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Post by showoff on Sept 18, 2017 10:37:20 GMT
Saw this today. Got a cheap ticket in the back row of the stalls but huge chunks were unsold so everyone moved forward. I enjoyed it. Beautiful dance routines. Loved the staging. Loved Ashley Day. Yes he is cheesy but it works. Loved Jack Wilcox on as Adam as I'm a fan of his anyway. Zoe Rainey was also superb. I did enjoy it a lot but would I go back? Probably not. Did I go back to 42nd Street? Yes. Can two dance shows in big barns survive? I hope so but I'm not sure. Is it that bad? So I'm guessing if I wanted to see the matinee last minute, there would be enough tickets for decent seats the day of or the day before?
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Post by showoff on Sept 17, 2017 20:31:42 GMT
Ooops, just read they've been bumped from second to last row, to second row in dress. This is surely an upgrade if anything, even if it's now on the side. Although if you phone up to complain about it, no doubt they'll quite be happy to exchange for seats further back, no doubt the biggest complaint will be those who were near the front being moved towards the back. It's the issue of being moved to seats that are potentially going to have a restricted view. Obviously no-one can say for certain either way at the moment, and I hope that in the refurb they'll have thought about minimising restrictions. I'm grateful to have tickets at all, but I'm not going to pretend that it won't be disappointing if I end up with a restricted view, when I booked my original seats in order to have a 'full' view of the stage/set. Anyway, these new seats aren't even definite yet, and wherever I'm sat I can't know what the view will be like until I'm actually in the seat, so I shall just hope for the best. The boost you have from being near the front will most likely far outweigh being central at the back. The view at the very back is usually obstructed anyway, because there are just so many people in front of you, not to mention people getting up and down during the show, which you get a lot more of in these more popular, far reaching musicals.
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Post by showoff on Sept 17, 2017 18:09:45 GMT
Think this was uncalled for. When people save up to spend a lot of money on a ticket they are entitled to be peeved if they end up getting a restricted view when they originally chose an unrestricted view seat. I half agree with you, however considering what is going on with this, keeping the same row is basically the best result you are going to get, people are not getting similar seats at all, so, although this is less than ideal, it seems to be something everyone is going to have to put up with to some degree. Ooops, just read they've been bumped from second to last row, to second row in dress. This is surely an upgrade if anything, even if it's now on the side. Although if you phone up to complain about it, no doubt they'll quite be happy to exchange for seats further back, no doubt the biggest complaint will be those who were near the front being moved towards the back.
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Post by showoff on Sept 17, 2017 16:39:06 GMT
Is your purse too big for your fifty pound notes? Are your diamond shoes too tight? 😂 I wonder if this tells us where the additional seats have been fitted in? Think this was uncalled for. When people save up to spend a lot of money on a ticket they are entitled to be peeved if they end up getting a restricted view when they originally chose an unrestricted view seat. I half agree with you, however considering what is going on with this, keeping the same row is basically the best result you are going to get, people are not getting similar seats at all, so, although this is less than ideal, it seems to be something everyone is going to have to put up with to some degree.
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Post by showoff on Aug 2, 2017 20:41:02 GMT
I'm so glad to see others here have found this show, I'm quite late on to it, but just love it, it's so different and clever.
I love some of the songs, my favourite is the same as you OP, the love triangles, it's so well put together, I love that even the guys are worried about her! Also the JAP battle, not to mention the brilliance that is the Sexy getting ready song.
It's a refreshing change of pace to most things you see on tv, I like the diversity of the characters, and they are all so heavily flawed at times, but the musical elements bring it back up. All except Josh, I'm not a fan, he's too 2D, which I'm guessing is deliberate on the writers part, to keep him as this ideal that will make her life so perfect, he cannot really be a real, well rounded person.
So yes, another fan here.
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Post by showoff on Aug 2, 2017 17:06:50 GMT
Has anyone watched the TV show Crazy Ex Girlfriend? It's on Netflix at the moment.
It's a show which includes origanal musical numbers and is quite quirky.
There's some good songs in it, and it's quite good escapism.
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Post by showoff on Aug 2, 2017 17:03:14 GMT
I so wanted to watch this as I love the book.
I recorded it on tivo and had so many to catch up on, but could never bring myself to as I know how grim it is, and I believe they have gone even further in this than the book.
How the world is at the moment, it just seems a little too much.
I hope I can get to it eventually, but it's so long all together that I think I'll wait until they world appears to be a better place.
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Post by showoff on Jul 25, 2017 13:31:47 GMT
I can only comment on Amber in the show. And i only saw her once. I would say her vocals were amazing and flawless and blew everyone away, certainly in the interval that's all anyone was talking about, however i do agree with the comments she could do with putting more emotion into the acting side of the performance, that was something a little bit missing for me. I saw Marisha in The Color Purple concert and emotion wasn't something anyone had to worry about with her, she put every ounce of herself and her effort into the role, so as a performance overall, great, but honestly vocally not for me at all. I would say if you mixed Marisha and Amber together you'd probably have a perfect performer/Effie. I've only seen Amber. As you said, her voice is perfection, truly amazing. From the dress circle though, I got absolutely no performance from her, her eyeline is forever low, so she really doesn't reach back, God knows about those in the God's. I missed something in the performance, as there's so much to play with with Effie.
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Post by showoff on Jun 29, 2017 8:13:18 GMT
From what I saw of it, the theatre looked to be in wonderful condition in the front of house, so much so I remarked on it.
I'm guessing it's for the stage and backstage areas.
It seemed in fine shape, especially compared to the Savoy, which seems very dated now, but not in a good way. Things are looking quite shabby over there.
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Post by showoff on Jun 26, 2017 14:41:31 GMT
I have a question about the London staging of "AIATY". It seems very weird that Effie sings the whole part "stay with me, stay with me, please stay and hold me mr. man, try Mister,, try Mister I know, I now, I know you can", when Curtis already left the building. These are lines about (physical) affection, one would say in someone's face. It doesn't make sense to sing these to yourself. All the other lines in the song have some kind of "broader" meaning, but these do not. Basically, Curtis walks away on the exact wrong point so the verse does not make sense anymore. The moment where he walks away in the OBC is right after that verse, on the accent in the music, which is so much more powerful. Can anyone explain this odd choice? Yes, I agree. I found the staging quite off putting though. The mirrors on the table were quite high, I just felt they distracted me, and like you say, those words should be pleaded to someone who is there still.
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Post by showoff on Jun 20, 2017 18:06:56 GMT
The Dominion is also a barn though, so it's meaningless to compare with any other show. I don't understand the need to be so constantly negative in comparing sales! In fact Drury Lane seats 100 MORE than Dominion Therefore not really meaningless And my point was a show with "three thousand five star reviews" Is failing to pack out the venue Any my wider point being this show was always a mistake in that venue If you cannot pack RDL either and have to shut the balcony,surely it was also a mistake to house 42nd Street in that venue as well?
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Post by showoff on Jun 20, 2017 14:00:58 GMT
It is now on TKTS with reduction The seating plans show swathes of unsold seats At least 42nd Street are able to shut off the balcony And move people down a level They have also amended their pricing and the dynamic nature means the discounts on TKTS have been removed for now They would rather offer the same price to customers buying directly a few days ahead The Dominion has no such options Why compare the two? If you have to shut the balcony it's not that different surely? Likewise amending prices too, surely there's not much difference to discounting? I don't see why the need to compare.
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Post by showoff on Jun 14, 2017 10:02:49 GMT
I saw this a couple of weeks ago on a Wednesday. Cannot speak for the balcony, dress was almost full. I had the full cast in their roles.
Really enjoyed the show, but for some reason, just didn't love it as much as everyone else on here. It's brilliant, but just didn't give me that feeling. As a tapper myself, I'd been waiting for something like this for a while.
I didn't mind the weak book, it's nothing that you don't get in a lot of musicals. Although I didn't buy the Peggy and Julian storyline at all, and it kind of creeped me out, he seems overbearing in the lullaby of Broadway, it's strange, he sings it in almost a sinister way and she's sitting there meekly (just my take on it).
One little mistake was they turned Sheena's mic off during her song.
I love the theatre though, I've never been there and loved the saloon. It's very airy and it was a lovely day, everything looked beautiful. No trying to snatch a seat before you go in, there's a lot of tables and chairs. Also audience were impeccable. Not one person moved from their seats in either half, no steward had to run over to someone on their phone. It was so refreshing after a truly awful experience at dreamgirls. The audience was very much older though, at thirty I was the youngest there by a long way. But it was so welcome to have an audience like this one.
I may go back, but I'm not itching to,which puts me in the minority.
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Post by showoff on Jun 13, 2017 20:49:42 GMT
This was so bad, I kind of enjoyed it in a way.
The amount of things they left out was crazy, only to add bits nobody would have called for. Why on earth have the parents sing the last bit time of my life?
She couldn't dance and he couldn't lift her. They had no chemistry at all. They missed out her little speech in his room, Lisa's Hula song, the dance part of them in the studio to love is strange,him kicking down the thing to break the car window. Also her mother doesn't say 'I think she gets it from me', no 'she can't even do the meringue' and he doesn't hit Robbie!
Add in the mum and dad singing, and all of the reworked songs.
It was awful, but I'm glad I saw it in all it's awful glory!
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Post by showoff on May 10, 2017 12:47:13 GMT
I've actually known very well known people post on forums, not just in musical theatre. Goodness me Haven't they anything better to do?? (This is a joke) See the show if you can The production values are amazing And I would hope you would have a lovely time and enjoy yourself Which is after all the main point of theatre! Even if you didn't like every single aspect of it There are some very famous and prominent people with their own forums too, who sign up and become members themselves under a different guise. I am not talking about the theatre world alone here. I know of certain leading stars of shows who have signed up to forums to pretend to be a fan of theirs. People are all the same deep down,all wanting to be lived, admired or agreed with. No matter if they are a star turn, investors or fans. I was looking forward to seeing the show. I just believe that you could maybe go easier on people who have a differing opinion to your own.
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Post by showoff on May 10, 2017 12:31:31 GMT
Oh, I actually think I will love it. It's my type of show, but I don't mind seeing something I'm not going to fall in love with,like TM says, it let's you see what you do love and opens your eyes to other things. No, it's actually the attitude of the producers on here that has firmly put me off seeing the show. I doubt ANY producer of ANY show Will be posting on a message board People involved in shows at some minor or indirect level perhaps Or friends and family of cast Furriers perhaps No one any higher than that I've actually known very well known people post on forums, not just in musical theatre.
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Post by showoff on May 10, 2017 12:03:27 GMT
Some people know the price of everything and the value of nothing. Great minds think alike. I must have been writing my post as yours went up.
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Post by showoff on May 10, 2017 11:56:48 GMT
Well I went last night and was very underwhelmed. I love a tap dance, so I went into this thinking I would love it. Flimsy stories are fine with me, and I absolutely adored Top Hat for its spectacle despite not the strongest book, and I know you shouldn't go in thinking 'because I like x show I should like this one', but not even the tap dancing could make me like this. The story was non-existant. I had never seen the show, but even before it started I just knew how it would end. The cast were average at best. Sheena Easton, nice voice, dull actress. Tom Lister, nice voice again, but just didn't charm me. Norman Bowman, charming and incredibly wasted. Christopher Howell annoyed me, even more did the western guy who seems made about Dorothy. I can't remember the female composer in the shows name, but she didn't wow me either. The only star in this is Clare Halse, a good but not great voice, but a brilliant tapper. I could keep my eyes off of her, and she is genuinely a likeable girl, and with time and more big roles she will be spectacular. The sets were nice, having watched the trailer I was surprised from my row B stalls seat that some of them looked a little flimsy. Maybe my expectations were too high. The train station set and the steps at the end scenes were spectacular to look at - it's a shame they could only be used once in the story though. Dancing very good, the choreography is really one of the few truly brilliant things about this show. It is stunning, even if it did look a bit lost on the stage - a theatre the size of the Prince Edward would have been better in my opinion even though it would probably lack the logistics for the set etc. Also great was hearing a proper orchestra. The forgettable score sounded brilliant, which I guess is something. Overall, a good but not great show. I'm glad I only paid £15 for row B stalls, had I paid more I would have been disappointed, especially as my mind did start to wonder at numerous points. 2.5 stars. If you want to hear a "proper orchestra" Going to a WE show is probably the wrong venue to be attending I am also surprised someone found Top Hat to have "spectacle" In comparison to 42nd Street Then again many people would not be able to tell Primark from Marni And then again, there are some, oftentimes the foolish, who believe that just because something is very expensive, it means it is always of high quality. There is often a very big difference between what something costs and what something is worth.
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Post by showoff on May 10, 2017 11:46:28 GMT
No, it's actually the attitude of the producers on here that has firmly put me off seeing the show. Producers on here? Do you mean other board posters? I was thinking you meant the producers of the show - the people putting it on! Apologies, yes the posters on here, who are financially invested in the musical. Yes, these people are actually turning me off of going with their forceful and often rude remarks towards anyone who has gone and does not believe it to be the best thing on at the moment.
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Post by showoff on May 10, 2017 11:14:33 GMT
To be perfectly honest, I read the post in the exact same way, that it was a cheaper and low quality seat, so the opinion of the poster was therefore less valid. I actually logged on because of it and to say it came over as low class. Everyone should be entitled to an opinion on the show they saw. I'm a little shocked at the response to those who do not gush about the show, it seems the posters pick on that person for expressing how they felt. I have to say, I have tickets for a few weeks time, the producers of this show as represented on this thread have made me reconsider going. It's ugly. Go, really do! You may love it, all I have been trying to proclaim here is that everyone loves different things. I personally like going to shows not knowing if I will or will not like them, it's part of the excitement before hand. Oh, I actually think I will love it. It's my type of show, but I don't mind seeing something I'm not going to fall in love with,like TM says, it let's you see what you do love and opens your eyes to other things. No, it's actually the attitude of the producers on here that has firmly put me off seeing the show.
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Post by showoff on May 10, 2017 10:56:02 GMT
Thank you Tibidabozak97, what i'd give to have up to £20 a week to spare. Though i dont think the comment was meant as a dig at people who cant afford better seats either so that must have taken some reading between the lines. I will try to take a bit of a break from here and it is entirely down to 2 or 3 posters, for now I'm off to block them and hide in my happy place To be perfectly honest, I read the post in the exact same way, that it was a cheaper and low quality seat, so the opinion of the poster was therefore less valid. I actually logged on because of it and to say it came over as low class. Everyone should be entitled to an opinion on the show they saw. I'm a little shocked at the response to those who do not gush about the show, it seems the posters pick on that person for expressing how they felt. I have to say, I have tickets for a few weeks time, the producers of this show as represented on this thread have made me reconsider going. It's ugly.
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Post by showoff on Apr 18, 2017 18:23:29 GMT
'The gold taps' are shorthand for gold-coloured tap shoes. The tap part is whatever normal metal is used. The red coat for "Plenty of Money" is part fur part fake fur and was made, not hired from Cosprop or Angels. I see, but that doesn't make any sense as to the other persons posts, gold coloured tap shoes are not 'no expense spared', they can be the same price, or cheaper then pkain black.
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Post by showoff on Apr 17, 2017 16:37:47 GMT
Are the gold taps actually solid gold? I wouldn't have thought so. Gold's a terrible metal for making pretty much everything apart from extremely fine wires. It's stupidly soft and nearly twice as dense as lead. I suspect it won't even "tap" and will just "clunk" instead, but I don't seem to have enough gold lying around to try it out. That's what I thought, as an experienced tapper, I wouldn't think gold taps would be any use at all on tap shoes. Some of the things stated in this thread seem an absurd waste of money when it is so hard to keep a musical in the black, if the money really has been spent in that way. But then again, I'm not one of those people who believes throwing money at things, be they musicals or shoes, automatically makes it of superior to anything else, a lot of the time it's either a waste of money or a company seeing someone coming. Anyway, I am looking forward to seeing this next month, for the musical and to see the talented cast, not because of money spent to produce it.
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Post by showoff on Apr 17, 2017 16:27:58 GMT
Hello all. Long time lurker, was a member a while back, but cannot remember username, or password, or email used! So a new user now.
I thought I would add my collected thoughts on the show, seen on Thursday night. I saw it from the dress circle, I always prefer the dress circle anywhere for a few reasons, one being I like the overall view of the show and set pieces. I had to go further back then I usually like to the front row of the second section, as because of personal reasons, I really need an aisle seat and none were available at booking for the front rows/section and as it was a birthday treat, the date had to stand. I saw a full cast, no understudies, including Amber and Adam fresh off their Olivier wins.
I don't think my thoughts will be what the majority think, but they are mine anyway!
A few problems I had with the show were varied. For me the biggest was Amber. Whilst she has an amazing voice, no doubt about it, but her overall performance, either in the song or acting, just didn't reach me in the dress circle. Her eyeline was mostly kept level, so no playing to the gods, and so to me it seemed as if she was always looking down. Of course her voice reached me and it was stunning, but as a performance, I felt it was lacking. I don't know if in the stalls I would have had a completely different opinion and I am willing to go again and try the stalls for the first time in many years to see. But even so, it's still an issue for me in her performance. I actually wondered how she managed to win the Olivier if that was her performance level.
Adam on the other hand was amazing, star quality in spades, and boy did he work that stage! A total scene stealer, when he came on the audience just were drawn to him and enthralled. A supporting award usually goes to those who can shine in every scene they are in, and that's what you have here. I just loved his energy in the role.
Another critisim is, to me, it felt like it lacked any real grit or depth. Where were the civil rights issues? They were barely mentioned. It didn't feel like enough had happened to really make Effie down and out to make her comeback more amazing. The singing between the big numbers made it feel like all of the songs rolled into one and because of this none were standing out on their own. Because of this Listen was an unexpected highlight for me, it stood out as being different and more emotional. My companion and I both agreed and afterwards both said we had tears in our eyes during that one. The actress as Deena sang it beautifully and I didn't believe her to have that great of a voice to begin with, I presume that's a deliberate choice in the role to show her progression as an artist.
Another small thing for me, was the staging of And I am telling you. I didn't enjoy the positioning of the dressing tables throughout it and found myself hoping they were maybe going to revolve them around to the side a bit. I felt it distracted and distanced me from Amber in a way. A small thing maybe, but it was there.
The last thing was the audience, and I am blaming The Savoy for this in part. One thing is they continued to let people in all throughout the first half, at any given time big groups were just brought in. I thought Funny girl was bad enough with that, however they waited between songs for it to happen, Dreamgirls just let people in all throughout. Then there was so many people leaving for the bar or toilet, some people arriving late, not finding their seats and coming back down to ask for help. I was really shocked and it spoiled it. A few people were complaining and one couple did not return after the first half. The other thing is the screaming during the singing, a couple of girls just in front of us began the night by screaming and throwing their arms everywhere, to which I had to ask them to not as I could not see. But the screaming before Amber even finishes her big notes mean you actually miss them, which is actually a shame, I don't really understand it myself as if you are a fan, do you not want to drink in every note, not miss it with your own screaming?
On the whole I think I would give it three stars, I thought it would be a lot more, I've been waiting for this to come here for years, but there were a few things I didn't love. Maybe on a different night, in different seats it would be better, but from where I sat Amber just did not reach me with her performance sadly.
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Post by showoff on Apr 17, 2017 14:38:17 GMT
Are the gold taps actually solid gold?
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