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Post by partytentdown on May 7, 2021 14:25:38 GMT
From the writer of BEHIND THE IRON MASK/TOO CLOSE TO THE SUN. What could go wrong?
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Post by southstreet on May 7, 2021 14:41:16 GMT
OMG, I can't wait for this! If the previous works are anything to go by, we will be in for an absolute treat!!! I will never forget the evening of hysterical laughter from an audience of about 20 people in the stalls (with the circles all closed), whilst watching Too Close to the Sun. I felt for the cast but I just could not contain myself, it was impossible. LOL
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Post by danb on May 7, 2021 15:09:55 GMT
The same length run as the other two shows then?
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Post by Someone in a tree on May 7, 2021 15:19:54 GMT
Too Close was a very interesting night at the theatre. I got given a badge which I now proudly display on my coolbag and I look very cool at the Open Air theatre.
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Post by mrbarnaby on May 7, 2021 15:52:37 GMT
Why Why Why?
Did he not suffer enough on the other 2 (truly dreadful) shows?
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Post by princeton on May 7, 2021 16:24:45 GMT
It's all really rather tragic.
Professor John Robinson is a retired aerospace engineer and academic - who, despite having no experience or training, dreamt of writing a hit musical. Following his wife's death he decided that he had to get his work to the west end. So he started his own production company to stage his three character musical "Behind The Iron Mask". He produced demo recordings, somehow managed to get investors and book the Duchess Theatre during a summer lull period in 2005. It got universally terrible reviews and posted notice two days later.
That would put most people off - but not John Robinson, who did the same thing again four years later with "Too Close to the Sun". This time it was the Comedy Theatre during a dark couple of summer months, and there were four people in the cast (though once again neither the cast nor the creative team could be described as A list - or even E for that matter). Again terrible reviews and the notice was posted immediately.
And now, more than a decade on, this, from the almost nonagenarian Professor Robinson who is presumably self-producing again (there's no producer listed on the press release). I suppose one should award full marks for persistence but none for awareness. It's difficulty not think that the offstage story is rather more interesting that anything we've seen or are likely to see from the good Professor's seemingly endless cannon of work. I know one shouldn't prejudge, and the old adage is third time lucky, but there's something rather unsavoury about proper theatre professionals taking money from him knowing his track record.
Positioning this as a west end production is preposterous. Given the creatives - surely the Union Theatre is its natural home, where it could creep under the radar. I mean the total number of people who saw Behind the Iron Mask and Too Close to the Sun probably wouldn't even sell out two performances at the Shaftesbury - so there's no way this isn't going to be anything other than a financial disaster, and the idea of filming it to stream just beggars belief. And that's before acknowledging that as a concept it's a terrible idea.
Or maybe Max Bialystock is actually behind the whole thing.
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Post by mrbarnaby on May 8, 2021 7:13:19 GMT
The best thing about Behind the Iron Mask was Sheila Ferguson’s biog that told us she was a ‘super lady’ and owned a large house. Didn’t mention how dreadful she was though.
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Post by Someone in a tree on May 8, 2021 10:05:25 GMT
Funny thing is terrible musicals are only fun in retrospect.Actually watching them are torture.And I've had the "pleasure" of sitting through some doozies. Good flop - Moby Dick & Merrily we roll along* Meh flop - Imagine This And then we have Too close to the sun *Original Broadway production.
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Post by FairyGodmother on May 8, 2021 10:40:34 GMT
A musical version has been done before (it premiered in Cheltenham). I don't think that lasted long though.
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Post by crabtree on May 8, 2021 10:58:25 GMT
Bu Sasha Regan is involved in this, and she is a brilliant and witty and imaginative director. Duds - well metropolis was spectacular with some good tunes, and with Brian Blessed being blown up every night, but......
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Post by mrbarnaby on May 8, 2021 16:09:57 GMT
I have very fond memories of the run of flops at the Shaftesbury.. Lautrec... Napoleon... The Far Pavilions.. Daddy Cool.... Bat Boy...
Napoleon and The F P were spectacular to look at which made it even more memorable how bad they were, when they had some really impressive moments.
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Post by marob on May 8, 2021 16:45:44 GMT
I’ve never seen his earlier works, but then neither has the vast majority of people by the sound of it. I guess I could be tempted to stream it later if it has a decent cast.
Does Sasha Regan cast people she’s already worked with? I imagine Oliver Savile would be perfect for Lady Chatterley’s bit of rough.
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Post by Boob on May 9, 2021 18:20:29 GMT
I have very fond memories of the run of flops at the Shaftesbury.. Lautrec... Napoleon... The Far Pavilions.. Daddy Cool.... Bat Boy... Napoleon and The F P were spectacular to look at which made it even more memorable how bad they were, when they had some really impressive moments. Ah, those were the good old days. I remember all these shows fondly and saw some of them more than once. Highlights include the song “Afghanistan” in The F P, and the random giant parrot in Daddy Cool.
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Post by robertb213 on May 10, 2021 13:36:15 GMT
This can't be a good idea surely! No one should be singing during all those intimate romps in the barn. Although it might be fun to hear if they can find a fitting rhyme for 'throbbing' 🤣
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Post by inthenose on May 10, 2021 14:06:24 GMT
Funny thing is terrible musicals are only fun in retrospect.Actually watching them are torture.And I've had the "pleasure" of sitting through some doozies. Can be, but they can also be some of my most memorable evenings. I remember the extremes, the very good and the very bad. It's the mediocre I find boring and forgettable. Too Close to the Sun was hilarious, as was Behind the Iron Mask. I'll also throw in Exposure the Musical, It Happened in Key West. Some were just plain bad and dull - The Far Pavilions comes to mind
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Post by couldileaveyou on May 21, 2021 12:12:00 GMT
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Post by l0islane on Jun 19, 2021 21:21:38 GMT
Well this was a strange one! An adaptation of Lady Chatterley's Lover which contained no sex, swearing or nudity! It was a pleasant enough watch although I can't recall a single one of the songs and some of the dialogue made me cringe a little. Some of the character choices/changes were mystifying and the rewritten ending had me and the couple I spoke to on the way out very confused!
It was a strange theatre trip actually, a stranger was allocated the seat directly next to mine (no social distancing), luckily there was an extra spare so I moved along one. Then in the interval the couple next to me were discussing the show in not particularly glowing terms and a man in front of them turned round and said (quite aggressively) "I'd like to see you write a show and put it on the stage. Tell me what theatre have you written? I bet you're one of the people posting on Facebook criticising the show!" They were a bit stunned but stood their ground.
Fun times!
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Post by sph on Jun 19, 2021 23:14:41 GMT
Then in the interval the couple next to me were discussing the show in not particularly glowing terms and a man in front of them turned round and said (quite aggressively) "I'd like to see you write a show and put it on the stage. Tell me what theatre have you written? I bet you're one of the people posting on Facebook criticising the show!" They were a bit stunned but stood their ground. Fun times! Oh dear, sounds like they were sat behind a sensitive writer or composer! No doubt all the creatives were in for both performances! I managed to see it this afternoon and sat in the dress circle. A little bland really but quite short and snappy. The ending was a bit... flat, and I didn't quite understand how one of the maids suddenly ended up with the gay writer but, anyway, it was fine. The music was forgettable unfortunately.
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Post by singingbird on Jun 20, 2021 10:28:41 GMT
I was there too... not quite what I expected! Well staged, beautifully sung and very professional. Despite a few cringeworthy rhymes, the score was much stronger and much more lyrical than this composer's last two shows. I would never have recognised it as his work. It reminded me, in style and tone, a bit of the Go-Between musical with Michael Crawford, or perhaps the Benjamin Button one at Southwark. It was really quite beautiful in places, with a wistful melancholy air.
But I think for anyone who loves the source material, this show would be a travesty. I feel like it totally butchers, and massively over-simplifies, the source material. It was also totally unerotic - it washed over anything that made the novel so controversial in its day. And the ending was totally mystifying. The score said 'this is the end' but nothing in the book, or on the stage, did. I have no idea where the characters ended up, how or why.
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