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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 26, 2021 16:43:21 GMT
I think it's a bit difficult to really get into it when it mostly happens in the middle of the night and you can't watch most of it live. It's also a bit strange so far with no spectators and I imagine that will most be felt during the athletics when there is going to be a whole 60,000 seater stadium empty for things like the 100m final which is always such a massively atmospheric moment. Of course I'm still enjoying it and getting behind Team Gb though.
I always just think back to London 2012 now whenever i see or hear anything about the Olympics, it was such just a special time, I will never forget it, I honestly well up sometimes when I think about it or see clips from it. One the biggest regrets in my life so far is not going to watch something in person and experiencing it first hand.
However I do plan on attending The Birmingham 2022 Commonwealth Games, which seems to be flying a bit under the radar for saying it's going to be a home games and pretty big event.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 25, 2021 12:07:56 GMT
Do you need to be trained to be able to dance or pull off some moves?
As I said it's earlier it's about getting the community involved again on stage, which Curve do for most of their Christmas musicals, quite normal. It's just a Curve quirk. I think this is all a bit moany for moany sake.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 25, 2021 9:21:27 GMT
Well do note it says the word "local" dancers, which in my mind only puts this in the same category of their ongoing community projects that they have bee doing for years, giving talented local people the opportunity to put on a show or be part of a production, in the same way they give local kids the opportunity to the same and appear in their shows, like they do every year in the Christmas show. I'm not seeing any difference. There hasn't been the opportunity for two years to put on a community production so it seems like this is killing two birds with one stone because it also means they don't have to pay out for 10 cast members who don't even speak or have any major role. It's easy to say "just pay professional actors" well yes but this is also a business that hasn't been able to operate fully in the last two years and came close (a lot closer than many people think) to having to close, so.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 22, 2021 13:51:31 GMT
I'm there with bells on.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 20, 2021 7:59:59 GMT
How is it going to be policed though? Fine for theatres and concerts ect where people greet you at the door to check tickets ect anyway but what about in pubs? Somebody is going to now have to stand there all day checking every single persons covid status?
Also what about cafes and such? Even coffee shops like Pret or costa? There too? Because they can be just as busy as a pub or restaurant, especially if there is seating, there is very little difference. McDonalds? I mean where does it stop. It will be interesting to see the published list of settings where it needs to be in use.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 19, 2021 17:17:17 GMT
Surely the hope would be though that soon enough so much of the population has been double jabbed that it won't actually be needed anymore. I think this just shows that it's not quite at the levels they are comfortable with at the moment, especially it seems with the younger age group. So hopefully this results in a sudden surge of jabs and we won't have to do it for very long.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 19, 2021 17:04:26 GMT
I don't know this would be the case if the uptake in younger categories was higher, apparently 35% of 18-30yr olds haven't had a jab and only a small % of that, you would assume, is down to them just not having their appointment yet given the pace of the roll out over the last few weeks and months.. It seems to me that this vaccine passport scheme now is at least in part to try and force them to get a jab, seeing as that age group would be very likely to want to go to clubs and concerts ect.
I'm fine with this, if people aren't getting a jab, do something to make it so they can't enjoy life without it.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 19, 2021 11:25:57 GMT
Based on experience at work (in retail) and on the bus this morning it feels like mask wearing was still taken up by the vast majority.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 18, 2021 7:48:08 GMT
It's ridiculous to have to go around for years to come taking measures like mask wearing to mainly protect a tiny minority of people who can't be vaccinated, I sympathize with those who can't have it but nobody can surely expect the whole population to take steps to help protect those few people they may never even come into contact with. As for those who refused it, then there's no reason at all to help protect them, that's their fault.
After all the people who want it have have been double jabbed, then everything should go back to complete normal. It's the best it's going to get. For any other disease you get a jab to help protect you and then go about your normal lives, like we have for hundreds of years.
For clarity I WILL be wearing a mask from Monday and I don't go out anywhere crowded I don't have to, I've not been going to the theatre or anything and won't be until my 2nd Jab in mid august is effective, so i guess probably September , so the accusations of me being some sort of "i don't care" attitude person is completely wrong, but my limit really is when everyone gets their 2nd dose because I don't see how it gets better than that, that's the point where I and everyone else is as protected as they can be and I think we just need to bite the bullet and go back to normality.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 17, 2021 14:14:38 GMT
I dont think constantly calling people selfish is going to help them comply. This type of name calling really needs to stop.
Making people wear masks for any time after the vaccination programme has reached all who will take it is clearly unjustfied.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 17, 2021 5:54:20 GMT
There was some talking down of the AZ vaccine in the thread earlier, a new study takes a positive stance, all we know is that all vaccines provide protection which is borne out in the fatality figures being incomparable to current infection rates. www.thesun.co.uk/news/15605950/astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-lifetime-protection/No vaccine is a 100% but if vaccinated unless you have an underlying condition your risk of being hospitalised is significantly reduced whichever vaccine you have. I consider vaccination in the same way as I consider seat belts and air bags in cars, will they save my life in most accidents Yes, enough to stop me following the Highway Code No, therefore I am confident the vaccine will protect me from serious illness but not enough to stop me following the guidelines for social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing….. Forever more?
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 17, 2021 5:52:12 GMT
What's becoming quite clear is that very little changes on Monday, things might be changing in Law but businesses are basically expected to keep all existing rules in place and I imagine they all will in the main. It's certainly no "freedom day" and I'm afraid I've lost all hope of there ever being one. Guttingly it seems this is as good as it gets. I know, brilliant isn't it? That so many businesses are putting the safety of their staff and customers first despite what the Government say. We only have to wait until everybody has, or has been offered, both jabs, which is only a few weeks away. Well it can be seen as good if that's all it lasts for, what I was suggesting there is I don't think it will only last that long.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 15, 2021 13:39:39 GMT
What's becoming quite clear is that very little changes on Monday, things might be changing in Law but businesses are basically expected to keep all existing rules in place and I imagine they all will in the main. It's certainly no "freedom day" and I'm afraid I've lost all hope of there ever being one. Guttingly it seems this is as good as it gets.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 14, 2021 17:26:04 GMT
Therss going to be more chance of dying by being hit by a bus going to the theatre itself than from dying of covid because you've been in one, but if prople want to be hermits because theres a new risk added to the hundreds there already are you happily take every day without thinking, then thats up to them. Is that true? Well once everyone has been vaccinated fully then deaths will certainly end up getting to that point yes.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 14, 2021 15:49:09 GMT
Theres going to be more chance of dying by being hit by a bus going to the theatre itself than from dying of covid because you've been in one, but if people want to be hermits because theres a new risk added to the hundreds there already are you happily take every day without thinking, then thats up to them.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 14, 2021 9:47:04 GMT
I can't decide if the govenrment are fools, murderers or both. I hope anyone who has a relative die of covid post-19th July despite being vaccinated sues the government for manslaughter/murder. I'm terrified that my mother will get covid when having to go to the numerous medical appointments she's having to attend at the moment. Meanwhile I'm abandoning hope of being able to set foot in a theatre ever again. I'm sorry.."ever again"? Why on earth not?!
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 14, 2021 9:46:30 GMT
Fine, as long as these companies still making them mandatory will lift that rule in September once everyone has had a 2nd jab, because it won't get any better than that and there will be no justification.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 6, 2021 3:21:32 GMT
Does everything need to be literal? Surely there doesn't need to be actual set to show everything in theatre and one of the points of it is that it can use creativity, dance, costume or props ect to portray things or hint at a sense of setting/scenario? I thought how they portrayed things like the water and the blood ect were very nicely done.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 5, 2021 16:54:59 GMT
What is the difference between December/January and the end of September when you and everyone else would have your 2nd vaccine? You've been saying these measures need to stay until everyone has had their 2nd vaccine but now are saying you still won't be happy to do anything for several months after that either? But for some reason will be in December? I'm confused. If everyone had the same idea then good luck finding a theatre that isn't closed! As I believe Johnson kept emphasising, it's my personal choice. I respect the choice of others who choose not to wear masks even if I vehemently disagree with them, it just means that I will stay away from a lot more people and avoid going out as much, ironically the opposite of what Johnson wants. What is the logic behind your personal choice though? The difference between attending a performance in a theatre at Christmas compared to in September/October? I'm just trying to figure out why you would feel safer when your immunity would be the same and all the conditions in the theatre would be the same.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 5, 2021 16:45:52 GMT
So we really have gone from 'data not dates' to 'lift every single restriction all at once'. Interested to see if theatres announce anything now Johnson has confirmed they will be allowed full capacity. I certainly won't be in a packed theatre too soon, panto will be the earliest. What is the difference between December/January and the end of September when you and everyone else would have your 2nd vaccine? You've been saying these measures need to stay until everyone has had their 2nd vaccine but now are saying you still won't be happy to do anything for several months after that either? But for some reason will be in December? I'm confused as to what will be better for you then. If everyone had the same idea then good luck finding a theatre that isn't closed!
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 4, 2021 21:07:48 GMT
I should think that it would be be very obvious that those who haven't yet received a 2nd dose in particular might want to voluntarily take measures to protect themselves until they do. Well if you think it's that obvious then clearly you recognise there is still a problem, but are just too selfish to agree that those who are fortunate to have been double vaccinated should have to wait a few more weeks until the rest of us catch up before everyone can act like nothing has happened. You seem to assume everyone is talking about keeping restrictions forever, and your attitude is hyperbolic as a result. We're not, we're just asking people not to be selfish and to have a bit of patience for a few more weeks until everyone's been double jabbed. That really shouldn't be difficult either to understand or to do, unless you decide to be selfish. Well "people" don't control the laws and guidance from the Government or it's expert Advisors, so nobody is beings selfish by ending their precautions when we are told we can. If you have an issue with the decision direct it at the people actually making it, not people who are simply going to follow the guidance that is set out and if it remained a mandatory measure then we'd comply still. Nobody will be breaking the law or defying important safety instructions here. BTW I'm one of the people who won't have had a 2nd dose by 19th July myself.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 4, 2021 8:20:22 GMT
People are still going to get it. People are still going to get sickness from it. People are still going to die from it. All whether there are safety measures or not. You might be pinged, I might be pinged, any of us might be pinged, but I'm not calling for us to carry on with these measures for months and years to come just because of that possibility or inconvenience. So yes, it is a good idea. Anyone not happy about these measures being lifted can easily carry on with these measures at their own leisure it doesn't need to be a law surely and I should think that it would be be very obvious that those who haven't yet received a 2nd dose in particular might want to voluntarily take measures to protect themselves until they do.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 3, 2021 7:21:20 GMT
Well the data is behind, it will come down, things might seem bad at the moment but scientists and ministers will be basing this on the projection not the data we are seeing now. We won't eradicate deaths from covid, they will still happen no matter what, so yes it's a price to pay for a completely normal life and btw nearly 20,000 people a year die of Flu and we didn't see people calling for masks and social distancing because of all the deaths from that. How do we know how many of those lives would even be saved by continuing to wear masks anyway!?
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 30, 2021 8:51:03 GMT
My friend in Germany said they have a QR code for being double vaccinated. Can visit hotels, bars and restaurants etc with the code. Everybody has it and it has given them more freedoms than us. Mind also said... it’s made things as normal as they can be right now. We had 15 new cases in Hamburg yesterday and the incidence rate is 9/100,000. Obviously can change very quickly with the delta variant but there’s legislation here too that if that number hits 100/100,000 things automatically shut down again. Liverpool was 335/100,000 yesterday... Automatic lockdown at a particular case rate sounds like a good idea to me, especially given our government has acted too late on pretty much every possible occasion for the last 16 months. Absolutely not. Lockdowns in the future should be based on hospitalization and death rates rates. It's absurd to lock down if 100/100,000 people have got infected but hardly anyone is being hospitalized or dying. Of course it should be kept an eye on because if they end up rising to massive levels then that might mean a level of hospitalization and death that isn't acceptable, but otherwise, absolutely not. Again people get sick of something every day, there are viruses people catch every day, in their thousands, nobody bats an eyelid. By 19th July everyone will have had their 1st Jab, the majority of people and all most at risk people would have had a second, there is very little else that can be done. We simply just have to live with this and accept infections, some illness and some death.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 29, 2021 8:28:08 GMT
There are multiple illnesses and viruses around that people don't even think twice about possibly getting ill from, you can still get the flu you know at a younger age yet we don't all say that we must all get a flu jab otherwise we should be in a lock down because some age groups aren't protected from getting sick and it's not fair. Younger people are less at much less risk of getting serious disease and dying and in that case, with even every one of that younger age groups having some protection from the first vaccine, then I really don't see an argument for not re-opening fully, and I'm in that younger age group myself so none of this "old people don't care about us" business. This idea that every single person should have had both vaccines before we get back to normal is completely absurd to me. In any case, it's not happening, we will be out of lockdown (as far as we are being told at the moment) on July 19th whether people like it or not. If people are worried they can take personal responsibility and carry on wearing masks and social distancing and not going out as much, that is up to them, you can still do all these things if you feel you need to without them being forced on everyone else too. As we have have been told many times before on this thread, these things are "mild inconveniences", so what exactly then is the problem with those who feel the need to still take those steps still doing them whilst allowing everyone else to go back to normal? Do you really need there to be a blanket rule on the entire population?
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