Au revoir, auf wiedersehen, adios...

I read the title in Julie Andrews voice

We're all going to hell aren't we?

I should have known it was run by Boris Johnson and Trump

My personal fear is the disintegration of the EU and, eventually, war. So I hope that the EU negotiates a punitive exit deal with the UK, to deter other member states from choosing to leave. I also hope that the North of Ireland votes for unification with Ireland and that Scotland votes for independence and is able to negotiate to remain within the EU. Finally, let us hope that England and Wales suffer the continued decline which they deserve.

EDIT: This isn't a reply to westendwendy!

I think in terms of theatre/arts in general it's a massive blow. There is much funding from European central sources, and much collaboration with European countries which means access to their native sources of funding. This isn't so much an issue for the 'big' players but for the smaller level companies this will I'm sure have a detrimental affect. A tiny case study- I put in funding bids in the last year (in my former job) to 3 central European funders, one Italian and one German.

There's also the European money that gets pumped into regeneration and arts related projects in areas of Britain-the Welsh Valleys have had many many such projects over the years.

Most importantly perhaps is the ease of working across Europe, not just touring etc which is obviously a big help financially without added visas etc etc but also just in terms of knowing there's a freedom of artistic collaboration.

I don't think it will stop the bigger companies touring things like Starlight, because the producers behind will probably swallow any finanical hit. But for smaller companies I think it will have a really negative impact.

Exactly. And there has long been I think a sense by the Government of 'oh well we don't NEED to find the money there because the EU will plug the gap' and now without it, well...

I got told off on Facebook for calling Leave voters idiots today...I think that was an incredibly reserved choice of words personally.

I can't let Europe go. I can't. There must be some way to bring Europe back. Oh, I can't think about this now! I'll go crazy if I do! I'll think about it tomorrow. But I must think about it. I must think about it. . . I'll think of some way to get Europe back. After all... tomorrow is another day!

I had lunch in a pub yesterday and there were a couple of people at a table nearby talking about the referendum. One said that she was afraid an exit might lead to war, but also said she couldn't be bothered to vote. WTF? I don't know what else she had to do that afternoon, but it must have been really important.

At least artists will be inspired by this.

Artists are always inspired in tough times.

It is for the "love of Europe" that it is best that England and Wales dwindle and that the remaining EU strengthens and doesn't destabilise itself further. That is in the longterm security interest of England and Wales.

Presumably equity will have to come up with agreements with Eu countries for exchanges etc as it does with the US. Though until we know what our working rights will be we won't know.

What it means for visitor numbers in the west end could be scary. I wonder if we'll have a boom of people visiting London before we go and then a desert.

Those Hamilton tickets on Broadway just got even more expensive in Sterling terms...

And yet sadly the 'V sign to Europe' appears to have had the desired effect, judging by the quotes from other European leaders today. The majority put a focus on the need for reform in order to bring their people/other peoples along with them, if the EU is to enjoy a successful future.


We can criticise Brexit voters all we like, but the fact is that when Cameron went to the EU and asked for similar concessions, the EU basically put their fingers in their ears and went 'la la la, can't hear you'. Granting some measly concessions on the proviso that you can then revoke those concessions in future hardly inspires confidence in a union or gives the sense that the UK was considered in any way important, does it? They were so arrogant at that point, they never thought we'd leave. So I can understand why some voters would be tempted to take back control (however illusory that control is).