option. It gives producers nightmares but that is now the ticket buying habit of most of today's theatre-going consumers. A look at any seating chart is not a reliable indicator of how well a show will/will not do unless you are looking at the chart within days of the performance.
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Post by solotheatregoer on Sept 5, 2024 20:13:52 GMT
Plenty more seats released on SeatGeek for all dates it seems.
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Post by alece10 on Sept 6, 2024 18:48:54 GMT
Hope America doesn't keep Tom Francis after this. We need him back.
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Post by Matt on Sept 7, 2024 12:53:17 GMT
Hope America doesn't keep Tom Francis after this. We need him back. He’s going to be in the latest/last season of You on Netflix so my guess is he’s already made his moves away from musical theatre.
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Post by andrew on Sept 7, 2024 15:16:42 GMT
Hope America doesn't keep Tom Francis after this. We need him back. He’s going to be in the latest/last season of You on Netflix so my guess is he’s already made his moves away from musical theatre. He's already filmed You and he'll now be starring on Broadway and potentially LA after that. How's that moving away from musical theatre? 😂
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Post by Matt on Sept 7, 2024 18:43:15 GMT
He’s going to be in the latest/last season of You on Netflix so my guess is he’s already made his moves away from musical theatre. He's already filmed You and he'll now be starring on Broadway and potentially LA after that. How's that moving away from musical theatre? 😂 Well Sunset was already planned, and if LA is a new idea I guess he would continue in it with the rest, and You hasn’t aired yet, so once it does his profile on TV will go up and I expect him to start perusing tv and film more. He’s finishing off the same production he’s been attached to, he’s not gone into Les Mis.
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