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Post by alwfan on Jun 20, 2024 14:56:57 GMT
We travelled all the way from East Coast Canada (21 hours) to see Sarah in this production. When we finally get to Melbourne we were told she wasn't performing. They offered to charge the dates of the show which we did 3 nights in hopes to see her. A week later we are now on the way home without seeing her in thee show. VERY DISAPPOINTING as we were big Sarah fans. Has there been any official word or announcement about what's going on? Am I correct in thinking Sarah wasn't on for the last two weeks? Hasn't been on all of last week, and the three performances this week. I believe the last known performance by Sarah was the John Barrowman one on Sunday. Tim Draxl and Robert Grubb have also not been on for any of the performances this week. Not sure if it was scheduled or not. Interesting that all of the leads (apart fron Ashleigh Rubenach) were out this week. Tim had posted stories on his Instagram too, and didn't seem ill.
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Post by chernjam on Jun 20, 2024 16:08:38 GMT
Has there been any official word or announcement about what's going on? Am I correct in thinking Sarah wasn't on for the last two weeks? Hasn't been on all of last week, and the three performances this week. I believe the last known performance by Sarah was the John Barrowman one on Sunday. Tim Draxl and Robert Grubb have also not been on for any of the performances this week. Not sure if it was scheduled or not. Interesting that all of the leads (apart fron Ashleigh Rubenach) were out this week. Tim had posted stories on his Instagram too, and didn't seem ill. Not that I want anyone to be sick - but if they're all jumping ship now because of bad reviews and scaled back performances that's a pretty crappy thing to do. I mean Aspects of Love got terrible reviews last year in the West End and cut back their performances by 2-3 months, but Michael Ball to his credit was there till the end
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Post by max on Jun 20, 2024 17:13:02 GMT
Has there been any official word or announcement about what's going on? Am I correct in thinking Sarah wasn't on for the last two weeks? Hasn't been on all of last week, and the three performances this week. I believe the last known performance by Sarah was the John Barrowman one on Sunday. Tim Draxl and Robert Grubb have also not been on for any of the performances this week. Not sure if it was scheduled or not. Interesting that all of the leads (apart fron Ashleigh Rubenach) were out this week. Tim had posted stories on his Instagram too, and didn't seem ill. What was "the John Barrowman one on Sunday"? I've looked back through the thread and can't see a reference (may just be my eyes). This all sounds like a real letdown for the audience if Draxl and Grubb are off too. Feels like they need to recast for Sydney, although someone above mentioned that previous Normas may be a bit old to draft in - and may not mean much to an Australian audience.
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Jun 20, 2024 17:14:18 GMT
Given that Brightman has long been far more famous as a singer than as a musical theatre performer, it tells me something about her performance that they haven't, unless I missed it, used clips of her singing Norma's two big numbers to promote the production. Though to be fair, they have never released anything of Nicole signing in Sunset either.or did they and I missed it? She's certainly never sung anything on any tv shows or theatre events either.
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Post by magnificentdonkey on Jun 20, 2024 17:27:38 GMT
What was "the John Barrowman one on Sunday"? I've looked back through the thread and can't see a reference (may just be my eyes). JB attended one of the performances and posted about it on his IG: www.instagram.com/reel/C8JE0q1R3d6
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Post by blamerobots on Jun 20, 2024 17:33:25 GMT
Given that Brightman has long been far more famous as a singer than as a musical theatre performer, it tells me something about her performance that they haven't, unless I missed it, used clips of her singing Norma's two big numbers to promote the production. Though to be fair, they have never released anything of Nicole signing in Sunset either.or did they and I missed it? She's certainly never sung anything on any tv shows or theatre events either. With that I suspected there was an element of word of mouth planned. Like when she goes out there every night and is that phenomenal the buzz is gonna generate itself. Sneaky audience clips of her singing that drawn out note, etc. all added to that buzz. But in this case, it's to hide the fact she's basically lost it.
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Post by anthony40 on Jun 20, 2024 17:44:48 GMT
Please tell me that when this production does run that there's a dead chimp?
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Post by max on Jun 20, 2024 18:11:17 GMT
What was "the John Barrowman one on Sunday"? I've looked back through the thread and can't see a reference (may just be my eyes). JB attended one of the performances and posted about it on his IG: www.instagram.com/reel/C8JE0q1R3d6Ah, thanks. I'd gone down the route of emergency stand-ins, so I wondered, but didn't quite believe it. Watched his very warm instagram post - almost an advert for 'see it in Sydney'. Seems no speculation/outrage on X/Twitter about non-appearance of featured actors; perhaps reflects general apathy which is even worse.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 20, 2024 20:51:51 GMT
This is increasingly sounding like a sh*t show.
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Post by blamerobots on Jun 20, 2024 21:01:43 GMT
I thought it was gonna be like that from day one!!
It seems there's been multiple cock-ups (as Denis Norden would say!) leading to this production being a massive shot in the foot, and none of it really seems to be any of the actors or design crews fault, more a big issue with the condition of the leading lady and the producers putting too many eggs in one basket I think. Surely the reason this is happening is both a combo of "we must put on Sunset as it is popular again" and SB wanting to be in a show?
Why not wait a year and put on the JL one with like... Tina Arena or something? When that's the one making headlines and people are still out trying to top Trevor Nunn one must feel a bit short-changed!
I doubt actors are dropping out of whole weeks for personal reasons; I suspect there's something more to this all, wait and see.
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Post by Alejo on Jun 20, 2024 21:56:14 GMT
Surely the reason this is happening is both a combo of "we must put on Sunset as it is popular again" and SB wanting to be in a show? Why not wait a year and put on the JL one with like... Tina Arena or something? When that's the one making headlines and people are still out trying to top Trevor Nunn one must feel a bit short-changed!. This production was in the planning before the Jamie Lloyd production opened (when people were cynical of it), so I don’t think it’s a case of jumping on the bandwagon. You only have to read the first page of this thread to see that people expected this to be the superior version. Am I correct in thinking this is the first professional production of Sunset Boulevard in Australia since the original production with Hugh Jackman in 1996? I think it’s reasonable to want to stage a traditional revival of it. But whose idea it was to put Sarah Brightman in it, I don’t know. Did she approach them or did they ask her? But that’s where the problem lies as they’ve marketed the show on her and she’s clearly not up to it. Tina Arena would be much more appropriate for this production than the Lloyd version.
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Post by blamerobots on Jun 20, 2024 22:14:21 GMT
Surely the reason this is happening is both a combo of "we must put on Sunset as it is popular again" and SB wanting to be in a show? Why not wait a year and put on the JL one with like... Tina Arena or something? When that's the one making headlines and people are still out trying to top Trevor Nunn one must feel a bit short-changed!. This production was in the planning before the Jamie Lloyd production opened (when people were cynical of it), so I don’t think it’s a case of jumping on the bandwagon. You only have to read the first page of this thread to see that people expected this to be the superior version. Am I correct in thinking this is the first professional production of Sunset Boulevard in Australia since the original production with Hugh Jackman in 1996? I think it’s reasonable to want to stage a traditional revival of it. But whose idea it was to put Sarah Brightman in it, I don’t know. Did she approach them or did they ask her? But that’s where the problem lies as they’ve marketed the show on her and she’s clearly not up to it. Tina Arena would be much more appropriate for this production than the Lloyd version. Ah, I didn't realize that this was announced before the JL one! And yes, this is the first professional production since the Hugh Jackman one.
Makes me wonder what gave this one the professional go-ahead while the London one was in production. Was this to counter-balance if the JL one flopped?
Still remains that there are some baffling things going on, actors absences and decisions with marketing and casting and such.
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Post by BVM on Jun 20, 2024 23:43:27 GMT
Will she sing? WILL SHE SING?!
Etc etc etc.
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Post by reggieg on Jun 20, 2024 23:57:47 GMT
I’m told the monkey hasn’t missed a show. I have to say I thought the chimp had better chemistry with Paladino than Brightman.
I took in the matinee on Wednesday (Silvie’s only scheduled performance) She is in fine voice, filled with emotion and nuance. She received a rapturous standing ovation at bows.
Billy Bouchier was on as Joe, He also has an impressive voice, is (and plays) younger than Tim, and created an effective and traditional older woman/younger man dynamic with Paladino.
Dean Vince was on as Max, also sang well but seemed a little under rehearsed or maybe it was just first performance nerves.
The ensemble seems tight. They applauded both Bouchier and Vince when they took their bows.
It’s cold and flu season in Melbs so Draxl and Grubb’s absences may be due to illness.
It’s a shame to see it’s not selling better, the audience certainly seemed to enjoy it.
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Post by chernjam on Jun 21, 2024 0:49:03 GMT
I’m told the monkey hasn’t missed a show. I have to say I thought the chimp had better chemistry with Paladino than Brightman. I took in the matinee on Wednesday (Silvie’s only scheduled performance) She is in fine voice, filled with emotion and nuance. She received a rapturous standing ovation at bows. Billy Bouchier was on as Joe, He also has an impressive voice, is (and plays) younger than Tim, and created an effective and traditional older woman/younger man dynamic with Paladino. Dean Vince was on as Max, also sang well but seemed a little under rehearsed or maybe it was just first performance nerves. The ensemble seems tight. They applauded both Bouchier and Vince when they took their bows. It’s cold and flu season in Melbs so Draxl and Grubb’s absences may be due to illness. It’s a shame to see it’s not selling better, the audience certainly seemed to enjoy it. Thanks for the update and some context about why the cast might be out - it's probably rare for Australia to have the internet theatre world all waiting for daily updates like we're used to about Broadway and West End productions. Prior to its opening the producers were definitely happy for that attention - but literally after the first previews it really seemed like any of their PR people, influencers disappeared. If it's a string of bad reviews, bad ticket sales and now bad luck, you have to wonder if it will even make it to Sydney at this point
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Post by blamerobots on Jun 21, 2024 1:33:40 GMT
Will she sing? WILL SHE SING?! Etc etc etc. We're gonna have to be scrounging about for notes on a Sydney transfer..!
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Post by reggieg on Jun 21, 2024 2:40:15 GMT
I’ve heard the Sydney season is selling better than Melbs that but may just be spin.
Sydney hasn’t seen a full production before. I did attend a limited run semi-staged concert version at Luna Park in the mid-2000s which was well received, and successful enough that it came to Melbourne for a five show run the following year where it was also well received and attended.
I can’t help but feel this a repetition of the past… I’m old enough to remember the original Australian production which was befallen by a series of well publicised negative events. Much like now, the leading lady was held to account for the shortfall in ticket sales - I guess it can’t be helped when all the publicity is geared towards Norma's “star turn”, but I can’t help feeling the show just has a limited appeal to Australian audiences.
I hope to go again before it closes, I’ve been waiting 20 years for it to return and given the reception it’s received I probably won’t be around to see it the next time it’s revived.
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Post by max on Jun 21, 2024 7:35:09 GMT
I hope they store the set - built in Plymouth UK, and send it back here for future use....but in a while.
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Post by BVM on Jun 21, 2024 8:35:11 GMT
As I said upthread, am sure that whatever problems Sarah Brightman has singing, I don't think it's the main problem causing poor ticket sales. It's very much a theatre community obsession, not a public one.
I think it just isn't a title audiences down under are that interested in - the mega musical sung through era being long gone. They want Tina/Wicked/Moulin Rouge/Mamma Mia!
Yes Jamie Lloyd scored a massive hit in London but as reported was a lightning in a bottle moment. Other Sunset sales after the Nunn version have generally been lacklustre. A shame as it's without doubt one of ALW's most incredible scores. (Even the JL version may well have failed in Australia; it's not the same as London).
But yeah, doubt the average Joe in Melbs is discussing SB the way we are!
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Post by Alejo on Jun 21, 2024 9:52:53 GMT
I agree that it has limited appeal to a wider audience, but I imagine there is a demographic there to sustain the limited run. And I think they’ve leaned into that demographic by casting Sarah Brightman, with the ALW and 80s/90s musical connection.
I don’t know the general word of mouth there in Australia, but based on reviews and the complete lack of any promotional material from Sarah, people are going to be sceptical.
They should have cast an Australian national treasure as Norma. I’d have flown across the world to see Kylie Minogue do it, whether she could sing it or not. 😂
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Post by mattnyc on Jun 21, 2024 14:27:47 GMT
I was so looking forward to this but ended up canceling my flight/hotel/tickets. Sarah’s been out of the show for almost two weeks now, there’s no way I’m taking that risk traveling around the planet, just hoping she’s in. Hopefully we get some word about whether the Sydney run will happen.
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Post by solangelafitte on Jun 21, 2024 14:55:35 GMT
Why not wait a year and put on the JL one with like... Tina Arena or something? When that's the one making headlines and people are still out trying to top Trevor Nunn one must feel a bit short-changed! God I'd kill to hear Tina do it. This post also got me to look up ages and discovered Tina's closer in age to Sarah than she is Nicole... Which is blowing my '90s Chains-loving mind.
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Post by starlightmagnus on Jun 21, 2024 16:00:59 GMT
But whose idea it was to put Sarah Brightman in it, I don’t know. Did she approach them or did they ask her? But that’s where the problem lies as they’ve marketed the show on her and she’s clearly not up to it. Tina Arena would be much more appropriate for this production than the Lloyd version. She was approached by Opera Australia (she confirms this is one of the Australian TV interviews she did after the announcement) . Opera Australia is to blame for this disaster. They assumed she could perform the role (when she can't) and they assumed audiences will come flocking (which they haven't). The silence from them is also quite lousy. They really should announce what is going on with the show (or perhaps they can't because Brightman isn't giving them a clear indication of her future in the production?) This isn't the first time Opera Australia has had a fiasco on their hands (their ill-fated 2013 staging of the Ring cycle comes to mind) nor the first time Brightman has dropped out of a project without giving an explanation (her 2015 visit to space)
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Post by BVM on Jun 21, 2024 18:41:47 GMT
Why not wait a year and put on the JL one with like... Tina Arena or something? When that's the one making headlines and people are still out trying to top Trevor Nunn one must feel a bit short-changed! God I'd kill to hear Tina do it. This post also got me to look up ages and discovered Tina's closer in age to Sarah than she is Nicole... Which is blowing my '90s Chains-loving mind. Seconded. Vocal icon!
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Post by BVM on Jun 21, 2024 18:43:25 GMT
Anyway the whole hoo-hah has certainly caught TB's imagination.
International threads don't usually get anywhere near 9 pages.....
Is there an Aussie version of TB where we can see what the locals are saying!?
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