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Post by spathzthecat on Jul 2, 2022 14:06:20 GMT
I would assume it will be a show that is in one of the larger theatres. According to the news we are now in the 5th wave of COVID.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2022 14:17:34 GMT
I'd say based on how easy it is to ticket tickets, and at a discount I'd say Back to the Future possibly in the first half of 2023.
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Post by spathzthecat on Jul 2, 2022 14:22:04 GMT
Just checked OMG!, and that's 2022 Olivier award winner as well
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Post by Being Alive on Jul 2, 2022 14:39:44 GMT
I would say we'll soon be looking at Back To The Future, Pretty Woman (although I know that is definitely off early 2023) and Jersey Boys as the next three to go.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jul 2, 2022 18:22:08 GMT
& Juliet
Only Fools and Horses
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Post by Mark on Jul 2, 2022 21:30:44 GMT
All 6 of the above by end of next year I’d say for sure.
I believe Only Fools is due to close at the end of current booking period if murmers are to be believed.
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Post by inthenose on Jul 2, 2022 21:33:55 GMT
I'm hearing sales have tanked at OFAH since Paul Whitehouse left. They didn't even stunt cast to replace it, simply promoting his understudy (Andy Mace), so yes, I think those murmurs may be right.
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Post by Jon on Jul 2, 2022 23:08:19 GMT
All 6 of the above by end of next year I’d say for sure. I believe Only Fools is due to close at the end of current booking period if murmers are to be believed. I'm honestly impressed OFAH is still running. |
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Post by Matt on Jul 2, 2022 23:11:46 GMT
All 6 of the above by end of next year I’d say for sure. I believe Only Fools is due to close at the end of current booking period if murmers are to be believed. I'm honestly impressed OFAH is still running. You underestimate the popularity of Only Fools and Horses. |
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Post by inthenose on Jul 2, 2022 23:21:23 GMT
All 6 of the above by end of next year I’d say for sure. I believe Only Fools is due to close at the end of current booking period if murmers are to be believed. I'm honestly impressed OFAH is still running. I loved this stage show just as much as I love the series - people are very attached to OFAH and it has done outstandingly well. No doubt when it closes it'll go on tour and do equally well. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2022 5:57:35 GMT
All 6 of the above by end of next year I’d say for sure. I believe Only Fools is due to close at the end of current booking period if murmers are to be believed. I'm honestly impressed OFAH is still running. Really? Probably the most popular TV show across generations for the last what, 40 years? And to be honest away from here I've heard nothing but positive things about it. I think it really delivers for its fan base. It also seems to attract people that don't really go to the theatre |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2022 7:52:49 GMT
I’m amazed that & Juliet haven’t announced closure yet. When I saw it again in May it was still in great shape but the Saturday evening show was empty, and was like that most Saturdays that month. That was with Keala. The one show that consistently surprises me as a long runner is Book of Mormon.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2022 8:14:40 GMT
I’m amazed that & Juliet haven’t announced closure yet. When I saw it again in May it was still in great shape but the Saturday evening show was empty, and was like that most Saturdays that month. That was with Keala. The one show that consistently surprises me as a long runner is Book of Mormon. Yes I'm surprised about &juliet too. It never seems to be sold out and discount tickets (in excellent locations) seem to be easy to get |
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Post by danb on Jul 3, 2022 9:08:39 GMT
Yes, but they’re not ‘that’ discounted are they? The show clearly has a pretty manageable break-even and if they are continuing to run at it they’ll be fine. The Shaftesbury is one of the only ‘independently’ owned W/E theatres so doesn’t run in quite the same way as others, and is happy to have a long running moderate success rather than the run of ‘three monthers’ that it used to be known for.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2022 9:14:07 GMT
I'm just going off day seats and how easy it is to get excellent stall seats at £25. It's how pretty much every I know has seen it. You maybe right of course but compared to other shows top seats seem easy to come by, possibly the easiest of all west end shows
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Post by chadexx on Jul 3, 2022 10:06:09 GMT
I believe they are recasting & J so that does not suggest an imminent closure~~~
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Post by johnie21 on Jul 3, 2022 10:36:15 GMT
I don’t think Tina will be closing anytime soon.it brings in a lot!
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Post by cezbear on Jul 3, 2022 10:36:48 GMT
I believe they are recasting & J so that does not suggest an imminent closure~~~ Tell it to the Cinderella cast... I don't actually think they're closing &J just yet and I hope it has longer yet, but I am constantly amazed at how poorly sold it is. |
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Post by distantcousin on Jul 3, 2022 10:47:30 GMT
I’m amazed that & Juliet haven’t announced closure yet. When I saw it again in May it was still in great shape but the Saturday evening show was empty, and was like that most Saturdays that month. That was with Keala. The one show that consistently surprises me as a long runner is Book of Mormon.
Yeah, the popularity of Mormon escapes me. I thought it was terrible.
Is it one of those "popular with people who dont' like musicals/never normally go to the theatre" shows that tap into a whole other demographic that most other shows don't?
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Post by distantcousin on Jul 3, 2022 10:48:37 GMT
I would assume it will be a show that is in one of the larger theatres. According to the news we are now in the 5th wave of COVID.
What's COVID got to do with it?
There's the little matter of a cost of living crisis, which is infinitely more significant.
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Post by nevervane on Jul 3, 2022 11:58:19 GMT
I'd say based on how easy it is to ticket tickets, and at a discount I'd say Back to the Future possibly in the first half of 2023. idk it's pretty easy to get discounts on everything atm. Seems like my today tix app is pinging me with a massive discount on a major show once a day right now. If we apply that logic most of the theatres will be empty by the end of the year I think rising covid + cost of living makes discounting an unreliable harbinger these days |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2022 12:12:36 GMT
I would assume it will be a show that is in one of the larger theatres. According to the news we are now in the 5th wave of COVID.
What's COVID got to do with it?
There's the little matter of a cost of living crisis, which is infinitely more significant.
Yes I think the cost of living is a far bigger thing. Its not just theatres, I know quite a few leisure venues that have noticed a drop, especially families. I think the majority are now comfortable with living with covid so it factors far less than the cost of things. Plus the striking makes it harder to plan as you may not actually be able to get to London. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2022 12:15:59 GMT
I'd say based on how easy it is to ticket tickets, and at a discount I'd say Back to the Future possibly in the first half of 2023. idk it's pretty easy to get discounts on everything atm. Seems like my today tix app is pinging me with a massive discount on a major show once a day right now. If we apply that logic most of the theatres will be empty by the end of the year I think rising covid + cost of living makes discounting an unreliable harbinger these days I get where you're coming from but at the end of the day discounting is discounting regardless of the reasons. And producers overheads will be going up too, like everything else, so any show having to discount is vulnerable. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2022 12:30:17 GMT
Regarding the recent announcements of Dear Evan Hansen and Come From Away, does anyone know if it was the producers that decided to end the run, or was it the theatres that gave them notice to leave? (Mary Poppins was always intended as a limited run, apparently, and Cameron probably already had other intentions for the show and the theatre).
I only ask as most shows are struggling to sell out at the moment, so if it was the theatre owner's decision, were sales so bad that they are confident that a new show will provide them greater audience numbers?
*EDIT* I'm probably answering my own question here, but I've just remembered that both Dear Evan Hansen and Come From Away are also closing on Broadway, which suggests that the producers have decided to close. But still interested to hear if anyone knows differently.
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Post by Mark on Jul 3, 2022 12:45:51 GMT
I only ask as most shows are struggling to sell out at the moment, so if it was the theatre owner's decision, were sales so bad that they are confident that a new show will provide them greater audience numbers? *EDIT* I'm probably answering my own question here, but I've just remembered that both Dear Evan Hansen and Come From Away are also closing on Broadway, which suggests that the producers have decided to close. But still interested to hear if anyone knows differently. There is quite a long lead in time for both shows (6 months notice for Come From Away, for example), which means it pretty much generates buzz again around the final 6 months, and means those who have been holding off and those who want to see it again have a timeframe to rebook. I would guess particularly for Come From Away it will see very strong sales in its final few months. |
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Post by spathzthecat on Jul 3, 2022 12:54:26 GMT
Cats in Vienna closed as well I see
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Post by danb on Jul 3, 2022 13:39:42 GMT
I'm just going off day seats and how easy it is to get excellent stall seats at £25. It's how pretty much every I know has seen it. You maybe right of course but compared to other shows top seats seem easy to come by, possibly the easiest of all west end shows Apologies. I meant pre-booking rather than day seats. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2022 14:26:44 GMT
Cats in Vienna closed as well I see I'm not sure it was ever planned to be a long-runner. It's not uncommon in Europe for musicals to play seasons, running from September to July, and this has had three seasons now since September 2019 (albeit not all full seasons due to lockdowns), which is a good run. (Incidentally, it was the same set as the Paris revival, which only ran for one season, from Oct 2015 to July 2016.) Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame opens in the same theatre in September. |
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Post by viserys on Jul 3, 2022 14:27:11 GMT
Cats in Vienna closed as well I see That was always a limited run. The theatres play from autumn to next spring, then close for the summer break. It's extremely rare for a show to be extended for a second year. And of course Vienna was also blighted by the very long Covid closures which much stricter rules and longer closures in winter than in London. |
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Post by Jon on Jul 3, 2022 21:21:32 GMT
A show doesn't need to sell out every performance to make a profit.
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