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Post by alece10 on Sept 8, 2023 18:47:51 GMT
Just listened to the radio broadcast. She made some worrying comments which leads me to think I won't like this at all which will be strange as I can't remember the last time I saw something I didn't like. But, you never know, I could end up loving it who knows. Thankfully I've only paid a score for my ticket.
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Post by andys on Sept 8, 2023 19:09:41 GMT
As for the strings, it´ll be keyboards, #dear Fancy keyboard programming! Hand held mics and beatboxing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2023 19:16:51 GMT
Excitement level now at 11.5 Out of 100? Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Post by LaLuPone on Sept 8, 2023 19:40:21 GMT
Agreed she sounds absolutely nuts! I love it.
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Post by mattnyc on Sept 8, 2023 20:16:32 GMT
“For the first time, Norma Desmond’s really gonna share her story”
Huh?
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Post by fiyero on Sept 8, 2023 20:18:38 GMT
The £23.80 seats are very good! Some great seats in the dress circle with a central view. Got a ticket for first preview and now halloween. I’ve just booked a second (it says you can have 2, they assume a pair - I’d rather go solo twice!) ETA: rules are fuzzy enough that you could easily justify 2 tickets per performance!
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Post by SuttonPeron on Sept 8, 2023 21:15:56 GMT
If this means we won´t have Joe as the narrator anymore... big yikes!
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Post by max on Sept 8, 2023 21:34:01 GMT
I think it could work well if the opening lines are shared. Takes away Norma's big entrance later - "you there, why are you so late?". But...
...if this starts with her saying "I guess it was 5am" perhaps we're in Norma's cell or police interview the whole way through. Would like to hear her spit "Before it gets distorted, by those Hollywood piranhas". Perhaps she, Joe, and Max all think they've got "the real facts" and compete to to tell them. I like it.
If this isn't what they're doing then my previously threatened sock puppet version of this will be seen in Covent Garden piazza soon after.
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Post by chernjam on Sept 9, 2023 2:54:25 GMT
Well listening to the interview there's going to be no middle ground here - people will either love it or hate it. Will this be like the revival of Chicago which is still playing? Or another massive miss for ALW? I loved the original which was quite a theatrical experience. The revival was amazing just to hear the music from that 40 piece orchestra - and for that the music really soared. If they have a way of bringing the story to life in a new way that makes it accessible to people in 2023, I'm all on board. But if nothing else, it's definitely going to get people talking
Wonder if Glen Close will attend?
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Post by mrbarnaby on Sept 9, 2023 5:04:36 GMT
I wonder if Patti will attend.
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Post by max on Sept 9, 2023 7:14:55 GMT
Well listening to the interview there's going to be no middle ground here - people will either love it or hate it. Will this be like the revival of Chicago which is still playing? Or another massive miss for ALW? I loved the original which was quite a theatrical experience. The revival was amazing just to hear the music from that 40 piece orchestra - and for that the music really soared. If they have a way of bringing the story to life in a new way that makes it accessible to people in 2023, I'm all on board. But if nothing else, it's definitely going to get people talking Wonder if Glen Close will attend? I'm sure she would if she was in town. There's no threat of comparison when it's performed in such a different way. I don't think this is bidding to be a durable staging, in the way that 'Chicago' was (or turned out to be). As it's Jamie Lloyd it's not going to have that kind of mass appeal. However, if my guesses are right about how it might be framed in a 'poor theatre' way, then it could usher in other productions that do it with minimal set, yet in a way that is logical (i.e. integral to the storytelling, not just falling short on mansion and turban budget).
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Post by max on Sept 9, 2023 7:23:30 GMT
I've noticed that almost all successful new musicals recently (or new productions of old musicals) have a lot of interactivity with the audience. Either through direct address to the audience, immersive qualities, or other kinds of collusion (such as understanding a pop culture within the piece). Things behind a fourth wall are less attractive right now.
By this measure alone (and disregarding any other problems people had with it) 'Aspects Of Love' wasn't stylistically right for the moment.
Of ALW's works, that puts 'Sunset Boulevard', 'Evita', and 'Joseph' out front. 'Jesus Christ Superstar' a bit too - Judas doesn't talk direct to us, as in the other three, but is clearly our contact character, an everyman we can relate to.
Anything could misfire in this version of 'Sunset Boulevard' - but telling us a story direct, with us knowing it's happening right now, in the moment without artifice (aka artifice dressed up as casually punk), is a good start within current tastes.
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Post by justsaying113 on Sept 9, 2023 7:31:57 GMT
Well, the interview is answering quite a few questions we've had.... 1 hour 45 mark onwards - I actually had goosebumps hearing her describe it... www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001pylsI’m obsessed with her lol. She’s utterly bonkers. Can’t recall ever being so excited for a #strippedback (not historically my thing) production. Though bit worried for EP when Scherzy Cats repeats itself and ALW (inevitably) announces to the world that he’s NEVER heard it sung better…. You know it’s coming!
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Post by justsaying113 on Sept 9, 2023 7:34:55 GMT
Lloyd Webber always does that with artists recreating roles. He did it when Elaine Paige played Norma in 'Sunset' and said on her South Bank Show profile that, basically, she sang and interpreted 'As If We Never Said Goodbye' better than the three other ladies who'd played the role at that point. He's just opportunistic but, hey, he's a showman and it's all about selling tickets!
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Post by max on Sept 9, 2023 7:54:19 GMT
Lloyd Webber always does that with artists recreating roles. He did it when Elaine Paige played Norma in 'Sunset' and said on her South Bank Show profile that, basically, she sang and interpreted 'As If We Never Said Goodbye' better than the three other ladies who'd played the role at that point. He's just opportunistic but, hey, he's a showman and it's all about selling tickets! In this case it will probably be true for once, that it's never been sung better (I'm basing this on Nicole's 'Don't Cry For Me, Argentina' on that ITV show, which doesn't I prefer it to Julie Covington, but technically it's perfect to my ears). Whether that 'better' is what's needed, is another thing - character wise, drama storytelling wise. Sounds like she won't be aged up. If she was, I think she'd have reacted to Zoe Ball mentioning that in the interview, but she just let that one go. In which case, the voice she has may match what's needed in this version.
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Post by theoracle on Sept 9, 2023 8:08:54 GMT
Whilst I’ve never been a huge fan of Jamie Lloyd’s work - I was pretty impressed by what he did with The Effect recently at the National. If he can build a sustain that sense of suspense and dramatic tension, he’ll have something the audience can hold on to. Nicole can certainly belt out a tune and I think we’re just going to have to go in with an open mind rather than compare it to what we’ve seen before. I’m now rather excited - my favourite Lloyd Webber musical reimagined for a new generation
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Post by distantcousin on Sept 9, 2023 10:04:06 GMT
Well, the interview is answering quite a few questions we've had.... 1 hour 45 mark onwards - I actually had goosebumps hearing her describe it... www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001pylsI’m obsessed with her lol. She’s utterly bonkers. Can’t recall ever being so excited for a #strippedback (not historically my thing) production. Though bit worried for EP when Scherzy Cats repeats itself and ALW (inevitably) announces to the world that he’s NEVER heard it sung better…. You know it’s coming!
Haha, yes! Poor EP! Traded in for a younger model!
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Post by distantcousin on Sept 9, 2023 10:06:03 GMT
She sounds absolutely mental 😂😂
No wonder Lloyd sought her out for the role of Norma!!!
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Post by BVM on Sept 9, 2023 10:11:38 GMT
She sounds absolutely mental 😂😂
No wonder Lloyd sought her out for the role of Norma!!!
This is what I meant when I said upthread somewhere that people don't need to worry about her acting. She could literally play herself and it's already a Norma Desmond. Not a Trevor Nunn Norma, but #A Norma none the less!
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Post by toomasj on Sept 9, 2023 13:29:05 GMT
My prediction is that people will go to this, having read the thread and known in advance it’s a JAMIE LLOYD production, and still be surprised/disappointed by the staging choices and “set”. Lloyd is good at what he does, but has never once surprised me with a production. They are all the same in feel. Everything I’ve seen and heard confirms once again, in advance, exactly what this show will be.
Some will love it because it’s stripped back, low-key and very stark. Others will hate it for exactly the same reasons.
Seems plainly obvious to me if you like Jamie Lloyd, go and see it. If you hate him, definitely avoid. If you’re indifferent, it comes down to the show’s appeal.
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Post by Rory on Sept 9, 2023 14:27:14 GMT
His house 'style' is relatively recent though, is it not? I remember She Stoops to Conquer, The Little Dog Laughed and the kitschy Doctor Faustus and they all had a full set and not a tiny mic in sight, as I recall.
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Post by danb on Sept 9, 2023 16:00:06 GMT
‘No costumes?’
‘All in your mind’
I was excited, now I’m terrified. Nicole doesn’t really sound like she’s exploring the character, so much that shes been told some things by her friend Jamie and shes just going to do that…in her one costume.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 9, 2023 16:15:08 GMT
Come back Ria, all is forgiven
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Post by Rory on Sept 9, 2023 16:18:57 GMT
‘No costumes?’ ‘All in your mind’ I was excited, now I’m terrified. Nicole doesn’t really sound like she’s exploring the character, so much that shes been told some things by her friend Jamie and shes just going to do that…in her one costume. Yeah, I have to say, having heard her interview, I have now tailored my expectations for October! That said, his Cyrano was stripped back and I absolutely loved it.
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