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Post by aksis on Aug 1, 2016 10:53:00 GMT
I am going to give 'avoiding spoilers until March next year' a serious try!!
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Post by bellboard27 on Aug 1, 2016 11:34:44 GMT
According to the BBC review of the critics, the play script has left some critics unsatisfied because it is not fleshed out like a novel but is ..err.. a play script.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2016 11:57:38 GMT
According to the BBC review of the critics, the play script has left some critics unsatisfied because it is not fleshed out like a novel but is ..err.. a play script. So glad I'm not the only person reacting to this news by rolling my eyes. The weird thing is, when you read the truncated Telegraph review in full it actually points out how nice some of the stage directions are, in terms of feeling more like story-writing than play-writing! |
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Post by Rozzi Rainbow on Aug 1, 2016 17:52:36 GMT
Oh I want to know which line! Come tell us in the spoiler thread! Yes, I reposted my thoughts in the spoiler thread and expanded on them - I've mentioned which line it was. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2016 18:06:17 GMT
The more worrying part is that the script is also getting bad reviews from the fans who are calling it fanfiction, saying that the characters aren't recognizable etc.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2016 18:26:16 GMT
The more worrying part is that the script is also getting bad reviews from the fans who are calling it fanfiction, saying that the characters aren't recognizable etc. Well, they're also a lot older! People change. Real people aren't 2 dimensional characters. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2016 18:27:56 GMT
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Post by Ade on Aug 1, 2016 19:11:47 GMT
It's a shame really because given the luke warm to icy cold reviews for the script I can't help but feel it'll put people off going to see it that would enjoy it in the flesh. |
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Post by wavingthroughawindow on Aug 1, 2016 19:31:13 GMT
Does anyone know how the cancellation line / return queue works? Like when should I join the line and how likely will I get a ticket? I only want one for myself, so I don't know this boosts or lowers my chance. Many thanks!
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Post by firefingers on Aug 1, 2016 20:41:59 GMT
Plays rarely work written down, so much is lost. And that is true for big, modern technical shows and right the way back to Shakespeare. Theatre is a visual and aural art form. Judging the play by the book is akin to turning the lights off and licking the Mona Lisa. I know JK Rowling wanted to make the show accessible worldwide, but I can't help but feel it's release may well be detrimental to the show's future.
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Post by Jon on Aug 1, 2016 20:54:02 GMT
Going off-topic but JK Rowling mentioned on press night of Cursed Child that she's done with Harry Potter but I think that while Harry's story might be concluded, the Wizarding World will most certainly continue, we're getting the Fantastic Beasts trilogy in the cinema which covers a time period not mentioned in the books, new characters and set in a country which hasn't been covered by the previous books. I
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Post by stuartmcd on Aug 1, 2016 21:00:10 GMT
Going off-topic but JK Rowling mentioned on press night of Cursed Child that she's done with Harry Potter but I think that while Harry's story might be concluded, the Wizarding World will most certainly continue, we're getting the Fantastic Beasts trilogy in the cinema which covers a time period not mentioned in the books, new characters and set in a country which hasn't been covered by the previous books. I I found this interview rather interesting www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36932417When asked if Harry's story would continue in another kind of medium she mentioned doing Fantastic Beasts and that it was more "previewy" than people realise. |
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Post by Jon on Aug 1, 2016 21:54:58 GMT
Going off-topic but JK Rowling mentioned on press night of Cursed Child that she's done with Harry Potter but I think that while Harry's story might be concluded, the Wizarding World will most certainly continue, we're getting the Fantastic Beasts trilogy in the cinema which covers a time period not mentioned in the books, new characters and set in a country which hasn't been covered by the previous books. I I found this interview rather interesting www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36932417When asked if Harry's story would continue in another kind of medium she mentioned doing Fantastic Beasts and that it was more "previewy" than people realise. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a young Dumbledore in one of the Fantastic Beasts films. Percival Graves mentions Dumbledore being fond of Newt so there's a connection. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2016 22:13:07 GMT
Does anyone know how the cancellation line / return queue works? Like when should I join the line and how likely will I get a ticket? I only want one for myself, so I don't know this boosts or lowers my chance. Many thanks! I was waiting to pick up my tickets last Thursday and heard box office saying during the week people are queuing from 10am and weekends 8am (although I imagine now it's going to be earlier). He wouldn't tell the lady how many tickets they where having returned but it sounded as thou they did get quite a few |
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Post by wavingthroughawindow on Aug 1, 2016 23:48:05 GMT
Does anyone know how the cancellation line / return queue works? Like when should I join the line and how likely will I get a ticket? I only want one for myself, so I don't know this boosts or lowers my chance. Many thanks! I was waiting to pick up my tickets last Thursday and heard box office saying during the week people are queuing from 10am and weekends 8am (although I imagine now it's going to be earlier). He wouldn't tell the lady how many tickets they where having returned but it sounded as thou they did get quite a few Thank you so much! It's still much better than Hamilton cancellation line in New York, and after having waited in that line, I'd love to give this a try! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2016 8:50:12 GMT
The more worrying part is that the script is also getting bad reviews from the fans who are calling it fanfiction, saying that the characters aren't recognizable etc. Well not having seen it and going only on what I've read in the spoiler thread here (given my chances of seeing it in the next year or more are minimal at best), I have to admit that one character in particular does sound like they've come straight out of mediocre fan fiction. Maybe I'll change my mind when I read the script or eventually see the play, but at the minute I can entirely understand where comments like that are coming from. And it's all very well saying don't read the script before you see the show or it'll spoil it, but some of us have no idea when or even if we will ever get to see it. Those who have been fortunate enough to go already would do well to remember that. |
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Post by andrew on Aug 2, 2016 9:47:25 GMT
And it's all very well saying don't read the script before you see the show or it'll spoil it, but some of us have no idea when or even if we will ever get to see it. Those who have been fortunate enough to go already would do well to remember that. I've been telling everyone I know not to read it and to wait and see it. Because that's genuinely the better way round. Having experienced the show and now reading the script (and people's reactions to the script) it's a no-brained that seeing it all for the first time on stage is orders of magnitude better than reading the stage directions. It's up to you what you do but it's honest advice people are giving, even if it's not the easiest option. |
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Post by westendwendy on Aug 2, 2016 10:10:13 GMT
Plays rarely work written down, so much is lost. And that is true for big, modern technical shows and right the way back to Shakespeare. Theatre is a visual and aural art form. Judging the play by the book is akin to turning the lights off and licking the Mona Lisa. I know JK Rowling wanted to make the show accessible worldwide, but I can't help but feel it's release may well be detrimental to the show's future. I personally agree with this and think the Cursed Child should have been released as a written book! Fans are used to this. Of course people aren't going to get the full feeling and experience from stage left, stage right. Books need clear adjectives, atmosphere, texture, colouring - play scripts can't do this because they aren't meant to! The stage productions fill in the gaps! |
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Post by CBP1 on Aug 2, 2016 16:11:27 GMT
And it's all very well saying don't read the script before you see the show or it'll spoil it, but some of us have no idea when or even if we will ever get to see it. Those who have been fortunate enough to go already would do well to remember that. I've been telling everyone I know not to read it and to wait and see it. Because that's genuinely the better way round. Having experienced the show and now reading the script (and people's reactions to the script) it's a no-brained that seeing it all for the first time on stage is orders of magnitude better than reading the stage directions. It's up to you what you do but it's honest advice people are giving, even if it's not the easiest option. Agreed. Please don't think that those of us who have seen it are bragging. And I'm sorry if it comes across like that. I know I was very lucky to get tickets last month. And I also know that if I hadn't I would have been sorely tempted to read the play. And would have appreciated advice from people on here. It's not even really a spoiler thing. I don't mind spoilers. I was just concerned that people might be put off by the script which seems to have been happening this week. (Admittedly maybe not a problem for people on here who are regular theatregoers.) I also agree with those who have been suggesting that it should have been released as a book rather than a script. Then I wouldn't have suggested avoiding it. Just like I would never tell people not to read the HP books before seeing the films. They're different but in each case you are enjoying the same story but in a form in which it was intended to be enjoyed. A book is meant to be read. A film is meant to be watched. A play is meant to be seen, not read. I'd give the same advice on any play - Watch it first. It's just that it rarely needs to be said. Most people don't read plays at all, unless they're studying them. Out of interest, how many people on here read the script of other plays they have seen? Genuinely curious. I realise that I will almost certainly read this one, yet I never normally feel the need to get the script of a show I've seen. Something just makes it different - I guess old habits die hard, and this still feels to many people like the next Harry Potter book. Which it's not. |
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Post by d'James on Aug 2, 2016 16:36:42 GMT
I've been telling everyone I know not to read it and to wait and see it. Because that's genuinely the better way round. Having experienced the show and now reading the script (and people's reactions to the script) it's a no-brained that seeing it all for the first time on stage is orders of magnitude better than reading the stage directions. It's up to you what you do but it's honest advice people are giving, even if it's not the easiest option. Agreed. Please don't think that those of us who have seen it are bragging. And I'm sorry if it comes across like that. I know I was very lucky to get tickets last month. And I also know that if I hadn't I would have been sorely tempted to read the play. And would have appreciated advice from people on here. It's not even really a spoiler thing. I don't mind spoilers. I was just concerned that people might be put off by the script which seems to have been happening this week. (Admittedly maybe not a problem for people on here who are regular theatregoers.) I also agree with those who have been suggesting that it should have been released as a book rather than a script. Then I wouldn't have suggested avoiding it. Just like I would never tell people not to read the HP books before seeing the films. They're different but in each case you are enjoying the same story but in a form in which it was intended to be enjoyed. A book is meant to be read. A film is meant to be watched. A play is meant to be seen, not read. I'd give the same advice on any play - Watch it first. It's just that it rarely needs to be said. Most people don't read plays at all, unless they're studying them. Out of interest, how many people on here read the script of other plays they have seen? Genuinely curious. I realise that I will almost certainly read this one, yet I never normally feel the need to get the script of a show I've seen. Something just makes it different - I guess old habits die hard, and this still feels to many people like the next Harry Potter book. Which it's not. I buy the scripts of all the plays I like, kind of like a soundtrack. I never tend to get around to reading them though. |
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Post by CBP1 on Aug 2, 2016 16:47:27 GMT
I buy the scripts of all the plays I like, kind of like a soundtrack. I never tend to get around to reading them though. Good point re soundtrack - We could almost merge this discussion with the ongoing debate over whether to listen to the cast recording before seeing a show..... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2016 19:49:13 GMT
Does studying Streetcar in school before ever seeing a production of it count? It wasn't exactly voluntary reading, but I loved it and saw a production at the first chance I got (albeit a fair few years later)!
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Post by wavingthroughawindow on Aug 2, 2016 20:16:15 GMT
Does studying Streetcar in school before ever seeing a production of it count? It wasn't exactly voluntary reading, but I loved it and saw a production at the first chance I got (albeit a fair few years later)! I saw the Young Vic production of Streetcar in Brooklyn before I read the play. But because I'd watched Blue Jasmine and read something about it being a rip-off of Streetcar and thus not deserving the Oscar for the best original script, I pretty much knew how things were going to unfold. It only surprised me that Streetcar is much darker than Jasmine in many ways. Now looking back, I reckon I'd enjoy the show better if I hadn't been "spoiled," but the production itself is brilliant nonetheless. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2016 20:30:08 GMT
On the teeny, tiny off-chance that there are any seats left for this when I can finally get to a computer on Thursday...
Lovely Theatremonkey, am I right in thinking that in the stalls in this theatre, the only aisle runs down the centre? (Hashtag claustrophobe)
I sat end of row dress a few weeks back and was pretty happy with the seat, though ideally would have gone for the central aisle there also. But hey, we all know Nimax hate to give us any choice in the matter...
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