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Post by hulmeman on Oct 14, 2022 7:58:20 GMT
Can I be the first to say on ‘ere Come back Boris, all is forgiven. NO
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Oct 14, 2022 8:14:48 GMT
Can I be the first to say on ‘ere Come back Boris, all is forgiven. NO You say that still, even after Liz Truss has trashed the economy?
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Post by thebroadwayboy on Oct 14, 2022 8:26:55 GMT
this song comes to mind : Say he do stuff for us, get our vote, he just ignore us, same old story, mama, same tired old lie. If you got to do it mama go ahead and cry. I ain?t got no tears to shed for no dead white guy.
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Post by jojo on Oct 14, 2022 10:22:35 GMT
You say that still, even after Liz Truss has trashed the economy? He trashed it first. He put in place all of the conditions that led to her placing the straws breaking the camel's back. Except that camel's back was already in very poor shape. In particular, he created a culture of avoiding accountability. That's not to say politics, or his predecessors of any colour were perfect, but he frequently lied to both the public and Parliament at a scale previously unheard of and got away with it for far too long. The UK economy has faced some challenges that originated outside the UK, such as the pandemic and the war in Ukraine, but Johnson's handling of both, especially the pandemic, resulted in a bigger hit to our economy and the running down of our public services, particularly the NHS and social care. But the biggest Johnson lies were about Brexit. From the false promises of it being good for the NHS and business, to the arrogant claims of holding all the cards. Brexit was the biggest wrecking ball for our economy, and as much as it's pathetic that so many politicians will lie more to deflect from this, they are simply continuing the Johnson approach. Not that he was a hard-working PM in the first place, but he went into near full-time holiday mode from the moment he announced his resignation until Truss took over. He never cared about serving the people. I don't think he even cared that much for power. All he wanted was the status and the perks that came with being PM.
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Post by talkingheads on Oct 14, 2022 11:45:41 GMT
How many Chancellors is it until Christmas?
It's beyond a joke. This cannot carry on for another two months never mind two years. We need a General Election as soon as possible.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2022 12:10:35 GMT
Sack again? Dear oh dear. Anyway.
(sorry, I should have resisted lol)
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Post by Someone in a tree on Oct 14, 2022 12:19:28 GMT
I am a big fan of the artist Cold War Steve and here he sums the situation up brilliantly.
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Post by vdcni on Oct 14, 2022 12:19:58 GMT
It's surely unsupportable that she stays.
The Chancellor was putting her policies into action and the markets and the public gave a resounding no. Any reasons for him to resign apply to her as well.
There needs to be a general election.
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Post by inthenose on Oct 14, 2022 12:22:42 GMT
Utter incompetence
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Post by Someone in a tree on Oct 14, 2022 13:06:54 GMT
I struggle to see how Truss can remain as PM. If we do get another PM then I can't see it working without a general election.
#strongandstable
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Post by talkingheads on Oct 14, 2022 13:23:08 GMT
I struggle to see how Truss can remain as PM. If we do get another PM then I can't see it working without a general election. #strongandstable I see she's called a press conference this afternoon. Surely that wouldn't be necessary unless she has something else, like, hypothetically speaking, her own resignation, to announce. Oh, just seen. Then laughed. Then laughed some more. Jeremy Hunt as Chancellor.
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Post by crowblack on Oct 14, 2022 13:26:13 GMT
This is the most inept political generation ever, surely?
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Post by Jon on Oct 14, 2022 13:43:56 GMT
Rishi must be laughing on the backbenches.
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Post by marob on Oct 14, 2022 13:58:15 GMT
I do hope his return means we’re in for a fresh round of “Jeremy Cu… sorry, Hunt” from the reporters.
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Post by og on Oct 14, 2022 14:00:01 GMT
I struggle to see how Truss can remain as PM. If we do get another PM then I can't see it working without a general election. #strongandstable I see she's called a press conference this afternoon. Surely that wouldn't be necessary unless she has something else, like, hypothetically speaking, her own resignation, to announce. Oh, just seen. Then laughed. Then laughed some more. Jeremy Hunt as Chancellor. I'd be laughing too if I wasn't petrified at the thought of it. At least he's vaguely competent but runs entirely fuelled on the concept of the NHS's destruction; which he will make short work of in his new role, as he strangles their finances. Mortifying.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Oct 14, 2022 14:05:00 GMT
When she was scanning the room to select journalists for questions it was pure comedy gold.
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Post by kathryn on Oct 14, 2022 14:09:15 GMT
Well, I hope James Graham is taking notes.
Surely it’ll be a farce.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2022 14:28:01 GMT
When she was scanning the room to select journalists for questions it was pure comedy gold.
Is someone, somewhere, pounding the keyboards and writing U-Turn: The Musical?
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Post by alece10 on Oct 14, 2022 14:30:22 GMT
When she was scanning the room to select journalists for questions it was pure comedy gold. N And she sounded so robotic. No feeling whatsoever.
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Post by inthenose on Oct 14, 2022 14:37:02 GMT
Regardless of one’s political leanings (I consider myself fiscally centre-right, socially liberal) this is an absolute disaster of a government. People love to throw around hyperbole, and I’m no different, so I’m going to say this is the worst government in living memory.
Which is an astonishing “achievement” given the previous government’s war in Iraq.
Not even conservatives could defend this omnishambles.
Save us!!!
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Oct 14, 2022 14:37:17 GMT
I struggle to see how Truss can remain as PM. If we do get another PM then I can't see it working without a general election. #strongandstable I see she's called a press conference this afternoon. Surely that wouldn't be necessary unless she has something else, like, hypothetically speaking, her own resignation, to announce. Oh, just seen. Then laughed. Then laughed some more. Jeremy Hunt as Chancellor. Going to be Johnson managing till the end of the season
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Post by Someone in a tree on Oct 14, 2022 14:53:06 GMT
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Oct 14, 2022 15:13:42 GMT
Regardless of one’s political leanings (I consider myself fiscally centre-right, socially liberal) this is an absolute disaster of a government. People love to throw around hyperbole, and I’m no different, so I’m going to say this is the worst government in living memory. Which is an astonishing “achievement” given the previous government’s war in Iraq. Not even conservatives could defend this omnishambles. Save us!!! You got war in Iraq as worse than Johnson's lies?
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Post by inthenose on Oct 14, 2022 18:06:37 GMT
Regardless of one’s political leanings (I consider myself fiscally centre-right, socially liberal) this is an absolute disaster of a government. People love to throw around hyperbole, and I’m no different, so I’m going to say this is the worst government in living memory. Which is an astonishing “achievement” given the previous government’s war in Iraq. Not even conservatives could defend this omnishambles. Save us!!! You got war in Iraq as worse than Johnson's lies? Nah, I am not partisan, I vote for which party I think is best for the country/constituency. Johnson was horrific, so was our decision to go to war. One doesn’t negate the other.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Oct 14, 2022 18:45:51 GMT
It's time for a National Government. No election. Just two years of politicians working together not fighting.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Oct 14, 2022 21:40:41 GMT
It's time for a National Government. No election. Just two years of politicians working together not fighting. She’s only got to call a general election
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Oct 14, 2022 21:42:17 GMT
You got war in Iraq as worse than Johnson's lies? Nah, I am not partisan, I vote for which party I think is best for the country/constituency. Johnson was horrific, so was our decision to go to war. One doesn’t negate the other. Just surprised me you would jump passed the Johnson regime and it’s ills really
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Post by oxfordsimon on Oct 14, 2022 21:44:27 GMT
It's time for a National Government. No election. Just two years of politicians working together not fighting. She’s only got to call a general election That just isn't going to happen. So a national government is the only viable solution
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Post by vdcni on Oct 14, 2022 21:47:25 GMT
There's absolutely no justification for a national goverment.
If the Conservatives can't govern they have to go to the country.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Oct 14, 2022 22:09:10 GMT
No party with their current opinion poll showing is going to call an election unless they are forced to by losing a vote of no confidence in Parliament. And that is not going to happen no matter how much you might wish it.
A national government could be established to see the country through the current global turmoil.
Indeed we probably should have considered it at the start of COVID.
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