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Post by Dawnstar on Aug 4, 2021 14:05:34 GMT
Yes, I first watched that in 2012. I could not believe the level of incompetance! I'm not sure whether the most amusing was the one where the horse jumped out of the arena mid-round or when the rider started falling off at the first fence of a combination & the horse jumped the second fence with the rider clinging on underneath! I was amazed that anyone could be qualified to compete at the Olympics while being that bad at part of the competition.
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Post by Phantom of London on Aug 4, 2021 16:22:08 GMT
I am sure for all the medal winners their lives are going to change. So next year I expect to see a few of these competing again, but maybe on Celebrity Masterchef/Bake Off, Strictly Come Dancing, Celebrity Pointless/Chase, The Wheel, Masked Singer and I'm a Celebrity etc.
Same for our great Paralympians.
Maybe treading the boards in a local Pantomime.
And why not, they absolutely earned it and deserve it.
They're a lot more deserving than someone who is famous, just for being famous (fake celebrity).
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Post by HereForTheatre on Aug 4, 2021 16:40:48 GMT
I loved that boxer earlier who was so open about being unhappy with a silver medal. I think that was on of out biggest issues before probably London 2012 actually, where the attitude was for athletes and the public to think they had done a great job if they just got into a final or scraped a bronze. You have seen over the last several years the mentality change to athletes aiming to win and be the best in the world rather than seeming just to be happy to be there.
That's not to say that if you get a silver or bronze or even just reach a final it's not a big achievement in many cases, but it's good to see a mentality where gold is the absolute aim.
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Post by eulenspiegel on Aug 4, 2021 17:57:49 GMT
I wonder how many will still have their medals in 10 years.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 4, 2021 18:03:46 GMT
I wonder how many will still have their medals in 10 years. What do you mean? |
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Post by peggs on Aug 4, 2021 19:45:35 GMT
Guessing the suggestion is they'll have sold them?
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Post by peggs on Aug 4, 2021 19:52:22 GMT
The injuries in the athletics are so disappointing and you clearly would never hope that would happen but it's nice that some lesser sports get a bit of a moment to shine, so the bmx bikers, the skateboarder, the trampoliner (do these words work if I just add er to the end?) and all the others since some of the more high profile and expected medals (rowing) didn't materialise. And even more so when some of these athletes have practically crowd funded themselves there.
How on earth are the climbers hanging on to so little?!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2021 20:26:50 GMT
The injuries in the athletics are so disappointing and you clearly would never hope that would happen but it's nice that some lesser sports get a bit of a moment to shine, so the bmx bikers, the skateboarder, the trampoliner (do these words work if I just add er to the end?) and all the others I get annoyed at the people who say the newer sports to the Games aren't "proper" sports. I'd far rather watch the BMX bikes and the skateboarding than yet another football game. Watching them on the overhang is astonishing. The speed climbs are amazing too: 15 metres straight up in 7 seconds for some of them. I could only do that if they let me use stairs. |
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Post by Dawnstar on Aug 4, 2021 20:33:32 GMT
Watching them on the overhang is astonishing. The speed climbs are amazing too: 15 metres straight up in 7 seconds for some of them. I could only do that if they let me use stairs. 15 metres must equal 4 or 5 flights of house-height stairs so I'd be very impressed if you could do that in 7 seconds! I reckon it'd take me 3-4 seconds just to do the first flight & by the time I got to the last one I'd be significantly slower! |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Aug 4, 2021 20:59:08 GMT
I loved that boxer earlier who was so open about being unhappy with a silver medal. I think that was on of out biggest issues before probably London 2012 actually, where the attitude was for athletes and the public to think they had done a great job if they just got into a final or scraped a bronze. You have seen over the last several years the mentality change to athletes aiming to win and be the best in the world rather than seeming just to be happy to be there. That's not to say that if you get a silver or bronze or even just reach a final it's not a big achievement in many cases, but it's good to see a mentality where gold is the absolute aim. I saw that and thought 'well you should have tried bloody harder'. I know he was up against an amateur great but it was both shocking tactics and performance. |
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Post by peggs on Aug 4, 2021 22:21:40 GMT
I mean what is a sport can get a little woolly round the edges but how it doing 360 flips on a bike or a skateboard not sport? And I'm guessing your average person is probably more likely to have got on a bike or a board than say fencing (which i always fancied a try at). I used to do archery for years, it was an awful lot of standing very still and you didn't get hot and sweaty so people weren't always convinced about that. Thinking back about that really resonates with some of the athletes and struggling mental health. Now i'm not remotely likening my experience to anything we've seen, I did it on a sunday for 'fun', it wasn't my job and I hadn't spent my whole life training for it and I wasn't bad actually but just for like an average person. But I developed a mental block, Id release the arrow when I knew it wasn't on target, every part of my mind was saying don't release and my body just let go and then knowing it was wrong I'd try and auto correct to adjust it and well it just meant instead of pulling my arrow out of the centre I was wandering around looking for it in the ground. And it was totally in my head but I couldn't get past it. If I shot blind (eyes shut with someone else watching to check it was safe) I was fine but couldn't fix it and it made me feel awful, I just would beat myself up about it and just feel utterly wretched and bad about myself. In the end I quit as I figured there were enough things in my life that I couldn't control that made me feel crap without adding another. I still have all my kit and regret it but it took me somewhere very not happy. 15 metres, is that what they're climbing? I'm trying to imagine what that is, is that like average climbing wall size? Is there an average size? I tried climbing once and made it up the wall one time on the easiest holds and just went for it as I knew my strength wouldn't last but I suspect I took ages and that it was that, I couldn't do it a second time, just feel straight off. I think you're meant to take as much weight as possible on your feet, or I guess toes to not just sap your arms but they must be super strong and supple. Wow. I do like that about watching Olympics etc, just that how do people manage that feeling? Even with yers of training and talent etc it's still pretty impressive whether that's climbing, running, jumping or whatever. I get out of a chair and groan  |
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Post by HereForTheatre on Aug 5, 2021 4:30:28 GMT
This Olympics for me is missing that big new GB star and household name coming through. The one that suddenly becomes a national treasure and makes everyone book an appointment to be round the TV when they go for Gold. The new Rebecca Adlington or Mo Farah or Nicola Adams, those types of stars that are made during an Olympics. For me even though we've had some great medals and new personalities pop up there hasn't really been those sort of stars made that we've got from other Olympics, or that really big 'moment' where the nation is on tenterhooks and felt something special to witness, at least as far as I can see. Maybe it's still to come. Probably Dina would have been it and provided that moment if she didn't have her injury and managed to do something special (which seems like a tall order given the rest of the field in that event anyway).
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Post by eulenspiegel on Aug 5, 2021 5:02:36 GMT
Guessing the suggestion is they'll have sold them? No...there are very likely many around the world who will have to send them back in 5, 8, 10 years...because proof of doping.... Many of the results, of the performances are just ridiculous en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stripped_Olympic_medalsOr even more who will be caught in later competitions, training in following year.... Covid has been an excellent time for doping...and if you think that only the Russians... e.g. the mid 30 yo Jamaican sprinter wearing braces... already 10 -15 years ago....many of athletes who used growth hormones and it was common knowledge that they had to wear braces ...so that their jaws survived this It will always be a hare and hedgehog game. in fields and run, athletics, triathlon, in swimming, in biking, cross country skiing, weight-lifting... even in chess many people try to cheat |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2021 10:05:17 GMT
Guessing the suggestion is they'll have sold them? No...there are very likely many around the world who will have to send them back in 5, 8, 10 years...because proof of doping.... I think that's an extremely pessimistic way of looking at it. There have certainly been serious issues with doping in the past, most notably in 2008, 2012 and 2014, but precisely because of that they're now making far greater efforts to prevent it. These days most (if not all) of the main athletes are tested in advance of and during major sporting events. They know where to target the testing, not only from historical data (particular hotspots for doping are weightlifting and athletics) but also from an understanding of which drugs can affect which sports, and they'll also pay attention to anyone who seems to have improved more than might be expected. Technology has moved on over the past few years, not only in our ability to detect trace amounts of drugs but also in algorithms that can flag up statistical anomalies that require further investigation.
People will always want to cheat, but we're getting towards the point where cheating is more effort than being clean.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Aug 5, 2021 10:35:40 GMT
Should have three Olympics. Let's add the Juiced-up Olympics to Olympics and para Olympics.
100m men in eight seconds, weight lifters lifting extraordinary weights, swimmers faster than sharks and AK47's used in the shooting. Something there for everyone. Although my personal favourite may be the equestrian and horses taking ecstasy before dancing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2021 11:25:48 GMT
A few days ago I was thinking that there should be a Yorkshire Olympics, where everyone competes with a ferret down their trousers.
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Post by sfsusan on Aug 5, 2021 11:43:37 GMT
This Olympics for me is missing that big new GB star and household name coming through. Sky Brown? Not only is she remarkable (for any age, not just her young age) but she's got a great attitude. Hugging and congratulating her competition, being able to get out of her head to succeed on her final run. She's got the right attitude, as far as I'm concerned, because it's about being YOUR very best, which isn't necessarily the same as being THE very best. And being 'the best' can (should?) encompass more than winning... winning and losing with grace, giving it your best effort... that's the Olympic ideal. |
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Post by alece10 on Aug 5, 2021 11:47:33 GMT
Must say I am finding it hard to watch the Olympics thus year due to the rights issue and the BBC not being able to broadcast everything. Everytime I turn on the TV its usually sports I have no interest in like Rugby, Football, weight lifting, boxing etc.
But am I right in thinking that we are very poor this time around with regard to athletics? We don't seem to be winning very much at all in this.
Edit. Damm screen keeps moving so posted in wrong place.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Aug 5, 2021 11:50:10 GMT
Well done Holly Bradshaw
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Aug 5, 2021 11:53:54 GMT
This Olympics for me is missing that big new GB star and household name coming through. Sky Brown? Not only is she remarkable (for any age, not just her young age) but she's got a great attitude. Hugging and congratulating her competition, being able to get out of her head to succeed on her final run. She's got the right attitude, as far as I'm concerned, because it's about being YOUR very best, which isn't necessarily the same as being THE very best. And being 'the best' can (should?) encompass more than winning... winning and losing with grace, giving it your best effort... that's the Olympic ideal. Adam Peaty for me as the superstar. A beast of a competitor, redefined his event, still about a second quicker than anyone else, not beaten for six years. One of the countries greatest ever sportsman. Tough crowd here if we are still looking for a superstar |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2021 11:56:15 GMT
She's got the right attitude, as far as I'm concerned, because it's about being YOUR very best, which isn't necessarily the same as being THE very best. And being 'the best' can (should?) encompass more than winning... winning and losing with grace, giving it your best effort... that's the Olympic ideal. That's what I'm enjoying most. It's not the winning; it's the happy smiles of the people who know that they've just given a great performance, and if someone else happens to do better that doesn't take away from the achievement. |
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Post by Mark on Aug 5, 2021 11:58:20 GMT
Have really enjoyed watching her in the event, and she was so close on that last attempt but a bronze is a brilliant achievement. |
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Post by HereForTheatre on Aug 5, 2021 12:00:50 GMT
This Olympics for me is missing that big new GB star and household name coming through. Sky Brown? Not only is she remarkable (for any age, not just her young age) but she's got a great attitude. Hugging and congratulating her competition, being able to get out of her head to succeed on her final run. She's got the right attitude, as far as I'm concerned, because it's about being YOUR very best, which isn't necessarily the same as being THE very best. And being 'the best' can (should?) encompass more than winning... winning and losing with grace, giving it your best effort... that's the Olympic ideal. Absolutely a great achievement but for me it doesn't seem she's got quite the hype some of the stars i mentioned got when they performed at the Olympics. I'm not seeing anyone coming through at that level of hype at this Olympics. Really you have to look at Adam Peaty and wonder why he doesn't quite get that level of attention given his achievements and performance at this games as well getting Gold. |
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Post by alece10 on Aug 5, 2021 12:03:59 GMT
Posted thus in the bad behaviour thread by mistake as the screen keeps jumping which we all know about.
Anyway I'll try again.....
Must say I am finding it hard to watch the Olympics thus year due to the rights issue and the BBC not being able to broadcast everything. Everytime I turn on the TV its usually sports I have no interest in like Rugby, Football, weight lifting, boxing etc.
But am I right in thinking that we are very poor this time around with regard to athletics? We don't seem to be winning very much at all in this.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Aug 5, 2021 12:07:37 GMT
Sky Brown? Not only is she remarkable (for any age, not just her young age) but she's got a great attitude. Hugging and congratulating her competition, being able to get out of her head to succeed on her final run. She's got the right attitude, as far as I'm concerned, because it's about being YOUR very best, which isn't necessarily the same as being THE very best. And being 'the best' can (should?) encompass more than winning... winning and losing with grace, giving it your best effort... that's the Olympic ideal. Adam Peaty for me as the superstar. A beast of a competitor, redefined his event, still about a second quicker than anyone else, not beaten for six years. One of the countries greatest ever sportsman. Tough crowd here if we are still looking for a superstar There's a difference between a sporting superstar because of your achievements and the sort of thing i'm talking about. I remember when half the nation probably stayed up till 3am to watch Rebecca Adlington win her gold in Beijing and she had thousands of people out out on the street for a homecoming parade in her town being broadcast live on the TV because the nation fell in love with her so much. Same with Mo Farah when everybody was gathered round the TV to watch him win Gold in London, same with Jess on the same night. Adam Peaty is AMAZING and swimming really is my fave sport so I totally agree he should be a superstar but he isn't really is he? He's a superstar in swimming and of course seen as incredible sportsman but for whatever reason I don't think that translates to being a superstar with the public or being a nations sweetheart during/from this games. |
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