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Post by bobbievanhusen on Sept 23, 2022 15:46:18 GMT
I think the producers are trying to appeal to the older theatregoers who would have seen it years ago. Making 2 movies imo is silly. I do not think that today's audiences will relate to it as much since they have so many other causes. Probably direct to a video platform I do not see it opening in theatres. The star power of the one casting they could easily have done to get people in seats is not there. Do you realize Fiyero has gone from Zac Efron, Nick Jonas, Justin Bieber, Harry Styles now to someone who is known to the general worldwide public for Bridgerton and that is cable. Unless they think Aria Grande will bring in all the people, there is not one name to attract a general audience. And yes he has theatre credits but that does not translate to tickets when he is not that well known. None of the actors you named had been cast as Fiyero. Their names have been rumoured, but that's all they were, rumours.
Zac Efron has already played the love interest in a movie musical and wouldn't do it again, same with Meryl playing the baddie type character in a musical.
Also, by the time the movie opens in cinemas in 2024, some of the people in it might have a far bigger profile. But at the same time, some of them might have disgraced themselves and hurt the movies chances!
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Post by christya on Sept 24, 2022 17:03:22 GMT
So far every single announcement about this has left me either annoyed (Cynthia, the two movie thing) or underwhelmed (Ariana, Jonathan). I'd just like to hear something and instantly say "Oh wow, yes, that's fanatastic". The suggestion of Bette Midler as Morrible I liked, that would do it, but it's not going to happen.
Just one awesome thing. One. Shouldn't be much to ask.
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Post by sleepflower on Sept 24, 2022 18:42:08 GMT
I'm mostly wondering how they're going to style it out when the characters are supposed to be young students, and two of the leads are mid 30s!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 24, 2022 19:14:58 GMT
I’d say hanna was a MT name but not a “name”. As for the other one I’ve never heard of her! I was thinking Midler, Streep, Baranski etc. Proper names! and Hannah has won big awards for it. Her profile has definitely massively grown in the last couple of years. She just has the added benefit of that MT experience now. Im sure I am the only one but… who? I’ve never heard of this globally massive person. |
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Post by aptheguy on Sept 24, 2022 19:58:56 GMT
I wonder how early in production we'll get our first look at Cynthia and Ariana in character.
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Post by WireHangers on Sept 24, 2022 23:01:21 GMT
Ted Lasso is globally massive and Hannah has won big awards for it. Her profile has definitely massively grown in the last couple of years. She just has the added benefit of that MT experience now. Im sure I am the only one but… who? I’ve never heard of this globally massive person. It’s a show on AppleTV and swept the Emmys the last two years. |
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Post by Deal J on Sept 25, 2022 0:18:02 GMT
Ted Lasso is globally massive and Hannah has won big awards for it. Her profile has definitely massively grown in the last couple of years. She just has the added benefit of that MT experience now. Im sure I am the only one but… who? I’ve never heard of this globally massive person. She went quiet for a while due to family commitments, but in terms of MT you might remember her as Desiree in the Menier production of A Little Night Music, and the Witch in the Regents Park Open Air Into the Woods, and the Witch in ALW’s Wizard of Oz. She’s fabulous - if you’re not already familiar with her work I’d highly recommend it! |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 25, 2022 3:54:02 GMT
Im sure I am the only one but… who? I’ve never heard of this globally massive person. She went quiet for a while due to family commitments, but in terms of MT you might remember her as Desiree in the Menier production of A Little Night Music, and the Witch in the Regents Park Open Air Into the Woods, and the Witch in ALW’s Wizard of Oz. She’s fabulous - if you’re not already familiar with her work I’d highly recommend it! I know who Hanna Waddingham is, it’s TEd Lasso I’d never heard of. It may have won Emmys but as far as I’m concerned anything on AppleTV is niche. |
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Post by c4ndyc4ne on Sept 25, 2022 6:38:45 GMT
She went quiet for a while due to family commitments, but in terms of MT you might remember her as Desiree in the Menier production of A Little Night Music, and the Witch in the Regents Park Open Air Into the Woods, and the Witch in ALW’s Wizard of Oz. She’s fabulous - if you’re not already familiar with her work I’d highly recommend it! I know who Hanna Waddingham is, it’s TEd Lasso I’d never heard of. It may have won Emmys but as far as I’m concerned anything on AppleTV is niche. Given another of its Emmy-winning stars, Brett Goldstein, has been cast in MCU films etc, casting directors very much consider it a hot ticket to some premium picks. And Waddingham, another Emmy winner for Ted Lasso, is about to star in Hocus Pocus 2, if that helps. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 25, 2022 7:01:55 GMT
No it doesn’t really, because we’re talking about who they need to cast for Morrible now in order for the film to appeal across the board and as talented as she might be, and as much as her profile might be increasing HW is not movie star casting.
Anyway I feel I’ve invested way too many posts into Mme Morrible so let’s agree to differ eh 🙂
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Post by danb on Sept 25, 2022 7:12:41 GMT
Of course the remedy is that you invest some time in ‘Ted Lasso’ BB. It is fantastic tv, not at all niche. It might appear to be about football on the surface but is really just a fish out of water story and how he touches peoples lives. Fabulous performances all round and just a breath of fresh air.
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Post by StageyBrum on Sept 25, 2022 12:09:00 GMT
Hannah is also going to be in Hocus Pocus 2. I don’t think it’s a relatively big part but still we know the cult following that franchise has and how many people will watch the sequel.
Edit: Sorry I just saw someone else mentioned this above
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Post by alicechallice on Sept 25, 2022 14:54:13 GMT
Veering back to the present however, Michelle Yeoh is definitely more famous than HW in Hollywood terms.
Bond Girl, Crouching Tiger, Oscar-bait like Memoirs of a Geisha, played Aung San Suu Kyi, box office hits (Crazy Rich Asians), Marvel & now one of the most successful independent films at the BO ever - Everything Everywhere All At Once, for which she will possibly get a lot of attention come Awards time.
So, yeah, she’s a thing.
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Sept 25, 2022 16:37:22 GMT
Veering back to the present however, Michelle Yeoh is definitely more famous than HW in Hollywood terms. Bond Girl, Crouching Tiger, Oscar-bait like Memoirs of a Geisha, played Aung San Suu Kyi, box office hits (Crazy Rich Asians), Marvel & now one of the most successful independent films at the BO ever - Everything Everywhere All At Once, for which she will possibly get a lot of attention come Awards time. So, yeah, she’s a thing. And more recently she was Philippa Georgiou in Star Trek - Discovery, for the nerds among us. She was fierce in that and could definitely carry some of that over into Morrible. |
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Post by aptheguy on Sept 25, 2022 18:09:13 GMT
Her performance in Crazy Rich Asians shows how she can seem benevolent one moment and switch to villain so easily. Of course Morrible is more villainous than her CRA character.
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Post by jacob on Sept 25, 2022 18:23:32 GMT
Her performance in Crazy Rich Asians shows how she can seem benevolent one moment and switch to villain so easily. Of course Morrible is more villainous than her CRA character. Thank you, she was great in EEAAW too. Some on here really can’t choose between big names or bway actors. Just know that all is going to be ok until J*mes C*rden shows up. And, Ariana’s fanbase is absolutely huge. The music is on hold due to the films to come,, so her fans really are waiting for this too.. I do worry that this will translate to film poorly though. No CGI nightmares please |
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Post by aptheguy on Sept 25, 2022 18:40:17 GMT
Winnie Holzman did an interview earlier this year where she talked about adapting the show for the film.
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Post by lam1996 on Sept 25, 2022 21:08:00 GMT
I wonder what exactly they are pulling from the novel?
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Post by singularsensation10 on Sept 26, 2022 14:57:29 GMT
I think it’s important to remember what Wicked is a global phenomenon - even people who don’t know much about MT will know Wicked exists, even if they don’t know what it’s about. As such the need to stunt cast is less than something like the recent film adaption of The Prom for example.
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Post by aptheguy on Sept 26, 2022 18:58:54 GMT
I wonder if they're gonna bring back Glinda's friends from the book.
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Post by LaLuPone on Sept 26, 2022 19:23:09 GMT
I wonder if they're gonna bring back Glinda's friends from the book. Pfanee and Shen Shen are in the musical anyway if you mean them, just with very small roles and without being named on stage, though they’re named in the script. |
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Post by johnie21 on Sept 26, 2022 19:40:06 GMT
I wonder if they're gonna bring back Glinda's friends from the book. Pfanee and Shen Shen are in the musical anyway if you mean them, just with very small roles and without being named on st age, though they’re named in the script. [br Funnily enough I Think The comedian Megan Slater and Actor/American actor, comedian, podcaster, and writer Bowen Yang have been casted in these role |
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Post by robertb213 on Sept 26, 2022 20:43:07 GMT
I think it’s important to remember what Wicked is a global phenomenon - even people who don’t know much about MT will know Wicked exists, even if they don’t know what it’s about. As such the need to stunt cast is less than something like the recent film adaption of The Prom for example. I thought the very same about the Les Mis film a decade ago, and look at the mess they made with casting A-Listers in that! |
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Post by aptheguy on Sept 26, 2022 21:29:08 GMT
There's so much from the books that they could take from. A few characters and moments here and there.
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Post by sukhavati on Sept 27, 2022 0:07:41 GMT
I'm mostly wondering how they're going to style it out when the characters are supposed to be young students, and two of the leads are mid 30s! CGI can help with the age discrepancy. Apparently the next Indiana Jones film is supposed to take place in a past decade prior to "Crystal Skull," so the photos I've seen from the set have featured Harrison Ford with a bunch of reference dots painted on his face and neck for the CGI wizards to youthify him for the finished product.
On a related note, this video by the CGI house that resurrected the late Harold Ramis for "Ghostbusters: Afterlife" gives you an idea of what can be done with ageing, so imagine the process in reverse. This is the same house that worked with Sean Young in the "Blade Runner 2049" sequel and restored her youthful replicant appearance, although I admit that was more artificial than what they came up with for Harold Ramis three years later. As long as the actor and their voice are available, the filmmakers don't have to worry about the "Uncanny Valley" problem that plagued Disney in resurrecting Peter Cushing and using whatever scraps and body doubles that were available after Carrie Fisher passed.
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