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Post by theatrefan62 on Feb 16, 2024 22:25:19 GMT
I see that TheatreFan guy just shamelessly posted a “rumour” about the new tour that he obviously read here, like he’s somehow in the know, but then hides replies when people tell him whatever he’s posting is common knowledge. It’s the absolute lowest form of journalism. He does that all the time |
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Post by stevej678 on Feb 16, 2024 22:29:31 GMT
I see that TheatreFan guy just shamelessly posted a “rumour” about the new Chicago tour that he obviously read here, like he’s somehow in the know, but then hides replies when people tell him whatever he’s posting is common knowledge. It’s the absolute lowest form of journalism. It's not even a rumour! I had the ATG members email announcing the performance dates and on-sale dates for Manchester this morning. |
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Post by mickeyjotheatre on Feb 16, 2024 23:04:25 GMT
Humour me - if something gets alleged on here, does that not make it... a rumour?
More to the point, is it not possible that multiple people have heard the same thing?
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Post by WireHangers on Feb 16, 2024 23:22:18 GMT
Humour me - if something gets alleged on here, does that not make it... a rumour? More to the point, is it not possible that multiple people have heard the same thing? I’ll humour you - if people are getting emails about it then it’s not… a rumour. It’s entirely possible people have heard the same thing, so why hide the replies? |
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Post by mickeyjotheatre on Feb 16, 2024 23:59:03 GMT
Of course it isn't - he basically never posts anything which isn't already confirmed, but calls it a rumour so as not to completely pierce the planned PR strategy for release by announcing it himself.
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Post by mickeyjotheatre on Feb 17, 2024 0:40:26 GMT
The reality is that among a lot of intense personalities, Shaun is perhaps the most kind-hearted in the blogging sphere.
He does more to uplift drama school graduates and off West End Theatre than just about anyone I know.
So many of the accusations levelled on this site are needlessly mean spirited.
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Post by WireHangers on Feb 17, 2024 0:59:34 GMT
Of course it isn't - he basically never posts anything which isn't already confirmed, but calls it a rumour so as not to completely pierce the planned PR strategy for release by announcing it himself. So clickbait? I’ll be honest, you don’t actually seem to have much of a valid point beyond defending your friend. Valiant, but pointless. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Feb 17, 2024 6:14:17 GMT
The reality is that among a lot of intense personalities, Shaun is perhaps the most kind-hearted in the blogging sphere. He does more to uplift drama school graduates and off West End Theatre than just about anyone I know. So many of the accusations levelled on this site are needlessly mean spirited. There’s been no accusations levelled, and nothing has been said that is needlessly mean spirited. It’s perfectly reasonable for someone to express valid criticism of an online journalist. He’s a ‘journalist’ now?!!! He clearly gets most of his content from what we post here. Thoughts? Xxxx |
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Post by showtoones on Feb 17, 2024 7:20:12 GMT
There’s been no accusations levelled, and nothing has been said that is needlessly mean spirited. It’s perfectly reasonable for someone to express valid criticism of an online journalist. Grow up. He’s a ‘journalist’ now?!!! He clearly gets most of his content from what we post here. Thoughts? Xxxx If anyone is in the know…it’s Mr. B…not sure why people come for him…he always has receipts… |
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Post by theatrefan62 on Feb 17, 2024 7:33:46 GMT
He’s a ‘journalist’ now?!!! He clearly gets most of his content from what we post here. Thoughts? Xxxx If anyone is in the know…it’s Mr. B…not sure why people come for him…he always has receipts… I didn't think anyone was? The criticism was of the blogger? The thing with the theatrefan blog is all it ever seems to post is 'XYZ has been rumoured'. That's it, there's no context, credibility or vague source mentioned. Back when whatonstage had a rumour section there was at least some additional information that went with it, no matter how little. And of course another Internet blogger/vlogger who also has received criticism will back up theatrefan. At the end of the day the blog can do what they like, but it doesn't come across as a site of much authenticity or trust, which is quite important for building a loyal following in blogging. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 17, 2024 10:26:45 GMT
Some posts have been moved here from the Chicago thread. Before continuing the discussion please remember our rules about respectfulness towards other TheatreBoard members. Professional criticism of people in the industry is fine but there’s a line. Please don’t cross it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2024 10:36:38 GMT
I see that TheatreFan guy just shamelessly posted a “rumour” about the new tour that he obviously read here, like he’s somehow in the know, but then hides replies when people tell him whatever he’s posting is common knowledge. It’s the absolute lowest form of journalism. He does that all the time He has done it time and time again. To me it loses absolutely any credibility when he has posted something as a 'rumour' that the theatres have already announced the pre-sale date for, and then to hide people's responses that point this out. |
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Post by showtoones on Feb 17, 2024 19:42:24 GMT
If anyone is in the know…it’s Mr. B…not sure why people come for him…he always has receipts… I didn't think anyone was? The criticism was of the blogger? The thing with the theatrefan blog is all it ever seems to post is 'XYZ has been rumoured'. That's it, there's no context, credibility or vague source mentioned. Back when whatonstage had a rumour section there was at least some additional information that went with it, no matter how little. And of course another Internet blogger/vlogger who also has received criticism will back up theatrefan. At the end of the day the blog can do what they like, but it doesn't come across as a site of much authenticity or trust, which is quite important for building a loyal following in blogging. I totally see your point…thanks for clarifying…and you are right…everyone here loves a scoop but rumors without backup are just that and are detrimental when people really have good information to share. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Feb 17, 2024 21:10:09 GMT
He’s a ‘journalist’ now?!!! He clearly gets most of his content from what we post here. Thoughts? Xxxx If anyone is in the know…it’s Mr. B…not sure why people come for him…he always has receipts… I always liked you 🥰 |
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Post by c4ndyc4ne on Feb 17, 2024 21:12:42 GMT
More often than not these days I’m seeing “Theatre Fan shared xyz…” being posted HERE rather than Theatre Fan taking things rumoured on here and posting to Twitter or wherever.
The guy seems to have an in with agents or graduates going up for auditions.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 17, 2024 21:31:17 GMT
More often than not these days I’m seeing “Theatre Fan shared xyz…” being posted HERE rather than Theatre Fan taking things rumoured on here and posting to Twitter or wherever. The guy seems to have an in with agents or graduates going up for auditions. Indeed. And before he stopped posting on TheatreBoard he posted many scoops here. His predictions weren’t always correct but he had a very good record. Sadly some members started slagging him off and he stopped posting here. Understandably. The pettiness and small mindedness of some of our members is disappointing. Let’s move the discussion on please. |
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Post by backtothetheatre on Feb 18, 2024 18:26:12 GMT
More often than not these days I’m seeing “Theatre Fan shared xyz…” being posted HERE rather than Theatre Fan taking things rumoured on here and posting to Twitter or wherever. The guy seems to have an in with agents or graduates going up for auditions. I think people are referring to the fact that rumours get posted on here and hours later he shares it to his social media, which then get shared again on here to show where he got it from. Personally I think it’s very disrespectful to be posting all these “rumours” when people have worked so hard behind the scenes. Having friends in the field it’s exciting for them to finally get to share what they’ve been working on but it gets ruined by people like Theatre Fan who post embargoed information. |
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Post by sph on Feb 18, 2024 19:59:07 GMT
I have a feeling that Theatrefan nowadays gets sent a lot of information and rumours directly from various PR people involved with productions in order to get people talking. The "leaks" and rumours are probably often intentional.
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Post by Dave B on Feb 18, 2024 20:39:00 GMT
Personally I think it’s very disrespectful to be posting all these “rumours” when people have worked so hard behind the scenes. Having friends in the field it’s exciting for them to finally get to share what they’ve been working on but it gets ruined by people like Theatre Fan who post embargoed information.
Are you sure that Theatre Fan has been given the information under embargo?
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Post by backtothetheatre on Feb 18, 2024 21:07:18 GMT
Personally I think it’s very disrespectful to be posting all these “rumours” when people have worked so hard behind the scenes. Having friends in the field it’s exciting for them to finally get to share what they’ve been working on but it gets ruined by people like Theatre Fan who post embargoed information.
Are you sure that Theatre Fan has been given the information under embargo?
There’s absolutely no way that every show across the entire country sends him information and tells him to post prior to the official announcement. I have friends who work in theatre who have purposely kept extremely quiet to try and avoid him finding out. Imagine working so hard on something that you’re excited to share with everyone for it to get ruined by a random person on Twitter that just wants followers. |
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Post by punxsutawney on Feb 18, 2024 22:36:57 GMT
Are you sure that Theatre Fan has been given the information under embargo?
There’s absolutely no way that every show across the entire country sends him information and tells him to post prior to the official announcement. I have friends who work in theatre who have purposely kept extremely quiet to try and avoid him finding out. Imagine working so hard on something that you’re excited to share with everyone for it to get ruined by a random person on Twitter that just wants followers. I would argue that the fact the show is happening being posted before it is officially announced isn't really ruining much of anything for anybody, except maybe the person writing the press release... |
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Post by backtothetheatre on Feb 18, 2024 23:57:24 GMT
There’s absolutely no way that every show across the entire country sends him information and tells him to post prior to the official announcement. I have friends who work in theatre who have purposely kept extremely quiet to try and avoid him finding out. Imagine working so hard on something that you’re excited to share with everyone for it to get ruined by a random person on Twitter that just wants followers. I would argue that the fact the show is happening being posted before it is officially announced isn't really ruining much of anything for anybody, except maybe the person writing the press release... Like I said, as someone who has friends who work in theatre, especially in PR and marketing, it does ruin it. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 19, 2024 7:34:21 GMT
What’s the difference between someone posting pre-announcement on Twitter versus our insiders doing it here? The pre-announcement gossip is a lot of peoples favourite thing about TheatreBoard.
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Post by Dave B on Feb 19, 2024 9:43:41 GMT
Are you sure that Theatre Fan has been given the information under embargo?
There’s absolutely no way that every show across the entire country sends him information and tells him to post prior to the official announcement. I have friends who work in theatre who have purposely kept extremely quiet to try and avoid him finding out. Imagine working so hard on something that you’re excited to share with everyone for it to get ruined by a random person on Twitter that just wants followers. Ah, I see. The use of the word embargo suggested, at least to me, more uh dishonest approaches i.e., that someone was given an embargoed press release and posted it anyway. Posting a rumour from here or a friend who auditioned or anything like that isn't anything to do with an embargo. Yesterday is a really good example actually. One of the main sites accidentally posted the casting for Devil Wears Prada early. That was a breach of an embargo (even accidentally). Anyone who subsequently shared that information here or on Twitter or anywhere was not under any embargo and can share that as much as they like.
Several posters here share info well in advance, I don't think any of them have 'ruined' anything anyone has worked hard on...
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 19, 2024 10:14:38 GMT
And if producers and their social media teams weren’t so effing annoying with their pathetic non-tease teasers people might feel a bit more sympathetic towards them.
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