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Post by max on Oct 8, 2024 10:06:13 GMT
Kinda surprised this is the first song they're officially putting out there - the big end of Act 1 number 'Empty Hands' It's being released on 7th October.
I enjoyed the show a lot at the Almeida, and thought Katie Brayben was wonderful. I find this video and song quite underwhelming out of context, and felt that at the time: this music works well enough for the show, and my Lord the cast are 'working it', but is it really that good? There's nothing stand out memorable, like Elton John's 'I Guess That's Why They Call It The Blues'. The lyrics in this are pretty funny at times: 'Til the garden's burned, like two-faced fireflies'. Did I hear that right? Lol. I've never thought of insects as big enough to focus on their faces, let along being two-faced. None of this speaks against it being a success on Broadway though. The elements, and especially Braben worked for me - and in the confines of the Almeida it was electric. It's just as extracted elements....not so much |
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Post by anthony40 on Oct 12, 2024 15:43:28 GMT
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Post by anthony40 on Oct 13, 2024 15:25:37 GMT
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Oct 15, 2024 2:59:47 GMT
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Post by vickyg on Oct 15, 2024 19:38:50 GMT
The website says that Tammy Faye will be played by Autumn Hurlbert ‘at certain performances’. Does anyone know whether this will be particular shows in the week?
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Post by jaggedlittlepie on Oct 15, 2024 20:01:27 GMT
Autumns Instagram bio says she will be playing Tammy on Sunday evenings
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Post by vickyg on Oct 17, 2024 18:10:42 GMT
Have I gone crazy or do all the songs they’ve released so far sound completely different to when it was in London? If only love is out today and sounds *terrible* to my ears.
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Post by shownut on Oct 17, 2024 19:19:32 GMT
Have I gone crazy or do all the songs they’ve released so far sound completely different to when it was in London? If only love is out today and sounds *terrible* to my ears. It had the reverse effect on me. I enjoyed this version much more. "Empty Hands" was not as good with the piano only version though. |
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Post by anthony40 on Oct 19, 2024 14:04:25 GMT
Oh, nothing much. Just listening to this new @eltonofficial love song on repeat. 😍 Check out the music video "If Only Love" from Tammy Faye, featuring Christian Borle and Katie Brayben. x.com/i/bookmarks?post_id=1846914064196255832 |
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Post by alece10 on Oct 20, 2024 8:23:15 GMT
I'd be interested to hear if they have fixed the issue with the bows we had in London which was very odd.
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Post by anthony40 on Oct 20, 2024 19:25:24 GMT
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Post by Matt on Oct 20, 2024 19:55:47 GMT
Link doesn’t work cos it’s a link to your bookmarks which we can’t see. |
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Post by anthony40 on Oct 20, 2024 20:01:50 GMT
Link doesn’t work cos it’s a link to your bookmarks which we can’t see. Sorry, I will try again shortly. Just in the middle of something |
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Post by anthony40 on Oct 20, 2024 20:27:03 GMT
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Post by shownut on Oct 21, 2024 9:42:33 GMT
Kind of sad how a lot of armchair critics (if they are to be believed), swamped the first preview so they could be the first to rip it apart, including the performances.
Sure, there are some things one can glean from a first preview including elements of the score, book and design but individual performances and pacing are all up for grabs and generally never as good as they could or will be on a first performance. Yet, the first preview vultures went on the attack anyway and for those who didn't attend, they certainly met someone who told them how awful it was and how they fled at intermission. Right.
The first preview was halted after the first number for a tech issue that reportedly took about 10 minutes and there was an overly long interval which suggests further tech problems. Happens.
But folks moaning that Katie was 'missing something' are half correct...she was missing the experience that comes from having a week of performances under your belt and a chance to find your pacing as well as your chemistry with a whole new cast. It saddens, no actually, angers me that folks who claim to love theatre don't get that and feel so quick to knock others down. Wonder how they would feel if someone so publicly trashed them after their first day on a job?
There were many complaints that the show ran far too long but given that they have a reduced schedule until the week before opening, it is clear they will be doing the work that previews are meant for.
Maybe it will work, maybe it won't, but the nastiness and bitchiness following a first tricky preview is just plain silly.
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Post by BVM on Oct 21, 2024 11:07:52 GMT
Kind of sad how a lot of armchair critics (if they are to be believed), swamped the first preview so they could be the first to rip it apart, including the performances. Sure, there are some things one can glean from a first preview including elements of the score, book and design but individual performances and pacing are all up for grabs and generally never as good as they could or will be on a first performance. Yet, the first preview vultures went on the attack anyway and for those who didn't attend, they certainly met someone who told them how awful it was and how they fled at intermission. Right. The first preview was halted after the first number for a tech issue that reportedly took about 10 minutes and there was an overly long interval which suggests further tech problems. Happens. But folks moaning that Katie was 'missing something' are half correct...she was missing the experience that comes from having a week of performances under your belt and a chance to find your pacing as well as your chemistry with a whole new cast. It saddens, no actually, angers me that folks who claim to love theatre don't get that and feel so quick to knock others down. Wonder how they would feel if someone so publicly trashed them after their first day on a job? There were many complaints that the show ran far too long but given that they have a reduced schedule until the week before opening, it is clear they will be doing the work that previews are meant for. Maybe it will work, maybe it won't, but the nastiness and bitchiness following a first tricky preview is just plain silly. Oh I know it's so depressing. This is such a good musical so unless it's literally been ripped apart and re-built (for the worse) from scratch (which it hasn't) then this tide of negativity from the community over there is unforgivable. Just. Where do people get off on this nastiness and bitchiness? The ones that matter are the public though not the keyboard warriors - hopefully they will take to it. It's a great show and I'd love to see it thrive. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Oct 21, 2024 11:22:24 GMT
It seems that everyone on the Broadway World message board has been desperate for this to flop from day 1. Such a weird thing when it was so much fun in London.
I fear the odds are stacked against it though as it’s not selling well and that is one huge theatre to fill.
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Post by shownut on Oct 21, 2024 11:43:53 GMT
Kind of sad how a lot of armchair critics (if they are to be believed), swamped the first preview so they could be the first to rip it apart, including the performances. Sure, there are some things one can glean from a first preview including elements of the score, book and design but individual performances and pacing are all up for grabs and generally never as good as they could or will be on a first performance. Yet, the first preview vultures went on the attack anyway and for those who didn't attend, they certainly met someone who told them how awful it was and how they fled at intermission. Right. The first preview was halted after the first number for a tech issue that reportedly took about 10 minutes and there was an overly long interval which suggests further tech problems. Happens. But folks moaning that Katie was 'missing something' are half correct...she was missing the experience that comes from having a week of performances under your belt and a chance to find your pacing as well as your chemistry with a whole new cast. It saddens, no actually, angers me that folks who claim to love theatre don't get that and feel so quick to knock others down. Wonder how they would feel if someone so publicly trashed them after their first day on a job? There were many complaints that the show ran far too long but given that they have a reduced schedule until the week before opening, it is clear they will be doing the work that previews are meant for. Maybe it will work, maybe it won't, but the nastiness and bitchiness following a first tricky preview is just plain silly. Oh I know it's so depressing. This is such a good musical so unless it's literally been ripped apart and re-built (for the worse) from scratch (which it hasn't) then this tide of negativity from the community over there is unforgivable. Just. Where do people get off on this nastiness and bitchiness? The ones that matter are the public though not the keyboard warriors - hopefully they will take to it. It's a great show and I'd love to see it thrive. I agree. It's a show with a lot of promise and I have a feeling that in a week or so we might be seeing the tides turn on opinion. It does sound like they have added a lot of material and know they will need to do some tightening/cutting once it is established what is/isn't working, hence the reduced show schedule for the next few weeks that will allow them to implement these changes. |
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Post by shownut on Oct 21, 2024 11:51:08 GMT
It seems that everyone on the Broadway World message board has been desperate for this to flop from day 1. Such a weird thing when it was so much fun in London. I fear the odds are stacked against it though as it’s not selling well and that is one huge theatre to fill. Agreed in that some people just hate the idea of another Elton John musical and that Bway World admittedly has some rather amateurish posters who think quite highly of themselves and less highly of using tact or considered thought when offering comment. Not even sure why I bother visiting it though sometimes it can be slightly entertaining....but not always in a tasteful or enlightening way. I am not too worried yet about sales yet as they have some very deep pockets behind them and can afford to the let show find its legs. Few shows actually open to major advances these days though there are exceptions (SUNSET for one). Many folks, (myself included), expected GATSBY to be closed by now based on early returns and were proven wrong. It is quitedoing more than quite well....even with no Tony Awards (and a dearth of nominations). |
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Oct 21, 2024 13:15:23 GMT
It seems that everyone on the Broadway World message board has been desperate for this to flop from day 1. Such a weird thing when it was so much fun in London. I fear the odds are stacked against it though as it’s not selling well and that is one huge theatre to fill. Agreed. I don't understand the mentality on that board at all. |
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Post by shownut on Oct 21, 2024 19:25:12 GMT
A song list was posted on Reddit.
Song order is mostly the same but RUN THIS SHOW has thankfully been dropped and replaced with new number “Don’t Shine A Light”.
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Post by shownut on Oct 21, 2024 20:23:05 GMT
I forgot… BRING ME THE FACE OF TAMMY BAKKER has also been cut.
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Post by parsley1 on Oct 21, 2024 21:01:34 GMT
From an objective POV
It went from a very limited run in a tiny venue
Which gets arts funding
And has a very loyal audience
To a massive commercial venue
And on Broadway not even WE
If it fails it’s hardly a surprise and greed card calls again
There is a slight lack of perspective IMHO
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Oct 21, 2024 22:08:39 GMT
To be fair it was created for the West End originally. It was always supposed to be a huge commercial venture, and has significant money behind it. It wound up doing an Almeida pre-run almost by accident then the six-month West End run had to be cancelled and everything fell apart. It's a real shame they couldn't reschedule something for the West End to test out the retooled show in front of a friendlier audience and generate a bit more buzz before heading stateside, instead of opening on Broadway cold.
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