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Post by Backdrifter on Apr 27, 2019 15:47:53 GMT
"a gay"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2019 15:54:14 GMT
I am frankly *amazed* that the information had passed everyone by! I mean you will be pleased to know that upon opening Netflix last night and seeing Bodyguard on there I was COMPELLED to immediately have an in-depth conversation about this and it's obvious philosophical (ahem) importance. So while online it did, much was considered offline. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2019 15:55:00 GMT
A gay, two gay three gay four gay. That's how we're all going to be saved onto the ark come the next apocalypse. |
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Post by Backdrifter on Apr 27, 2019 16:04:35 GMT
A gay, two gay three gay four gay. That's how we're all going to be saved onto the ark come the next apocalypse. (Presenter voice) "Still to come - the next apocalypse" |
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Post by horton on Apr 27, 2019 16:09:38 GMT
I dunno, many of the biggest (male) names in 20thc theatre and cinema were gay / bisexual and within the industry fairly openly so. A nervous Gielgud was applauded when he went on stage in Liverpool shortly after his arrest for cottaging in the 50s - for my grandparents' generation it probably wasn't really a 'revelation' that a male actor was gay. I think it's only fairly recently, maybe with the shift to TV / the postwar Grammar school generation coming through (writers/actors) and a more London-centric media (big names don't tour the 'provinces') that the industry 'default' has become more heterosexual. I mean it was a pithy/sarcastic comment made at someone being deliberately obtuse about it. (and not to put too fine a point on it, I do know my gay history having erm made something of an unpaid living out of writing and teaching about it for a while) Were you calling me obtuse? Many/ most of the greatest actors of the past 100 years have not been exclusively heterosexual. So if we start saying it's best that you only act what you are, and not do what actors have done for millennia, then there can never be anything similar to a McKellen Lear etc. Incidentally how does one make 'an unpaid living'? That oxymoron has me baffled. |
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Post by kathryn on Apr 27, 2019 16:16:49 GMT
I actually thought that was a rather good coinage! Lots of people making an ‘unpaid living’ in the arts at the moment, alas - it would be when you’re not actually earning enough to live on, even though you are working professionally at it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2019 16:30:57 GMT
I actually thought that was a rather good coinage! Lots of people making an ‘unpaid living’ in the arts at the moment, alas - it would be when you’re not actually earning enough to live on, even though you are working professionally at it. Thank you Kathryn, that is exactly what I meant. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2019 17:37:55 GMT
I think anyway we're all missing a very important point: Richard Madden is (potentially) a gay, and if that's not proof that God likes the gays I don't know what is. Also clearly time for @ryan to introduce himself and become the first Mr Madden Oooh lovely, that little grey streak gets me all hot and bothered. |
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Post by horton on Apr 27, 2019 17:42:05 GMT
I actually thought that was a rather good coinage! Lots of people making an ‘unpaid living’ in the arts at the moment, alas - it would be when you’re not actually earning enough to live on, even though you are working professionally at it. Not 'a living' though, is it? Just like those shows that purport to be professional where the cast is unpaid, it's not the truth. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2019 17:53:47 GMT
I actually thought that was a rather good coinage! Lots of people making an ‘unpaid living’ in the arts at the moment, alas - it would be when you’re not actually earning enough to live on, even though you are working professionally at it. Not 'a living' though, is it? Just like those shows that purport to be professional where the cast is unpaid, it's not the truth. With respect, I and they are still professionals. I don’t make my entire living from writing/teaching...but that doesn’t make me any less of a professional. Same way an actor who works at Nando’s between shows isn’t less of a professional. |
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Post by crowblack on Apr 27, 2019 18:36:12 GMT
Richard Madden is (potentially) a gay, If he is gay (bi, as he has just split up from that girl in Les Mis) it'll be an interesting test case re the James Bond casting. |
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Post by kathryn on Apr 27, 2019 19:54:57 GMT
Hm. Bear in mind that tabloid Bond casting rumours are notorious for being made-up rubbish. Usually whichever male actor has had a big TV hit recently gets put forward by the tabloids as the ‘next Bond’, because there’s a big overlap between older TV viewers, tabloid readers (a rapidly shrinking readership) and Bond fans.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2019 22:05:59 GMT
Same way an actor who works at Nando’s between shows isn’t less of a professional. Anyone who knows the job they are doing inside-out and performs it to a high standard at all times is a "professional." In many countries, waiting staff are considered top professionals and are highly sought-after. The UK is one of the rare places we don't see it that way, and I think that's awful. Mr Fred off of First Dates being an example of the latter: in French chef training you make a choice between chef and front of house and he made the choice front of house which is treated equally. Similarly retail is a valid career despite many people thinking otherwise. But my point actually was that just because the thing you are paid most for isn’t the only thing you do doesn’t make you any less professional at the other things. One of the artists I work with in what I consider my “day job” makes most of her money hairdressing. Her “profession” is still artist. |
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