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Post by westendfan on Aug 23, 2022 12:09:18 GMT
Are Gina and Julian doing the rest of the tour after Sadlers Wells does anyone know? I couldn’t remember if they were signed on for the run after or not. Thanks.
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Post by Dawnstar on Aug 23, 2022 12:13:28 GMT
Having checked TodayTix last night & twice today, they've annoyingly had tickets on offer for every day this week except the day I'm looking at going, Thursday. Typical!
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Post by A.Ham on Aug 23, 2022 17:30:29 GMT
Having checked TodayTix last night & twice today, they've annoyingly had tickets on offer for every day this week except the day I'm looking at going, Thursday. Typical! Hi Dawn. I’m sure you’ll have taken a look at the Sadler’s Wells site too, and if it’s showing lots of availability then I’d just keep checking TodayTix and with a bit of luck they’ll apply offer prices to some of the seats 🤞🏻 |
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Post by interval99 on Aug 23, 2022 22:32:05 GMT
Had been holding on for last minute ticket offers due to so many unsold seats on last Sunday matinee but they never came up.
In the end used the online TKTS and while ended up in the circle it was an aisle seat for leg room and superb view and an absolute bargain.
Sunday ended up bit fuller than expected but given reviews and short run it should have sold better.
Certainly worth seeing live and was interesting seeing the changes done from the on-demand screening version.
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Post by mrnutz on Aug 25, 2022 10:24:22 GMT
This is a truly immaculate production. Stunning in every way and I absolutely loved it.
However, the temperature in Sadler's Wells last night was unforgivable - it was like they kept turning the aircon on and off every 5 minutes! Surely inexcusable in a modern building. Maybe they were just trying to immerse us in island life?
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Post by Dawnstar on Aug 25, 2022 12:06:30 GMT
However, the temperature in Sadler's Wells last night was unforgivable - it was like they kept turning the aircon on and off every 5 minutes! Surely inexcusable in a modern building. Maybe they were just trying to immerse us in island life? Oh no. I'm planning on going this evening, if the trains unscrew themselves in time. That's very worry to read that the air con's now not working properly. It was fine when I was last there, on 9th July. I'm not sure I want to go now if it's going to be horribly hot. |
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Post by mrnutz on Aug 25, 2022 12:18:56 GMT
However, the temperature in Sadler's Wells last night was unforgivable - it was like they kept turning the aircon on and off every 5 minutes! Surely inexcusable in a modern building. Maybe they were just trying to immerse us in island life? Oh no. I'm planning on going this evening, if the trains unscrew themselves in time. That's very worry to read that the air con's now not working properly. It was fine when I was last there, on 9th July. I'm not sure I want to go now if it's going to be horribly hot. It's a lot cooler in London today than it was yesterday (and it's raining!), so I wouldn't worry. |
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Post by Dawnstar on Aug 25, 2022 12:35:04 GMT
It's a lot cooler in London today than it was yesterday (and it's raining!), so I wouldn't worry. That's why I'm planning/hoping to go today. But even in cooler weather I've been in theatres that have been boiling & I hate it! |
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Post by TallPaul on Aug 30, 2022 10:05:07 GMT
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Post by Dawnstar on Aug 30, 2022 12:48:31 GMT
TallPaul Yes, I finally made it on Thursday.
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Post by FairyGodmother on Sept 4, 2022 15:38:24 GMT
Would people suggest stalls or dress circle for this? I'm probably going to go for a top band ticket (first trip back to a 'proper' show, I want a treat!), and I know the theatre. But I'm wondering whether the staging would make one preferable over the other.
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Post by inthenose on Sept 4, 2022 15:43:29 GMT
Would people suggest stalls or dress circle for this? I'm probably going to go for a top band ticket (first trip back to a 'proper' show, I want a treat!), and I know the theatre. But I'm wondering whether the staging would make one preferable over the other. Both are fine, I’d suggest not sitting too close for this one. |
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Post by FairyGodmother on Sept 4, 2022 21:00:53 GMT
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Post by Mr Snow on Sept 5, 2022 18:42:03 GMT
His next question was "Why is the actor playing Emile the same age as Nellie?"  Took me a while to work out why I was less than impressed with one of my favourite musicals. Loved the actress playing Nellie and (normally) love Mr Ovendon. However this is the first time I've seen it when I was older than Emile! I've been depressed ever since... |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 5, 2022 18:45:10 GMT
Does that hugely matter though? If so, why?
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Post by Mr Snow on Sept 5, 2022 22:20:19 GMT
Well I've always thought that Emile was the 50 something year old Hammerstein trying to say to his peer group, you can be involved, you can be relevant.
Ovendon just seemed too young AND his tessitura lacks the traditional theatrical gravity of "maturity" i.e. It's a bass\baritone part (though his big notes certainly were impressive).
And I'm only half joking when I say if he's a 'mature' man, then I'm past it.(add something about the truth being hard to take?).
But the production overall just lacked something for me and he was the obvious problem.
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Post by Dawnstar on Sept 6, 2022 11:33:36 GMT
Ovendon just seemed too young AND his tessitura lacks the traditional theatrical gravity of "maturity" i.e. It's a bass\baritone part (though his big notes certainly were impressive). I'm relieved to read someone else saying this. I didn't dare say it after I'd seen the show, as he'd had such good reviews & also I felt guilty in finding him wrong for the role when I've liked him since first seeing him in Foyle's War 20 years ago, but he just seemed wrong as Emile de Becque. Maybe in another decade plus he'll look old enough but at the moment I felt if he shaved off his beard he could almost still get away with playing Lt Cable! The only way I could see it working at the moment would be if they'd cast an actress in her early 20s as Nellie but as it is Gina Beck can't be more than about 7-8 years younger than Ovenden, rendering lines such as him telling her she could go back to America with their children after his death somewhat risable when it looks like he could just as well outlive her as she outlive him. As for his singing, I was reminded of when Placido Domingo started doing baritone roles: beautiful voice, can sing all the notes, but the sound is wrong. |
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Post by TallPaul on Sept 6, 2022 11:36:31 GMT
You shouldn't have worried, Dawnstar. Some of us have been saying it for over a year! |
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Post by Dawnstar on Sept 6, 2022 15:05:07 GMT
TallPaul All the recent comments on here seemed to be pretty postitive so I didn't want to be the one who came along with a list of things I didn't like about the production. (There were a number of things other than Ovenden that I also found less than ideal.)
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Post by Someone in a tree on Sept 6, 2022 15:16:25 GMT
It left me cold
Maybe we should a form support group?
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Post by Mr Snow on Sept 6, 2022 16:03:50 GMT
TallPaul All the recent comments on here seemed to be pretty postitive so I didn't want to be the one who came along with a list of things I didn't like about the production. (There were a number of things other than Ovenden that I also found less than ideal.) Well I'm all ears. It was one of those days when I felt annoyed with myself that I didn't enjoy it more. (Mrs Snow still thinks Mr Ovendon can do no wrong and if cast in Singing in the Rain, he'd walk it!) |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 6, 2022 16:19:18 GMT
I didn’t really care that he looked a bit young for Emile, I mean who cares? The age difference wasn’t that intrinsic to the story was it? It was his background and her innate racism that were the key points.
Anyway I’d rather see it played by someone totally believable as a young(er) woman’s sex object who can act it and sing it than some old fogey doddering about and croaking it out off-key 😐
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Post by Dawnstar on Sept 6, 2022 16:49:18 GMT
Well I'm all ears. It was one of those days when I felt annoyed with myself that I didn't enjoy it more. (Mrs Snow still thinks Mr Ovendon can do no wrong and if cast in Singing in the Rain, he'd walk it!) I felt the same, having been waiting since 2020 to see it, I felt I should have enjoyed it unquestioningly. Okay then, other things I wasn't sure about included:
Bloody Mary also looking very young for the role. She might as well have seduced Cable herself.
The stage being enclosed in the corrugated iron set throughout so the outdoor scenes didn't feel very outdoors. Half the nurses being played by non-white performers, making Nellie's racism very inconsistent as she seemed to have no problem working & socialising with non-white colleagues so her being horrified by de Becque's non-white first wife came out of nowhere. I realise the casting was necessary from a real-life practical point of view, because they need understudies for Bloody Mary & Liat, but from an in-universe point of view it was awkward.
Having de Becque & Cable on stage while there were on Marie Louise Island. Oddly, I found this made that scene less moving than in the other 2 productions I've seen where they were only voice overs & I can't work out why. Liat's interpretative dance. This may be because I dislike contemporary dance in general. More generally, I found myself silently yelling at Cable not to agree to marry Liat because it felt like it'd be a disaster & he'd be wrecking his life.
Ovendon has already been cast in Singing In The Rain. He played Don Lockwood in a concert performance at the RFH in 2010. As far as I recall, he didn't do any dancing.
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Post by fiyero on Sept 7, 2022 7:36:51 GMT
Well I'm all ears. It was one of those days when I felt annoyed with myself that I didn't enjoy it more. (Mrs Snow still thinks Mr Ovendon can do no wrong and if cast in Singing in the Rain, he'd walk it!) I felt the same, having been waiting since 2020 to see it, I felt I should have enjoyed it unquestioningly. Okay then, other things I wasn't sure about included:
Bloody Mary also looking very young for the role. She might as well have seduced Cable herself.
The stage being enclosed in the corrugated iron set throughout so the outdoor scenes didn't feel very outdoors. Half the nurses being played by non-white performers, making Nellie's racism very inconsistent as she seemed to have no problem working & socialising with non-white colleagues so her being horrified by de Becque's non-white first wife came out of nowhere. I realise the casting was necessary from a real-life practical point of view, because they need understudies for Bloody Mary & Liat, but from an in-universe point of view it was awkward.
Having de Becque & Cable on stage while there were on Marie Louise Island. Oddly, I found this made that scene less moving than in the other 2 productions I've seen where they were only voice overs & I can't work out why. Liat's interpretative dance. This may be because I dislike contemporary dance in general. More generally, I found myself silently yelling at Cable not to agree to marry Liat because it felt like it'd be a disaster & he'd be wrecking his life.
Ovendon has already been cast in Singing In The Rain. He played Don Lockwood in a concert performance at the RFH in 2010. As far as I recall, he didn't do any dancing.
I'm not sure if the casting was the same as Chichester but that part sold to me her not understanding why she felt that way. It was OK to work with them, even be friends with them but not to know them in a biblical way, and by extension someone who had. |
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Post by Mr Snow on Sept 7, 2022 12:20:49 GMT
Well I'm all ears. It was one of those days when I felt annoyed with myself that I didn't enjoy it more. (Mrs Snow still thinks Mr Ovendon can do no wrong and if cast in Singing in the Rain, he'd walk it!) I felt the same, having been waiting since 2020 to see it, I felt I should have enjoyed it unquestioningly. Okay then, other things I wasn't sure about included:
Bloody Mary also looking very young for the role. She might as well have seduced Cable herself.
The stage being enclosed in the corrugated iron set throughout so the outdoor scenes didn't feel very outdoors. Half the nurses being played by non-white performers, making Nellie's racism very inconsistent as she seemed to have no problem working & socialising with non-white colleagues so her being horrified by de Becque's non-white first wife came out of nowhere. I realise the casting was necessary from a real-life practical point of view, because they need understudies for Bloody Mary & Liat, but from an in-universe point of view it was awkward.
Having de Becque & Cable on stage while there were on Marie Louise Island. Oddly, I found this made that scene less moving than in the other 2 productions I've seen where they were only voice overs & I can't work out why. Liat's interpretative dance. This may be because I dislike contemporary dance in general. More generally, I found myself silently yelling at Cable not to agree to marry Liat because it felt like it'd be a disaster & he'd be wrecking his life.
Ovendon has already been cast in Singing In The Rain. He played Don Lockwood in a concert performance at the RFH in 2010. As far as I recall, he didn't do any dancing.
All of the above plus There ain't nothin' like a dame may be out of step with our times, but it seemed they had 'sanitised' it and thus it lacked the expected ooomph. And I'd never noticed it before (a change of emphasis?) but the final music being a reprise of Dites-Moi (the weakest song) sent me home on a bum note. I found it a not so enchanting evening. |
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