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Post by xanady on Jun 24, 2019 13:20:45 GMT
Every single news agency worth its salt is reporting that TS4 has not nearly lived up to expectations in the US and China which are the biggest audiences by far across the world.Numbers in the UK are immaterial on a global scale.
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Post by xanady on Jun 24, 2019 13:32:06 GMT
As of today,Aladdin is the 78th biggest worldwide money-maker at the BO which aligns it with movies like Fantastic Beasts And Where To Find Them.
Avatar is at the top of the pile with well over 2 billion profit.
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Post by kathryn on Jun 25, 2019 6:37:25 GMT
Agree wholeheartedly with this. People dont appear to understand how the Hollywood business actually works. This is a FANTASTIC blog explaining how the industry work stephenfollows.com/blog/Thanks, really interesting site. I particularly enjoyed stephenfollows.com/do-filmmakers-lie-about-their-budgets/The answer is obviously ‘yes’! If claims about budgets and film profitability were true then the industry simply wouldn’t be viable. |
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Post by missthelma on Jun 25, 2019 12:16:36 GMT
There's always been 'creative' accounting in Hollywood, I think it's fair to say that very few blockbusters actually 'flop' even the notorious ones like John Carter, as once you add all the merchandising tie ins,international markets, DVD sales, TV sales, streaming etc, they usually break even (except on paper!!). It gives me a sick feeling when $110 million in a weekend as seen as failure, abject greed comes to mind.
The ones that intrigue me are the smaller films like the recent Booksmart which seemed to have a massive marketing push and was everywhere but was a 'small' film. The advertising budget appeared to far outstrip the likely production budget even by the accepted x 2 multiplier. I can't find a budget for it at minute. I do recall its opening weekend being called disappointing, but obviously in relation to what?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 12:36:52 GMT
There's always been 'creative' accounting in Hollywood, I think it's fair to say that very few blockbusters actually 'flop' even the notorious ones like John Carter, as once you add all the merchandising tie ins,international markets, DVD sales, TV sales, streaming etc, they usually break even (except on paper!!). It gives me a sick feeling when $110 million in a weekend as seen as failure, abject greed comes to mind. The ones that intrigue me are the smaller films like the recent Booksmart which seemed to have a massive marketing push and was everywhere but was a 'small' film. The advertising budget appeared to far outstrip the likely production budget even by the accepted x 2 multiplier. I can't find a budget for it at minute. I do recall its opening weekend being called disappointing, but obviously in relation to what? According t’web Booksmart budget was $6million and it took $20million in the US |
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Post by missthelma on Jun 25, 2019 18:49:03 GMT
That's a miniscule budget in today's market. I can't find it anywhere on Box Office Mojo's UK charts for the last month which is odd and the other international markets it shows up on give paltry figures. No doubt it will make a profit however small but I would be fascinated to know the true promotion budget for this.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2019 7:32:35 GMT
The Lion King is predicated to make $175-180 million in the states this weekend.........
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2019 21:45:31 GMT
Could we make the title of this thread into a more general box office/movie profitability type thread?
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Post by amp09 on Jul 19, 2019 23:05:12 GMT
betty is bang on with this summation...totally agree! She's hideously wrong though - Aladdin has now taken over $800 million at the box office and is a palpable hit. ...and Toy Story 4 had the biggest ever opening weekend for an animated film at the UK box office and in several other territories, it'll make money - films like TS4 make their profit via merchandise sales. There is a new generation of kids who will be getting their own Buzz and Woody toys this year. That so many films are falling short of BO projections this year shows that its more the projection model that is flawed rather than the quality of the films. Completely agree, we’ve seen much better quality films released this year than last year outside of Oscar season. The market took a huge drop this year as Oscar season didn’t sparkle like it did in 2018, which really was a golden year. While films aren’t reaching their projections, they’re still doing well on the whole, plus the heatwave last Summer on top of the World Cup and other goings on caused a huge dip last year, which means the cinema market is certainly performing better this year without too many other distractions going on. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 7:29:31 GMT
She's hideously wrong though - Aladdin has now taken over $800 million at the box office and is a palpable hit. ...and Toy Story 4 had the biggest ever opening weekend for an animated film at the UK box office and in several other territories, it'll make money - films like TS4 make their profit via merchandise sales. There is a new generation of kids who will be getting their own Buzz and Woody toys this year. That so many films are falling short of BO projections this year shows that its more the projection model that is flawed rather than the quality of the films. Completely agree, we’ve seen much better quality films released this year than last year outside of Oscar season. The market took a huge drop this year as Oscar season didn’t sparkle like it did in 2018, which really was a golden year. While films aren’t reaching their projections, they’re still doing well on the whole, plus the heatwave last Summer on top of the World Cup and other goings on caused a huge dip last year, which means the cinema market is certainly performing better this year without too many other distractions going on. Where are you getting your information?? Here is an article published yesterday to say, in fact, box office is still currently down from Last year www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thewrap.com/movie-ticket-prices-drop-but-so-does-2019-box-office-despite-disney-boom/amp/ |
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Post by amp09 on Jul 20, 2019 20:56:06 GMT
Completely agree, we’ve seen much better quality films released this year than last year outside of Oscar season. The market took a huge drop this year as Oscar season didn’t sparkle like it did in 2018, which really was a golden year. While films aren’t reaching their projections, they’re still doing well on the whole, plus the heatwave last Summer on top of the World Cup and other goings on caused a huge dip last year, which means the cinema market is certainly performing better this year without too many other distractions going on. Where are you getting your information?? Here is an article published yesterday to say, in fact, box office is still currently down from Last year www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thewrap.com/movie-ticket-prices-drop-but-so-does-2019-box-office-despite-disney-boom/amp/I work in cinema management. Box Office is down YTD due to competitors lowering their ticket prices, but admits are up year on year. |
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Post by amp09 on Jul 22, 2019 22:27:27 GMT
OK amp09, how do this board hire a cinema for a screening of "Cats" to which nobody with a phone, food or any penchant for bad behaviour is admitted? Quite easily, I’ve recently done it for groups for ‘The Lion King’ although it’s in daytime slots when we are quieter so an exclusive group booking is better than a few seats filled. |
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Post by amp09 on Jul 23, 2019 21:46:40 GMT
It really depends on the cinema you want to visit, size of screen etc. Happy to chat on PM about it. |
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