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Post by danb on Sept 1, 2023 15:20:09 GMT
the marketing manager said they're happening... and i think nicole is standing in front of a giant LED wall in his photo Hes playing a bit fast and loose with the term 'big star' Nicole looks freshly ‘refreshed’ in this photo; almost like a brand new person!
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Post by toomasj on Sept 1, 2023 15:21:56 GMT
There’s a couple of things I really like about that photo.
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Post by Being Alive on Sept 1, 2023 15:33:41 GMT
Fairly sure I'm going to hate this but will be buying a ticket for first preview 😂
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Post by Dawnstar on Sept 1, 2023 16:02:29 GMT
My lasting memory of Jamie Lloyd was having to stand over a pool of mud balancing on a plank and reaching out to check peoples tickets without falling into the mud at one of his shows. It was meant to be immersive! Surely falling into the mud would have made it more immersive!
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Post by mattnyc on Sept 1, 2023 16:09:21 GMT
My lasting memory of Jamie Lloyd was having to stand over a pool of mud balancing on a plank and reaching out to check peoples tickets without falling into the mud at one of his shows. It was meant to be immersive! Surely falling into the mud would have made it more immersive! Maybe you’ll have to swim through Norma’s pool to get to your seats for this one.
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Post by theatremadhatter on Sept 1, 2023 16:53:22 GMT
I'm actually looking forward to this one... As long as there is a nice big orchestra I'll be happy. It really is a great score. I also think Nicole is a great choice in terms of a big star who seems to have been slightly forgotten. In social media terms (not always a solid metric I know) she has a very large following. Much larger than most big names in shows these days. At the peak of her fame she really was a 'name', not to mention her pop career but then hosting TV shows, she won Dancing with the stars (Strictly in America), she's Grammy nominated, Olivier nominated, Disney films... not everyones cup of tea granted but definitely a star. So for me that translates well to Norma and I hope Jamie Lloyd will lean into that parallel. As for the filming and LED walls that seems to go well with Nicole's arena of fame, music video esq. Or perhaps it's seen as all just a movie in her mind? It does start at the end doesn't it and is narrated from Joe as a memory?
Anyway I'll be going to hear that score and orchestra and interested to see a different lens on the productions. ALW clearly is interested in refreshing his catalog and staying relevant. I guess he trusted what Jamie Lloyd did with Evita? Maybe he will take on Love Never Dies next!
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Post by showtoones on Sept 2, 2023 20:43:49 GMT
does anyone know what is lined up for the savoy after sunset Plaza Suite with Sarah Jessica and Matthew
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Post by mattnyc on Sept 5, 2023 15:51:56 GMT
Rehearsal photo. Will Lloyd just have Norma seated the entire show, like Chastain in “Doll’s House”?
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Post by alece10 on Sept 6, 2023 6:51:51 GMT
Rehearsal photo. Will Lloyd just have Norma seated the entire show, like Chastain in “Doll’s House”? /photo/2 I had to look very carefully as the pic with Nicole seated as, at first glance, it looked like she was on crutches and I thought blimey this is going to be a very different interpretation.
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Post by viserys on Sept 6, 2023 6:58:17 GMT
Will Lloyd just have Norma seated the entire show, like Chastain in “Doll’s House”? That looks to me like the scene where she makes Joe watch her old movies with her. There's a second chair (for Joe I guess) and someone (Max?) standing beside them with a movie projector.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 6, 2023 10:05:44 GMT
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Post by ceebee on Sept 6, 2023 10:41:18 GMT
Or: "over 30's, non key workers, non benefits recipients are expected to pay more for no obvious reason".
Discrimination remains in this country, it's just dressed up as worthy causes and covert socialism from otherwise capitalist producers.
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Post by LaLuPone on Sept 6, 2023 10:53:50 GMT
I think it’s a good initiative. Obviously this a generalisation but in general over 30s will be earning more than under 30s. A big amount of under 30s have just come out of uni with £1000s of debt and started at the bottom of the ladder in whatever careers they’ve gone into, so I don’t see how being allowed to buy some exclusive cheap tickets for a west end musical is a bad thing. Also it’s unfortunate but most under 30s are not really interested in revivals of ALW musicals. I’m 22 and absolutely love Sunset so would have paid full price no problem, but most of my theatre friends around my age are just into Heathers and Waitress and whatever other modern stuff Broadway is churning out, but for £20 they may go to this and maybe they’ll love it and then maybe ALW’s more obscure shows won’t die out with the next generation. Just some thoughts.
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Post by Mark on Sept 6, 2023 10:54:25 GMT
"Key Worker" Funny how many who were classed as such during the pandemic are no longer. That said my sister is a teacher so...looks like i'll be asking her when she wants to go .
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Post by A.Ham on Sept 6, 2023 11:04:09 GMT
It’s not hugely clear who falls into the ‘key worker’ category here and I couldn’t find any extra details. For example, I work for a care company so have a Blue Light Card but the closest the descriptions get is ‘social worker’ which to my mind isn’t the same thing!
The ‘food’ qualification is even less clear. The description is definitely open to interpretation.
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Post by punxsutawney on Sept 6, 2023 11:13:40 GMT
Or: "over 30's, non key workers, non benefits recipients are expected to pay more for no obvious reason". Discrimination remains in this country, it's just dressed up as worthy causes and covert socialism from otherwise capitalist producers. Not entirely sure why I'm even dignifying this with a response, but I personally think it's a good idea to incentivise a new generation of theatre-goers, especially for classic productions such as this. Same goes for encouraging those who are currently less fortunate and have to rely on the welfare state, we should be nurturing people's interest in live performance for future years, rather than slamming the door down because they currently can't afford it. That would be how theatre dies.
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Post by intoanewlife on Sept 6, 2023 11:24:32 GMT
Or: "over 30's, non key workers, non benefits recipients are expected to pay more for no obvious reason". Discrimination remains in this country, it's just dressed up as worthy causes and covert socialism from otherwise capitalist producers. Not entirely sure why I'm even dignifying this with a response Me either, but good for you...God loves a trier x
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 6, 2023 11:24:47 GMT
Im wondering what I.D someone working in food production, processing, distribution, sale and delivery will be presenting. There are many many companies big and small involved in those industries, the box office isn’t going to be able to validate all of them. Sounds problematic to me!
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Post by danb on Sept 6, 2023 11:28:51 GMT
Or: "over 30's, non key workers, non benefits recipients are expected to pay more for no obvious reason". Discrimination remains in this country, it's just dressed up as worthy causes and covert socialism from otherwise capitalist producers. Not entirely sure why I'm even dignifying this with a response, but I personally think it's a good idea to incentivise a new generation of theatre-goers, especially for classic productions such as this. Same goes for encouraging those who are currently less fortunate and have to rely on the welfare state, we should be nurturing people's interest in live performance for future years, rather than slamming the door down because they currently can't afford it. That would be how theatre dies. …and why not fill the seats with people who might not otherwise be able to? Many ordinary people are being priced out of enjoying any treats atm due to a combination of the post-covid slump, our crooked government mismanaging our finances and the madness of enforced inflation. Of course its just covert seat-filling, but if they need to, go for it!
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Post by theatrefan62 on Sept 6, 2023 11:42:15 GMT
I think it’s a good initiative. Obviously this a generalisation but in general over 30s will be earning more than under 30s. A big amount of under 30s have just come out of uni with £1000s of debt and started at the bottom of the ladder in whatever careers they’ve gone into, so I don’t see how being allowed to buy some exclusive cheap tickets for a west end musical is a bad thing. Also it’s unfortunate but most under 30s are not really interested in revivals of ALW musicals. I’m 22 and absolutely love Sunset so would have paid full price no problem, but most of my theatre friends around my age are just into Heathers and Waitress and whatever other modern stuff Broadway is churning out, but for £20 they may go to this and maybe they’ll love it and then maybe ALW’s more obscure shows won’t die out with the next generation. Just some thoughts. While the overall student debt might be more, repayments are generally lower for students on the new plan compared to those who did their studies 15+ years ago. And those earning below a certain amount won't be repaying at all. Most under 30s I know have more disposal income compared to over so I've never been a big fan of the under 30s discount. Good idea for the other demographics though. Also agree 'key workers' is such a loose term depending on the situation.
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Post by marob on Sept 6, 2023 11:42:55 GMT
I have a Blue Light Card, but in the past when I’ve looked at this scheme I wouldn’t meet the Jamie Lloyd Company’s definition of a key worker. Maybe they’ve changed it since. But it’s kind of annoying that I wouldn’t qualify when people who work at the same place on vastly higher salaries would.
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Post by leanne23 on Sept 6, 2023 11:51:34 GMT
Having just looked at the exclusive seats page on the production's website, the logic behind who is eligible is bizarre.
'If your age makes you eligible (ie. you are under 30), you will need to attend with people who are also under 30 and also have valid ID. If you are a key worker or receiving government benefits, your companion will not need to show any ID of their own'.
So if I (28) book the tickets, I can only take a companion who is also under thirty...but not my 62 year old KEY WORKER mum. If she books however, anyone can come with her?
Am I reading this right? It seems very odd that a key worker cannot accompany a 30 year old if they're above 30, given that they are otherwise eligible to book a ticket on their own.
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Post by SuttonPeron on Sept 6, 2023 11:55:16 GMT
Also it’s unfortunate but most under 30s are not really interested in revivals of ALW musicals. I’m 22 and absolutely love Sunset so would have paid full price no problem, but most of my theatre friends around my age are just into Heathers and Waitress and whatever other modern stuff Broadway is churning out, but for £20 they may go to this and maybe they’ll love it and then maybe ALW’s more obscure shows won’t die out with the next generation. Just some thoughts. Excellent point. The youngest generations deserve to see more musicals that don´t fall into the "modern" category. Just so they love it too, and want to keep them alive in the future. With some shows having cheaper alternatives, this should have them too. To those who insensitively label this as "discrimination", please do buy full priced tickets.
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Post by ceebee on Sept 6, 2023 11:56:51 GMT
Or: "over 30's, non key workers, non benefits recipients are expected to pay more for no obvious reason". Discrimination remains in this country, it's just dressed up as worthy causes and covert socialism from otherwise capitalist producers. Not entirely sure why I'm even dignifying this with a response Nobody asked you to but you did anyway. Mine is a view, and it runs far deeper than simply bailing out the needy and the worthy. Others have cited the blue light eligibility quandary, and others mention the disparity in student loan interest rates. My point was not particularly political or tribal, it was an expression of frustration at generalised paintball accessibility strategies which are then open to abuse or misuse and fail to reach the very people they are intended to reach, subsidised by the 25% hike at the upper end of typical prices for this theatre. We all thought the excess was going to the Scherz, but clearly there's a bit of a social experiment going on too where people who can afford mid-high priced seats might end up sitting behind a lucky £20 subsidised patron. This in turn might deter those with the means or the money from going in early at higher prices and simply waiting for deals or (shock horror) simply deciding not to go at all. It's a two-way street and it's somewhat cynical to pitch the 5000 cheap seats now at this point where the producers either know its not selling as well as hoped on some dates, or that they wanted to bank their break even before scaling an accessibility deal. Their priority is not access or people, it's profit. By subsidising those less well-off, they risk alienating the folk who pay more for supposedly better seats.
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