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Post by viserys on Jun 12, 2017 12:00:29 GMT
If they bring the tent back for us, then I hope they bring the vodka shots back too. I'd only sit in something as ghastly as the Lazarus tent again if it came with free vodka. Served by Josh Groban.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 12:24:29 GMT
Sorry if this has already been mentioned but what's the deal between Glenn Close and either Patti LuPone or Bette Midler? There seems to be a long-running feud or something that everyone knows about except me haha
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Post by eatbigsea on Jun 12, 2017 12:38:53 GMT
Well, I'm pleased CFA didn't get completely shut out. But I would very much have preferred that it win Best Book as opposed to Best Direction. Rachel Chavkin did some really groundbreaking work with Great Comet, and I really hated DEH's book.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 12:42:33 GMT
Sorry if this has already been mentioned but what's the deal between Glenn Close and either Patti LuPone or Bette Midler? There seems to be a long-running feud or something that everyone knows about except me haha Patti was the original Norma in Sunset Boulevard in London and Andrew Lloyd Webber told her she'd take it to Broadway. Glenn Close did the LA production and because she was the bigger star, he decided to take her to Broadway instead. Patti held a grudge for many years because Glenn didn't reach out to her. They're okay now though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 12:49:02 GMT
Sorry if this has already been mentioned but what's the deal between Glenn Close and either Patti LuPone or Bette Midler? There seems to be a long-running feud or something that everyone knows about except me haha Well, the Glenn and Patti one stems back from 'Sunset Boulevard'. When The Lord took the show to Broadway, he opened with Close although he'd promised Patti the Broadway run. She sued. She won. She bought a house with the proceeds and named her swimming pool 'The Andrew Lloyd Webber Memorial Pool'. Patti had a beef with Glenn following that until they met at the Kennedy Center Awards honouring Barbara Cook years later: “I did see Glenn after all that controversy and there was a great deal of controversy and a great deal of silence on Glenn’s part. I did see her at the Kennedy Center Awards because we were honoring the great Barbara Cook. As luck would have it, I sat at Barbara’s table with everybody else that was performing for Barbara and there was an empty seat right next to me. [Glenn] said, ‘I had nothing to do with it’ and we hugged. And it’s that easy, that you can get rid of years of that anxiety.”
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 12:49:27 GMT
If they bring the tent back for us, then I hope they bring the vodka shots back too. I'd only sit in something as ghastly as the Lazarus tent again if it came with free vodka. Served by Josh Groban. If it's that cold again I'll need the Vodka (and Groban) to keep me from freezing to death.
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Post by viserys on Jun 12, 2017 12:51:01 GMT
haha, I remember, I was close to stealing the blanket Michael C Hall was lying under before the start
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 12:53:11 GMT
haha, I remember, I was close to stealing the blanket Michael C Hall was lying under before the start I was close to just lying under him....
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Post by Dawnstar on Jun 12, 2017 13:04:06 GMT
I'm pleased for The Play That Goes Wrong & disappointed for Groundhog Day.
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Post by sherriebythesea on Jun 12, 2017 14:31:19 GMT
Aw, you go to sleep, dear. You sound cranky. I was very cranky. I'm sorry if that carried over to my post. In regards to the show itself, I enjoyed when I was first watching it and loved when Spacey did some of his impersonations but then I started thinking, "Yea, I get those references but I'm 62 years old". And the several "in the closet" references were really annoying. Really? Who cares? So I think the show really took a step backwards from last year. It's turned back into "Yes, this is your Grandma's Tony show". However, seeing the songs from the shows has made me determined that, once I'm back from London trip, that I will start going to NY to see some shows. Not sure if I can even do once a month. The train fare alone is $100. Will have to be for a matinee as the train schedule doesn't allow for evening show also.
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 12, 2017 14:34:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 14:47:25 GMT
Can we also agree David Hyde Pierces performance was possibly one of the worst ever for the Tony Awards. Bette was there and healthy, she could of performed any number from the show. Or even have Gavin perform something. When you choose to perform an initialy cut song, theres a problem. I blame Scott Rudin really, he pretty much just shrugged and slapped the other shows in the face by saying we can perform the worst song in the show and still have a box office hit. Its actually pretty disgusting,
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 12, 2017 14:53:42 GMT
I know you don't literally mean "can we agree," but no. Rudin doesn't need to sell tickets for the period Bette's in the show. I felt kind of bad for DHP having to try to sell that to an audience well beyond what he usually does 8 times a week, but it was commendable given the context. Also, you don't know that "Bette could" have done anything.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 14:56:08 GMT
'Last year's Tonys proved a tough act to follow. Sunday's show, which was hosted by Kevin Spacey and crowned Dear Evan Hansen and Bette Midler as the big winners, was down a steep 31 percent from 2016. Overnight returns from Nielsen have the CBS telecast averaging a 4.7 rating among metered market households, essentially tying the numbers from five years ago. That's still not likely to be enough to help it top the surging Stanley Cup final on NBC. No one expected this year's show to pull a bigger audience. Heat around the 2016 Tonys was rather unprecedented and, thus, presented an insurmountable ratings bar. By the time the Broadway kudos rolled around to crown Lin Manuel Miranda's Hamilton, the musical was already such a cultural phenomenon that it was credited with the 15-year viewership high.' www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/tv-ratings-tonys-lose-steam-hamilton-buzz-1012489?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+thr%2Ftelevision+%28The+Hollywood+Reporter+-+Television%29------- Seems the buzz around Dear Evan Hansen isn't even slightly close to what it was/is for Hamilton. Not even with Bette included.
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 12, 2017 14:58:44 GMT
No, it's not, and I found this year to be a bit of a relief. All four nominated shows were more or less balanced, and all four nominated shows really didn't have a BIG SONG that would work well out of context save for DEH, somewhat. I knew this would be less of a blowout, but that's not necessarily a bad thing, right? It's fine for the Tonys to be a little niche. Its appeal always going to be geographically and financially dependent in a way (are you near NYC/do you have $ to get here and see shows if you don't).
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Post by theatremadness on Jun 12, 2017 15:00:15 GMT
Can we also agree David Hyde Pierces performance was possibly one of the worst ever for the Tony Awards. Bette was there and healthy, she could have performed any number from the show. Or even have Gavin perform something. When you choose to perform an initialy cut song, theres a problem. I blame Scott Rudin really, he pretty much just shrugged and slapped the other shows in the face by saying we can perform the worst song in the show and still have a box office hit. Its actually pretty disgusting, I admit that I was thinking along the same lines as you (though maybe not as extreme), but then callum did make a rather good point about it all: RE Bette, they wouldn't cough up the cash for the whole rehearsal process (presumably they wanted her to do Hello Dolly itself which requires full staircase set, costuming, big ensemble), and it didn't make much sense for Bette to do that much preparation. They don't need the promotion for the show (sold out for months) and it plays into the exclusivity of the whole thing. The only way you can see Bette as Dolly is to buy a ticket! And once I saw it from that perspective, you do see how it could be a bit of a savvy business move. DHP is popular enough and yes the song is a nothing, but who cares. No one is going to Dolly to primarily see DHP & that song, so no matter how bad it was, it will have put no one off because it's all about Bette. And it's totally true that sales and promotion are the absolute least of their worries. The exclusivity is also another valid point, too, so as much as they might as well have had no Dolly performance, what they did do won't harm anything, that's for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 15:00:58 GMT
No, it's not, and I found this year to be a bit of a relief. All four nominated shows were more or less balanced, and all four nominated shows really didn't have a BIG SONG that would work well out of context save for DEH, somewhat. I knew this would be less of a blowout, but that's not necessarily a bad thing, right? It's fine for the Tonys to be a little niche. Its appeal always going to be geographically and financially dependent in a way (are you near NYC/do you have $ to get here and see shows if you don't). Definitely not a bad thing. If a Hamilton-level show came along every year then it wouldn't have been so special when it did. Just thought it was interesting to point out some perspective for those that think Dear Evan Hansen could transfer to the West End and easily be a sell out success like Hamilton has been.
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Post by ali973 on Jun 12, 2017 15:02:31 GMT
Seems the buzz around Dear Evan Hansen isn't even slightly close to what it was/is for Hamilton. Not even with Bette included. Of course not. Outside of the theatre community, no one knows (or cares) what a DEH is. Hamilton (and Book of Mormon, to a lesser extent but still so) reached out to a group of the public that would never consider seeing a Broadway show.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 15:11:12 GMT
Sorry guys, I don't mean to be extreme about the Dolly performance, but it was just embarassing to watch. If not Bette, it should of been Gavin. That is the more entertaining of the Supporting Roles in my opinion, and he could of had a moment in the spotlight to prove why he deserved that Tony.
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Post by ali973 on Jun 12, 2017 15:15:02 GMT
I agree with Danieljohnson14.
It could have been another number, like It Takes a Woman, Before the Parade Passes By, Waiter's Gallop..
But I think they didn't want to reveal any of its going on at the Shubert Theatre. Penny in My Pocket virtually has no staging, and is done in front of the curtain as an Act II opening. There is an air of privilege and exclusive access for people who actually have tickets to see the show live. Notice how there's no official press videos or trailer for the production. I think the producers just want to keep it this way, and virtually reveal nothing of the fabulous staging, at least not for free.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 15:21:07 GMT
I agree with Danieljohnson14. It could have been another number, like It Takes a Woman, Before the Parade Passes By, Waiter's Gallop.. But I think they didn't want to reveal any of its going on at the Shubert Theatre. Penny in My Pocket virtually has no staging, and is done in front of the curtain as an Act II opening. There is an air of privilege and exclusive access for people who actually have tickets to see the show live. Notice how there's no official press videos or trailer for the production. I think the producers just want to keep it this way, and virtually reveal nothing of the fabulous staging, at least not for free. See in my heart I can see that is what should be coming off, but my head is just telling me it comes off as arrogance and Scott Rudin being a bit of a *fill in the blank with whatever adjective you wish*, fueled also by him inviting 40 odd people on stage and just saying "I'm gonna break the rules..."
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 12, 2017 15:21:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 15:36:56 GMT
Oh he sounds delightful. I'd like to see him try and cross Patti LuPone.
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 12, 2017 15:49:33 GMT
Veering topics a bit, I love this photo Lea Salonga tweeted:
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Post by ali973 on Jun 12, 2017 17:18:26 GMT
Okay so I just watched the entire thing (fast forwarding through the performances..there's something so sterile about these performances at Radio City).
A few observations: -Kevin Spacey. Never again, please. I didn't get (or care for) any of the references he made. Opening number is not bad but could have been 3 minutes shorter. -Gavin Creel's boyfriend is in the ensemble of Waitress -Petina Miller looks great pregnant -Christian Borle is gay. I've said it once and I'll say it again. First of all, he is. Second of all, look at the guy sitting next to him (he's date?). Third of all, he was married to Sutton Foster. -Bald Christian Borle putting on a wig as full-haired Christian Borle gives me life. -Bette Midler should have pulled a Julie Andrews. I feel it wasn't even fair competition to the other ladies. -When she's off social media, Cynthia Ervio is truly #BlackGirlMagic. Take her phone away. While you're at it, take Trump' phone away too. -In a parallel universe, I want Glenn Close to present Patti LuPone the Tony Award.
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Post by callum on Jun 12, 2017 17:22:41 GMT
Well, there was a video posted in the Dolly thread recorded by an audience member of Bette doing the title number but it was swiftly taken down. I guess that'll be the closest thing to seeing it live if you can find a version online. But after seeing it myself this week, it is an absolutely exquisite production, Bette is worth every cent you can spend on seeing her, but I do hope it's recorded and preserved for the future near the end of the run because it is very special.
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 12, 2017 17:30:56 GMT
-Christian Borle is gay. I've said it once and I'll say it again. First of all, he is. Second of all, look at the guy sitting next to him (he's date?). Third of all, he was married to Sutton Foster. WTF
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Post by ali973 on Jun 12, 2017 17:45:31 GMT
Yea I can see how problematic that could sound, but I was just trying to be gossipy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 18:01:20 GMT
-Christian Borle is gay. I've said it once and I'll say it again. First of all, he is. Second of all, look at the guy sitting next to him (he's date?). Third of all, he was married to Sutton Foster. WTF I agree, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he were gay. Its like, that dude who was married to Liza, we all knew he was gay! Who wouldn't marry a gay icon!
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Post by couldileaveyou on Jun 12, 2017 18:04:12 GMT
Am I the only one who thinks Christian Borle is ugly? Like, great biceps, yucky face
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