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Post by 49thand8th on Mar 1, 2020 16:19:25 GMT
Trying to decipher your post,49th and 8th which I am taking as another personal dig at me I can't stop you feeling how you feel, but it wasn't. It's something I've thought for years and it's all about knowing when it's appropriate to express one's apathy or dislike for something someone else in your proximity loves.
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 29, 2020 21:50:10 GMT
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 29, 2020 21:48:30 GMT
Welcome back!
I just saw Emojiland last night. I didn't hate it, and the cast was charming, but it certainly wasn't for me. Do you ever see a show that feels like it was in reverse-engineered from a pamphlet? “It’s cute and sweet on the surface, but tackles depression, bullying, and xenophobia!” That's Emojiland.
If you can, see Cambodian Rock Band off-Broadway at Signature. I think it's mostly sold out, but will be well worth whatever ticket you can scrounge up.
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 29, 2020 21:38:03 GMT
I can think of at least four shows I've seen on of off-Broadway in the past few years that I either hated or didn't like and that have enthusiastic, vocal fanbases.
Why would I go into a thread (or a hashtag) about it and talk about how much I didn't enjoy it, much less talk about how I don't understand why they do what they do with their friends concerning this show? Who cares? It makes them happy and it's not for me. Two things can be true and the third thing, being a jerk, doesn't have to happen.
“I know what you're against. What are you for?” — Emile de Becque
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 28, 2020 20:44:45 GMT
Hey, lay off! Some people's one-trick ponies are BEAUTIFUL!
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 28, 2020 19:48:15 GMT
I'm not offended at all. I just was curious about your reasoning! I also proofread for a living, so this was actually just a clinical curiosity.
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 28, 2020 19:36:26 GMT
Well it was neither Kevin Clay nor Robert Colvin last night, nor Alex Hatton. It was Tom Dickerson from the ‘ensemble’. Why the quotes? He's literally an ensemble member (Elder Young) most nights.
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 28, 2020 15:33:31 GMT
Was the musical based on a novel? I may give it a go. I believe the novel came afterwards, but it definitely helps to get inside the characters' heads. It did. It came way after. (Released May 30, 2017. The show opened in Washington DC in the summer of 2015.)
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 24, 2020 16:54:48 GMT
"Appeal to" is different than tailoring something to.
Jersey Boys is definitely for the Baby Boomer set, but their kids have gone along and enjoyed it as well.
All that to say, I don't think anyone should feel pressure to defend a piece of entertainment that they do or don't like. And sometimes you can't even explain why you do or do not like something else. Sometimes something speaks to you! Other times t didn't! It's fine. The world moves on.
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 24, 2020 16:33:26 GMT
And I wasn't all that hot on Spamalot, which is another reason I'm surprised by my own liking of Mormon!
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 24, 2020 15:57:13 GMT
That is fascinating! I've seen it all around the world and the demographics seem to be a lot of teenagers/mid-20 types. Until you get to the more expensive seats. Then it's like the husbands who get taken there by their female partners and hopefully converted to musical theatre fans. (Like a younger Jersey Boys.)
A friend who saw it in previews on Broadway said the audience was a lot more "South Park bro" at the beginning and then it became more traditional musical theatrey.
Anyway, no, it wasn't for you. I think we get that. (I have felt similarly at Be More Chill, Tuck Everlasting, The Lightning Thief, and Dirty Rotten Scoundrels.)
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 24, 2020 15:31:48 GMT
A message to the BOM fans...Instead of telling non-fans why you think we don’t like the show,perhaps one of the fans can explain why you ARE fans...I would sincerely like to know👂 I haven't told anyone why *I* think they don't like the show, but I'll take a stab at this. I like enjoy dark and/or heavy musicals. I've seen Les Miz over 80 times and I'm somewhere in the 20s for Phantom. But I also have a small piece of me that likes dumb stuff like MTV's Jackass. I've never really been into South Park, but that wasn't the draw for me. Many of the jokes in BoM are silly and very quick. I first saw the show before the cast recording even came out so much of it was a surprise to me. I enjoy a nice satire and Stephen Oremus parodying himself with his own orchestrations, especially in "You and Me" tickled me. I like the score, which I didn't expect since I'm not much of an Avenue Q fan. I'm not white (FWIW I'm not black either) and "I Am Africa" is my favorite song in the show. I love the skewering of the white savior complex. (The entire ending is basically a dream so you don't have to assume the entire village got converted to Cunningham's off-brand LDS faith, either.) I'm not a fan of some of the racial insensitivities and I'm not entirely sure had I seen the show two years later I would be the fan I am now. I don't find the show all that shocking — sure, there are peepee and poop jokes, but I tend to think anyone who finds those too much is the same kind of person who whispers "toilet paper" when they tell someone what they have to go out and buy that day. There's a big difference between "this was terrible" and "this wasn't for me," and it'd be nice if more people could figure out how to express that better.
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 23, 2020 21:55:23 GMT
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 23, 2020 20:57:23 GMT
"Standing ovations are rude" is not quite the take I was expecting, but OK, you do you! They're rude towards the people behind you, because you force them to stand up if they want to see the finale/bows/whatever you're blocking them from seeing. Nah, you can sit if you like!
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 23, 2020 20:56:54 GMT
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 23, 2020 4:32:31 GMT
Am I the only one that really likes it? ;-; I know you're being hyperbolic, but clearly, no, a show doesn't run this long nor does it have this many productions if it only has one fan.
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 23, 2020 4:28:52 GMT
"Standing ovations are rude" is not quite the take I was expecting, but OK, you do you!
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 21, 2020 22:38:38 GMT
"We" can do whatever we want.
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 21, 2020 20:54:48 GMT
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 21, 2020 20:17:04 GMT
Here's the screencap from her instagram story.
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 20, 2020 19:06:06 GMT
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 13, 2020 21:07:43 GMT
We're having a goodbye party for the best boss I've ever had, whose last day is tomorrow. Sad! But the snacks are good!
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 7, 2020 15:57:12 GMT
Twitter is full of people saying 'no sh*t Sherlock' but I was genuinely surprised - is this one of those things that everyone knew but me, or are people on Twitter just being A**holes? The first type of reaction is always the worst. What good does it do to react this way? I'm not even talking about the celebs who will never see it. I'm talking about your closeted friends (and you likely have at least one).
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 6, 2020 17:02:24 GMT
And, just posted: www.theensemblist.com/blog/2020/2/6/especially-the-dancersI don’t believe dancers or ensemble members are being explicitly targeted as the punching bag for Broadway, but that it is merely a way of thinking, engrained within the community, that ensemble members and especially dancers are less than. It is reflected in our paychecks. It is reflected in contract negotiations. It is reflected in casting choices. It is reflected in injury reports. It is reflected in rehearsal hours. It is reflected in conversation. It is reflected in the promotion of the Hamilton film. The ensemble are the people who have your back on stage when everything inevitably stops working. We can still be a swirling gorgeous hurricane with no turntable. We can be three people in one scene. We can move those sets. We can pick up that prop that broke during our next kick-ball-change. We can clean the dog piddle on center without being noticed while your lead is belting in a spotlight. The point is, the ensemble can do a lot, especially the dancers. Any exclusion of us, however small, by our own community, is a message to the fans and to future performers that ensemble members don’t really matter. We do.
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 6, 2020 16:59:51 GMT
I think she's entitled to point out that it isn't the full OBC, but not to make the song and dance out of it that she has. She chose to leave, but chose not to make that clear, and that's where I think she misjudged this. It is the full cast though, no one cares who the back up dancers are x And that's a yikes from me!
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 5, 2020 21:22:23 GMT
There were plenty of fans already pointing out that Elizabeth Judd and Hope Easterbrook are in the film but not the OBC. This was just an insider's cherry on top.
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 5, 2020 20:27:18 GMT
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 5, 2020 19:49:51 GMT
They didn't really cast the film so much as film it at the last possible moment that the OBC principals were all still there.
I don't think it's that she wishes she were in it but that the language were more precise.
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 5, 2020 19:03:41 GMT
www.betsystruxness.com/hamilton"Hamilton being my 6th Broadway show in as many years, burning the candle at both ends was catching up to me. My body hurt. I found the show schedule frustrating and limiting. Performing 8 shows a week was losing its luster. I needed a break. About 6 months into the Broadway run, I was fairly angry most of the time and too tired to be almost anything but miserable, which were major indicators to me that I needed to move on, so I turned in my notice and left the show, ultimately at the apex of its popularity. To this day, I have never regretted that decision even though it meant not performing with the cast at the Tony Awards. Hamilton ushered me into full adulthood and with adulthood come priority shifts that one never dreams of as a child, when dreaming of taking centerstage on Broadway. I had finally accepted wanting both something more and something gentler at the same time. It was completely the correct decision."
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 5, 2020 18:04:19 GMT
And sour grapes or not, it's worth reading the comments from other Hamilton cast members (some OBC, some not) in that post.
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