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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 10:04:01 GMT
Is it pointless asking what people think the view from the dress circle slips may be like? If we knew where they were, it would help. If they are in the original place, half way up the sides, then the view wasn't bad. Surely to get around the card restriction is as easy as paying for it on a cash passport top-up visa type card and then handing that over at the point of selling on the ticket? But those don't have a name printed on them, do they? Thanks! I know it's silly to ask, but I've never sat in slips before. Not even completely sure what they are to be honest. And these ones seem quite expensive compared to others which makes me think the view must be at least decent.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 10:32:15 GMT
I had the same question @snutte having only sat high up in the Gods at the Palace I had no idea. But I optimistically thought 'They aren't that cheap can't be SO terrible'
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Post by Mr Crummles on Jan 17, 2017 10:46:59 GMT
I read about the Hamilton tickets turning up in Viagogo. I was wondering, how many?
If the current system put in place by the producers manages to stop the action of robots, that put thousands of tickets completely out of reach of ordinary buyers, then it's probably a success.
I think it would be next to impossible to stop touting completely without making the lives of regular theatre-goers difficult and awkward.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 10:53:41 GMT
There are only four dates across November and December with any tickets on Viagogo, and they're either "only 3 tickets remaining!" or "only 2 tickets remaining!". So it looks very much like the small-time tout is planning to do what they can (buying 3 or 4 tickets under their own name, collecting on the day for their customers/patsies, escorting them in, then either watching the show or excusing themselves to leave the building and count their profits). (By contrast, Cursed Child has tickets available in the dozens for most dates on Viagogo.) So the Hamilton set-up does seem to have weeded out bots pretty efficiently at least! And as Mr Crummles says, it's just not feasible to crack down *that* hard at this point when it's just a few individuals (though part of me would rather like to see CamMack set up a taskforce to buy up these tickets, invalidate them, return them to legitimate sale, then recoup the costs via legal means).
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Post by japhun on Jan 17, 2017 10:54:22 GMT
Booked for March 2018 (saw last January in NYC with all the original cast- so my expectations are lower and I am in no rush!).
Main complaint- ticketmaster will not let someone book for 2 people if it leaves one seat vacant. This is ridiculous, as I saw on a lot of other rows one seat vacant all over the place. I find that paying £89 (which is SUPER CHEAP by Broadway standards) for a show that is 14 months away and not being able to choose the seats I want is just terrible!
Also, I had to pay with a credit card that didn't expire before March 2018! Glad I caught that before booking- ludicrous!
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Post by Nelly on Jan 17, 2017 10:58:49 GMT
Also, I had to pay with a credit card that didn't expire before March 2018! Glad I caught that before booking- ludicrous! No you didn't. You would have been able to change details, as indicated on the Hamilton website.
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Post by dizzieblonde on Jan 17, 2017 11:09:05 GMT
Booked for March 2018 (saw last January in NYC with all the original cast- so my expectations are lower and I am in no rush!). Main complaint- ticketmaster will not let someone book for 2 people if it leaves one seat vacant. This is ridiculous, as I saw on a lot of other rows one seat vacant all over the place. I find that paying £89 (which is SUPER CHEAP by Broadway standards) for a show that is 14 months away and not being able to choose the seats I want is just terrible! Also, I had to pay with a credit card that didn't expire before March 2018! Glad I caught that before booking- ludicrous! I had similar issues - the 2 £57.50 tickets I wanted on row G of Dress didn't actually leave a vacant seat, but they left the last seat at that price before the seats changed to the £89 bracket. It wouldn't let me buy them, and I didn't want to buy an extra seat. Luckily, on the row immediately behind, there were 2 end of aisle seats in the price bracket I could afford, isolated from any other available seats. I honestly don't know if this was a weird bug just affecting me when I selected seats, or if others found this issue, but it was definitely annoying, whilst sweating through seat selection as fast as I could! Unfortunately, as for the card thing, I was stuck buying my tickets with a card that will expire in just a few weeks' time. I know there are workarounds built into Ticketmaster's system, and they should contact me to prompt an amendment of my booking, with my new card details, so I'm not overly concerned about that - and I'll definitely make sure that the additional email confirmations are all printed off, as well as the original ticket confirmations. Hopefully, with photo ID on top of everything else, it should all work out. The tricky bit is that I'm about to move house in a couple of weeks - and I've not received my new card! Let's try coordinating THAT with my bank and Royal Mail redirection services! Thank god Hamilton doesn't need an address - don't know what I'd do then!
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Post by japhun on Jan 17, 2017 11:17:36 GMT
Also, I had to pay with a credit card that didn't expire before March 2018! Glad I caught that before booking- ludicrous! No you didn't. You would have been able to change details, as indicated on the Hamilton website. Ah ok- I honestly didn't read through that! Have never seen so many details to book a ticket for a musical! But good to know. Earned Avios out of it either way!
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Post by firefingers on Jan 17, 2017 11:42:33 GMT
Managed to grab two tickets whilst at work with very little time yesterday. Not spectacular seats so gonna try my luck on the 30th and see if I can land something better, as I won't be working at the time they go on sale. Actually teamed up with a friend who has tickets for May, so hopefully between us we'll actually be able to see it (we both work in the industry so evenings off are rare).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 11:44:38 GMT
Re: Touts, like I (and a few others I think) said further up, if a few chancers/Del Boys make a bit of a profit by selling on one or two tickets, in the grand scheme of it I don't care that much. It's more that this system does seem to be keeping at bay the massive scalping via computer. So well done so far Cam Mack!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 11:56:09 GMT
Re: Touts, like I (and a few others I think) said further up, if a few chancers/Del Boys make a bit of a profit by selling on one or two tickets, in the grand scheme of it I don't care that much. It's more that this system does seem to be keeping at bay the massive scalping via computer. So well done so far Cam Mack! Kinda wish I'd booked 4 tickets and a holiday in the Seychelles.
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Post by PalelyLaura on Jan 17, 2017 12:55:15 GMT
I wonder if there'll end up being lots of returns for this when it comes nearer to the date of when people have booked. The vast majority of people who booked today will be waiting between a year and a year and a half until they see the show, and who knows what could happen in that time that may result in them not being able to attend. Harry Potter being the perfect example - there often seems to be tickets available at the last minute (albeit mostly the top price/premium tickets) and I wonder whether those are house seats being released at the last minute or whether its returns, especially as people will likely be coming from all over the world. So maybe those who live more locally and who didn't get tickets, or at least not the ones they wanted, may find themselves in luck nearer the time! This is my hope - I couldn't face the scrum yesterday so I'm going to try and keep an eye out nearer to the time and see if I can nab a return. I managed this for Cursed Child - got a ticket for mid-August in June. On the other hand, I might cave and try my luck with public booking in a couple of weeks...
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Post by Ade on Jan 17, 2017 13:20:04 GMT
Is it pointless asking what people think the view from the dress circle slips may be like? If we knew where they were, it would help. If they are in the original place, half way up the sides, then the view wasn't bad. Surely to get around the card restriction is as easy as paying for it on a cash passport top-up visa type card and then handing that over at the point of selling on the ticket? But those don't have a name printed on them, do they? Ah this is true. Clearly I'm not meant to be a tout!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 13:27:11 GMT
Just had a nosey at the booking site and as said above if you can wait till March onwards to see it there is plenty of availability still, with more seats to be released for public booking too.
Amazed to explore the seating plan and see how many seats are at 90 quid and above including quite a few in the upper circle and seats at the back of the stalls which are marked as restricted view when you select them. Turns out my seat (R9) genuinely is "best available" in stalls at 60 quid as it's behind and next to 90 quid seats!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 14:25:59 GMT
60 quid as it's behind and next to 90 quid seats Top Tip: " £" is " Shift 3".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 14:30:02 GMT
60 quid as it's behind and next to 90 quid seats Top Tip: " £" is " Shift 3". That entirely depends on your keyboard layout, which can vary between computer brands and definitely often varies depending on your country.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 14:32:40 GMT
I guess that xanderl and I share a country in common. Maybe not a keyboard, I admit ...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 14:49:06 GMT
Also depends whether something weird has happened with your computer and shift 3 is coming out as #
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Post by Jon on Jan 17, 2017 15:19:48 GMT
The old ones were of two types. In the dress circle they were a raised alcove at the side of the circle, above and behind the staircase on the side wall of the theatre. Movable chairs in a floor space with a low wall stopping you falling into the audience in front. In the upper circle, they were a group of 4 theatre seats at the side of the circle, no legroom, just normal side view circle tickets on the front row. My Mum bought those tickets, It'll be interesting if Cameron makes any changes to that alcove during the refurb, the slips in the Prince Edward are great value for money so i'm hoping the new slips are similar.
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Post by kathryn on Jan 17, 2017 15:37:51 GMT
Also depends whether something weird has happened with your computer and shift 3 is coming out as # Your keyboard settings must have been changed to US. Try: Control panel > Regional and Language Options > Languages > Text Services and Input Languages > Details > Installed Services And then select keyboard and click add, and choose UK. Might be a slightly different route depending on your OS, so you might have to poke around a bit to find it.
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Post by lynette on Jan 17, 2017 15:42:42 GMT
The cc thing is annoying. The transaction is done, no doubt the money already in the back pocket of somebody. The cc company is responsible if a transaction doesn't provide the service you paid for. You can get your money back for example when a product is faulty and the seller won't recompense. So...if we have used cc now the transaction is secure regardless of what cc we have at the time of the show we attend. Am I wrong?
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Post by fiyero on Jan 17, 2017 15:53:43 GMT
The cc thing is annoying. The transaction is done, no doubt the money already in the back pocket of somebody. The cc company is responsible if a transaction doesn't provide the service you paid for. You can get your money back for example when a product is faulty and the seller won't recompense. So...if we have used cc now the transaction is secure regardless of what cc we have at the time of the show we attend. Am I wrong? I think the card is more used as a key. Like those lockers where you get a unique code to type in
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Post by dizzieblonde on Jan 17, 2017 15:56:14 GMT
The cc thing is annoying. The transaction is done, no doubt the money already in the back pocket of somebody. The cc company is responsible if a transaction doesn't provide the service you paid for. You can get your money back for example when a product is faulty and the seller won't recompense. So...if we have used cc now the transaction is secure regardless of what cc we have at the time of the show we attend. Am I wrong? The website does say that the original card is the only one that the money will be taken from - the new card details are a security feature to link the person accessing the theatre with the original booking (given old credit cards are chopped up upon expiry usually). I actually wondered about keeping hold of the original card, so that I could present both when I went to the theatre, as well as all the documentation that will show the transfer of my new card onto my Ticketmaster account - but that seemed like overkill! The purchase itself is secured against your card account - not just the specific card used to pay for it, so the insurance attached to the purchase doesn't disappear when your card expires and the company issues you with a replacement. I don't think that is an issue here. Plus, you can get refund on these tickets up to 48 hours before the performance (less about £3 for admin charges), which I think is more than fair. There's plenty of other theatre and event tickets that have no refund capabilities from the second you buy them, no matter how far in advance you buy them.
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Post by lynette on Jan 17, 2017 15:56:24 GMT
Ok, so a key but still my point is that cc not necessary for purchase confirmation. Honestly I'm not sure of this but I can't see how they can demand the cc you use to pay after it has expired anyway..maybe..when the purchase is done and dusted. If they don't let you in the cc company will have to give you the money back, no? So if they want a key, they should find a better way of doing this. I foresee loads of trouble.
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Post by Dan213 on Jan 17, 2017 16:00:16 GMT
Ok, so a key but still my point is that cc not necessary for purchase confirmation. Honestly I'm not sure of this but I can't see how they can demand the cc you use to pay after it has expired anyway..maybe..when the purchase is done and dusted. If they don't let you in the cc company will have to give you the money back, no? So if they want a key, they should find a better way of doing this. I foresee loads of trouble. I struggle to think of any better way to do it.
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