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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 28, 2021 18:34:48 GMT
The case numbers will come down the more people have their second and first jabs, the data is always catching up. The thing that should be the test is deaths and hospitalizations, don't forget one of the biggest point of this lockdown in the first place was mostly to protect the NHS. There are always going to be cases, there might often be spikes in cases, but unless this results in large numbers ofs deaths or the nhs being overwhelmed I do not see why this should delay liftings or reinstating restrictions. We can't control what other countries do and they will be losing out too with a lack of UK tourists, so that's up to them. We can't also base these decisions just on the travel industry, yes it might have a negative impact on that industry but not lifting restrictions has an impact on many many more, including btw the one this forum is actually supposed to be about...
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 28, 2021 11:29:03 GMT
Once everyone has been vaccinated there's honestly not a lot more that can be done, people and the economy can't survive just continuous lockdowns every time there is a spike or new variant so it's right to me that the end of the lockdown is the end of the lockdown. He says they will be careful before they decide to do that and indeed they have been by delaying it by 4 weeks and bringing the vaccine target forward to match the new date. I also didn't hear him guarantee the July date so don't know why his comments would be mocked if it didn't happen. I don't know what else people want them to do. We have to now live with this and I'm afraid just accept a certain amount of sickness and mortality. Btw aren't Labour calling for clarity as well? Everybody won't have had two shots until September at the very earliest, so still talking like July is the end of restrictions is potentially dangerous. Well maybe it is but then you are asking places and people who struggle to survive even this 4 week delay to now potentially wait another 2 to 3 more months. I'm afraid that total public health and safety at all costs isn't the be all and end all of these decisions, other things have to be taken into consideration and a balanced decision made and in my book lockdown fully ending when everyone has had their first dose and probably up to 75% of the willing population (and all the most at risk groups), their second, is a perfectly legitimate and probably over balanced decision.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 28, 2021 11:01:55 GMT
Once everyone has been vaccinated there's honestly not a lot more that can be done, people and the economy can't survive just continuous lockdowns every time there is a spike or new variant so it's right to me that the end of the lockdown is the end of the lockdown. He says they will be careful before they decide to do that and indeed they have been by delaying it by 4 weeks and bringing the vaccine target forward to match the new date. I also didn't hear him guarantee the July date so don't know why his comments would be mocked if it didn't happen. I don't know what else people want them to do. We have to now live with this and I'm afraid just accept a certain amount of sickness and mortality. Btw aren't Labour calling for clarity as well?
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 28, 2021 9:54:59 GMT
Quick question for anyone who experienced a sore arm after the jab...how long did it last for? I had my jab nearly two weeks ago and I still get some moments where my upper arm/shoulder feels sore and achey, i mean it's been like it all this morning so far. Anyone I ask in real life says that it only lasted a couple of days for them so I don't know whether to be a little concerned?
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 27, 2021 8:10:53 GMT
I've always found him to be a rather likable and competent seeming politician and think he's quite a good choice actually.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 26, 2021 10:16:27 GMT
Nothing will happen to Hancock until the next reshuffle, which might just be brought forward to save his face a bit, rather than sack him outright now or make him resign. Equally a lot can be said for the tactic of simply digging your heels in and ignoring it and waiting for something to blow over, even if it takes a while, which has worked quite well for governments in the past actually and indeed this one. The Cummings castle thing ended up becoming more a meme than something a lot of people were really seriously bothered about a few months later.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 26, 2021 9:49:30 GMT
Is there an excuse for a slack or thrown together seeming 2nd act though given that they had so much more time to work on this than originally planned? You might have thought they would have had the opportunity to go back over the show to make sure everything was as well developed and polished as possible already.
That said, I'm looking forward to seeing it myself maybe in maybe July/August when hopefully restrictions are lifted. I don't really feel ready to come into London for a trip yet.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 22, 2021 21:15:24 GMT
The good thing about programmes getting that expensive is that it puts you off buying and wasting your money. I used to buy a programme to every show i saw, even if they were £10 like this, but decided that on my return to theatre after covid i'm not going to buy them any more. They really are a waste if you don't do anything with them, mine are just in big storage box under the bed and it almost brings be out in hives now to think how much that box of paper cost me over the years! It did feel a bit of a wrench not to buy one when i returned to the theatre the other week but if they are going to be £10 in places then I think that will help!
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 22, 2021 9:47:37 GMT
I loved the big dance sequences and fantasy elements. Generally, I thought it was great if not a little too long and the sound was way too smooth and polished for my liking. I'll watch it again though as anything that name checks Chita Rivera gets my vote. I'd like for the Usnavi & Sonny relationship to be examined in more detail. To me that's far more interesting then some of the other narrative. The sound was my only complaint really, I just never thought it was dynamic or thrilling enough, especially in the big songs and dance sequences when you want to feel immersed, the sound always was just a little too subdued for me and I constantly wanted to just turn it up and and slap a bit more bass into it. I thought that it was just my cinema/screening though so that's why i never mentioned it, but maybe it's just the mixing for the film in general.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 20, 2021 12:49:46 GMT
Ben did most of the lighting at Curve, but not quite as much recently because he's in demand in the West End now, he's doing Joseph and Heathers at the moment and did most of the Palladium pantomimes over the last few years.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 20, 2021 7:29:08 GMT
Why would it just be down to him to "mention" that when these meeting also include the Chief Medical Officer, Chief Scientific Officer and no doubt reps from the NHS? I thought they were there to present and discuss the data with the PM.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 19, 2021 19:44:16 GMT
LOVED LOVED LOVED it. Jon M Chu really understands musicals on film in a way that Tom Hooper has no concept of. Makes me very excited for what might happen with the Wicked movie (if that ever gets made...!) Cast were pretty much all superb (although I wasn't hugely keen on Nina). Thought Anthony Ramos did a super job, Daphne Rubin Vega was great (although she's had some serious help in post production re her voice because she's never been able to sing like that!) And the Mr Softie cameo was GREAT. There were two numbers in it that I think are two of the best movie numbers of all time (carnaval and 96,000). I laughed, I cried, and I can't wait to see it again. So many movie musicals to come this year and I can't wait (even for DEH which I can't stand!) All the big production numbers were just stunning. The work that must have gone into them. It was really a spectacle to watch, and yet also the intimate moments really brought you back down again. It really was great.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 19, 2021 18:50:43 GMT
Really enjoyed seeing this today, lots of changes from the stage show but good to have the film a bit different. Thought everyone sounded fantastic. Will definitely be back again to see this. One thing that it did mean though is the fact that we don't learn that Claudia wins the lottery until right toward the end, meant for a lot of lyric changes. I'm not too sure that change was necessary because i'd guess a large proportion of the cinema goers are already familiar with that point from the stage show. I also missed Camilla as a character, and of course the cut songs (Enough in particular, but also Sunrise). I think they could have squeezed in a shorter Inutil aswell.
Oh, and dont you just hate it when small children talk all the way through? Why take a 5 year old to see this? Can't blame the kid, but parents should atleast tell the children to be quiet. Lots of people kept shushing them and they left about an hour into the film. {Spoiler - click to view} Wow I never even noticed they had gone! Of course now it's been mentioned I remember them from the show but I didn't miss them at the time. Now i remember Sunrise I really like that one so wish it could have been included, but nevermimnd!
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 19, 2021 18:28:32 GMT
And now we await the inevitable (?) announcement of the online tickets. If they haven’t recorded this for streaming I’ll be 100% shocked. I wouldn't have said it was one the cards but given they now cancelled/postponed Rent I'm wondering if they might have decided to quickly pull together a filmed version to stream, get some of the revenue in and actually have something 'on' over the next few months.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 19, 2021 18:23:40 GMT
I really enjoyed it this afternoon. The cinematography and visual look of the film is just stunning, I loved the fantasy elements and the choreography, especially the big group numbers were just spectacular.
I thought Anthony Ramos was sensational, so likable, you were really rooting for him and he had an amazing aura about him. I also loved Melissa Barrera as Vanessa and Corey Hawkins as Benny has a fantastic voice. Olga Meridiz as Abuela was lovely.
It didn't disappoint me at all and this is defo for me something that works even better on film.
And all for free because of the lottery promotion! Lovely!
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 19, 2021 10:47:34 GMT
Any walk ins around? My second jab on Sunday was cancelled so I turned up yesterday. Explained situation of cancelled appointment and was straight through. Definitely worth trying as 13 weeks is too late Not as far as I know. Try ringing the 119 number, also try your local hospitals. I don't know if it's the same in your area as mine but vaccination at hospital hubs are separate from the options you get on the NHS website . I phoned 119 last night, before booking online, as I was worried because the website said you had to book both jabs, and from what they were saying it seemed that they could only see the same availability on the NHS website as I could. I haven't heard that my local hospital has been doing vaccinations at any point. Most major city centre hospitals should be vaccine hubs as far as I know, so it's worth maybe googling your local major hospital and covid vaccine see if any details come up or ringing them.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 19, 2021 7:56:40 GMT
Having had my last-minute first jab on 8th April at a nearby medical practice I've been waiting to hear from my practice as to when I can book the 2nd jab, as I'm now over 10 weeks since the first. Today my mother had a phone call from her doctor about other issues & at the end asked him when I'd be contacted. Turns out the local practices are no longer doing vaccination. So I looked up the NHS covid website for appointments in Cambridge. Apart from tomorrow, which is impossible as we are having to self-isolate before my mother has a procedure done in hospital on Monday, I can't get an appointment until the 2nd week of July. By that time it'll be over 13 weeks since I had my 1st jab. So much for people being told to get their 2nd jabs sooner! Try ringing the 119 number, also try your local hospitals. I don't know if it's the same in your area as mine but vaccination at hospital hubs are separate from the options you get on the NHS website .
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 19, 2021 7:51:00 GMT
ALW has consistently been fighting Theatres corner throughout this, I don't even care if it was for his own shows or business that he was doing it for deep down because it still represented theatre generally, he was the one taking part in the vaccine trials, he was the one completely transforming his theatres to showcase all the safety measures that could be in place for the government, he was the one putting on the first trial events, he was the one giving evidence to the select committee and he was the one, as one of the biggest MT names in the country, on TV all the time keeping theatre in the media. It's also fair to say that ALW'S impact on theatre and the theatre industry over his lifetime have contributed, even in a small way, to any director/producer/creative being able to be where they are today and quite frankly AL should show more respect. It's also laughable that AL, as someone who seems so interested in new MT, would have been calling for a boycott of a major NEW MUSICAL.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 18, 2021 17:42:41 GMT
I don't think we need people in the Theatre industry slagging each other off. I'm afraid that I think AL without the W on the end comes across worse with comments like that imo.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 15, 2021 11:29:12 GMT
Just a heads up to anyone who's not seen it yet, which seems about only 2 percent of the board somehow, if you have a lottery ticket or scratch card or buy one by the weekend you can go to the cinema FREE this weekend. Just Google lottery cinema weekend or something and it will come up with the details. I've done it for Saturday and it didn't cost me a penny, I already get a scratchcard each week anyway.
It can be an old ticket or card you have lying around or if you dont want to buy one and spend that pound then you could ask friends or family for theirs, you just need the ref code from one.
Of course this is for any film not just this and so I'm sure will be of use to all.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 15, 2021 7:51:09 GMT
She set up a tuck shop and library for the rest of the cast but comes across as "hard work"? It seems quite like a nice and thoughtful thing to do if you ask me but I suppose that doesn't fit the narrative people like to have about her.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 15, 2021 6:47:44 GMT
If ALW didn't support the party he did then nobody would be batting an eyelid about this and you know it, that's all this is down to. People not liking his politics and so making a fuss. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. Cinderella is clearly one of the most obvious theatre shows to pick for a trial as a new musical trying to open that's already had to delay and so what if ALW has been pushing for it even behind the scenes? Who wouldn't if they could. And where has he said that now he can open one of his shows he doesn't give a toss about the rest of the industry? He literally hasn't and that accusation is absurd. There will clearly be other shows as part of this trial and so I don't know why everyone is acting like its some special treatment and only he will get this chance. The only reason that we know about Cinderella first is because the prime minister was ASKED about ALW and Cinderella.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 15, 2021 6:40:23 GMT
If people choose to wear one that's up to them and they can even be strongly advised by the government, but they should not be mandatory after everyone has had a second dose in September. That's my view and it's not changing.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 14, 2021 18:23:49 GMT
I'm sure that there will be other shows part of the trial.
Cinderella has always been a high profile case as a major brand new musical trying to open during this time and so can see why it would be one of the first in line to be part of a trial scheme in order for it to finally open.
Though I won't be attending before 19th July personally whatever.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 14, 2021 18:20:33 GMT
Just noting that we’ve known for some time that temperature checks are a pointless bit of pandemic-theatre - you can be contagious and not have a temperature at all. Early on they seemed like a useful test, but we’ve learnt a lot more since then. The surface cleaning is probably also pandemic-theatre at this point - evidence is strong that you are very unlikely to pick live virus up from touching a surface. BTW, does anyone else find it weird in a restaurant when they present you your cutlery on a tray and ask you to pick it up? It’s not Beauty and The Beast - the knives and forks didn’t dance their way onto the tray under their own steam… And pubs where they ask you to take the drinks and food off their tray? I mean who put them on there in the first place....
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