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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 8, 2021 10:00:35 GMT
I don't know whether it was the sound balance or poor diction but I really struggled with Six. I caught about 50% of what they sang. And that is frustrating. I've never seen Six live but I have never been able to 'get' the show from their performances. I always feel it's pitchy and I can't understand them. Seems like one you have to be in the theatre for. It’s no better live, I can assure you 🙂 |
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Post by Being Alive on Feb 8, 2021 11:11:52 GMT
I mean, respectfully I disagree - I've seen it 6 or 7 times and love it every time.
The songs always work better in the context of the show (always feel that watching their performances on TV).
Sheridan wasn't a great host - she just isn't experienced enough at it - and I wish a few of the other performances had made it in (When You Believe would have been good).
Great to have theatre front and centre on national TV prime time - god I miss it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2021 11:17:24 GMT
You can add me to the list of people for whom Six just 'isn't my thing.'
I like what it's doing, the principles behind it, the female empowerment angle and the fact it brings new audiences to MT.
But for my taste it's a bit more pop concert than MT, the songs are ok but I don't love them and it's a long way from the classic lavish MT I adore.
It clearly connects with a younger audience though. That said, the aggressive fan girl-ing is one of the areas I struggle with as when I went the screaming was distracting on a Wicked cast change/flying cup cakes scale.
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Post by BoOverall on Feb 8, 2021 11:29:20 GMT
You can add me to the list of people for whom Six just 'isn't my thing.' I like what it's doing, the principles behind it, the female empowerment angle and the fact it brings new audiences to MT. But for my taste it's a bit more pop concert than MT, the songs are ok but I don't love them and it's a long way from the classic lavish MT I adore. It clearly connects with a younger audience though. That said, the aggressive fan girl-ing is one of the areas I struggle with as when I went the screaming was distracting on a Wicked cast change/flying cup cakes scale. I enjoyed Six when I saw it with our GCSE and A level students but it was a touch too “you’ve got to scream and dance along” sweeping through the core fan base in the audience. Er, no: only if I feel like it. re: Wicked, I incurred urged the wrath of several of its fan base around me when I first saw it: at the end of Defying Gravity when she just went up, wailing (as I felt at the time) I said to my partner “is that it?...lights, billowing, screaming....nothing more spectacular?”. Oh the death glares I got from the “real fans”...ok, I later became one of those fans....to an extent! |
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Post by stepha on Feb 8, 2021 11:45:13 GMT
Really enjoyed this last night, really cleverly staged and just has me pining to be back in the theatre.
I've been happily surprised by the positive reaction of non-musical theatre loving friends, so pleased it got a prime time slot!
Lea Salonga and Ramin were highlights for me.
I actually thought You'll Be Back was a wrong song choice (even though I really appreciate the way Gavin Stokes performs it) - out of context, I just thought it was weird and not a true taste of Hamilton to draw new audiences in
I love Six but it was a shame how they were limited by their location and the sound seemed off.
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Post by TallPaul on Feb 8, 2021 11:52:35 GMT
One headline I found online, from broadcastnow.co.uk, gives the overnight viewing figure as 4 million, which will obviously grow over the coming days. I don't know anything, but seems reasonable to me by modern standards.
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Post by vickyg on Feb 8, 2021 12:12:19 GMT
Kerry Ellis said on IG that she had already gained 400 followers overnight so it’s obviously being watched by ‘new’ people. Hopefully it stirs up real demand once performances are back on.
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Post by theatreian on Feb 8, 2021 12:18:18 GMT
I think you are selling yourself short here!! |
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Post by ceebee on Feb 8, 2021 13:45:26 GMT
You can add me to the list of people for whom Six just 'isn't my thing.' I like what it's doing, the principles behind it, the female empowerment angle and the fact it brings new audiences to MT. But for my taste it's a bit more pop concert than MT, the songs are ok but I don't love them and it's a long way from the classic lavish MT I adore. It clearly connects with a younger audience though. That said, the aggressive fan girl-ing is one of the areas I struggle with as when I went the screaming was distracting on a Wicked cast change/flying cup cakes scale. I asked my two daughters (12 and 9) if they'd like to see "Six" - eldest said "...not really - seems everybody needs to have a platform to feel empowered these days... I know myself as a girl and don't need to be part of a collective to feel stronger, plus it looks like they're just prancing around and dressed like the stereotypes they're trying to reject, and attracting the stereotypes they're trying to empower... I quite like just being a normal girl." I like her thinking. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2021 14:43:41 GMT
They could easily turn this into a series quite quickly Reduce the orchestra size a bit to help with cost. But 6 x 1hr shows could be ready by Easter. Just change the presenter and only use proper singers. I think a 6-parter might be squeezing it, but it was calling out for another chunk after. It could have done with a follow up "Musicals: The Show Must Go On" on BBC4 with less of the karaoke hit songs; like some bits out of SundayITPWG, Love Never Dies, Miss Saigon, JCS, Little Shop, etc. Sheridan Smith (urgg), presenting the show for all the gin sipping aunties out there; forgetting there's a whole audience of other people watching, some really weak links from her. If they wanted cheese, John Barrowman was a missed trick. Standard BBC concert affair with a Lighting Director with ADHD - pixel mapped lighting effects upstaging the content. The reverse auditorium approach worked, like all the other shows Stream Theatre have been doing from The Palladium. It's just a shame they didn't show off that much of the brilliant architecture of theatre, instead hiding it in the dark/masking it off. They may as well have done it in a studio. |
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Post by alece10 on Feb 8, 2021 16:14:14 GMT
They could easily turn this into a series quite quickly Reduce the orchestra size a bit to help with cost. But 6 x 1hr shows could be ready by Easter. Just change the presenter and only use proper singers. I think a 6-parter might be squeezing it, but it was calling out for another chunk after. It could have done with a follow up "Musicals: The Show Must Go On" on BBC4 with less of the karaoke hit songs; like some bits out of SundayITPWG, Love Never Dies, Miss Saigon, JCS, Little Shop, etc. Sheridan Smith (urgg), presenting the show for all the gin sipping aunties out there; forgetting there's a whole audience of other people watching, some really weak links from her. If they wanted cheese, John Barrowman was a missed trick. Standard BBC concert affair with a Lighting Director with ADHD - pixel mapped lighting effects upstaging the content. The reverse auditorium approach worked, like all the other shows Stream Theatre have been doing from The Palladium. It's just a shame they didn't show off that much of the brilliant architecture of theatre, instead hiding it in the dark/masking it off. They may as well have done it in a studio. I get you don't like Sheridan Smith which is fine but don't put comments like "for all the gin sipping aunties out there". It's just rude and patronising to all the people who do like her. I like her and I'm neither an auntie or a gin drinker thank you very much. |
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Post by alece10 on Feb 8, 2021 16:16:42 GMT
One headline I found online, from broadcastnow.co.uk, gives the overnight viewing figure as 4 million, which will obviously grow over the coming days. I don't know anything, but seems reasonable to me by modern standards. I don't think 4 million is bad at all for an evening of musical theatre and that number will only go up with catch up. I know a few people who are not MT people and watched it. They all said they really enjoyed it. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2021 16:35:31 GMT
I think a 6-parter might be squeezing it, but it was calling out for another chunk after. It could have done with a follow up "Musicals: The Show Must Go On" on BBC4 with less of the karaoke hit songs; like some bits out of SundayITPWG, Love Never Dies, Miss Saigon, JCS, Little Shop, etc. Sheridan Smith (urgg), presenting the show for all the gin sipping aunties out there; forgetting there's a whole audience of other people watching, some really weak links from her. If they wanted cheese, John Barrowman was a missed trick. Standard BBC concert affair with a Lighting Director with ADHD - pixel mapped lighting effects upstaging the content. The reverse auditorium approach worked, like all the other shows Stream Theatre have been doing from The Palladium. It's just a shame they didn't show off that much of the brilliant architecture of theatre, instead hiding it in the dark/masking it off. They may as well have done it in a studio. I get you don't like Sheridan Smith which is fine but don't put comments like "for all the gin sipping aunties out there". It's just rude and patronising to all the people who do like her. I like her and I'm neither an auntie or a gin drinker thank you very much. Noted. To clarify though, that was more a comment on her presenting technique rather than her target. I found it rather alienating, jarring and ultimately a little condescending. |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Feb 8, 2021 16:48:09 GMT
I did get annoyed with SS speaking over the final beats of each song. Let the music speak...
Also the way IKHSW was directed with the performers turning and smiling broadly at one another completely went against the meaning of the lyrics.
I don't like SS hence preferring a different presenter if they ever repeated the idea.
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Post by alece10 on Feb 8, 2021 17:04:18 GMT
I did get annoyed with SS speaking over the final beats of each song. Let the music speak... Also the way IKHSW was directed with the performers turning and smiling broadly at one another completely went against the meaning of the lyrics. I don't like SS hence preferring a different presenter if they ever repeated the idea. I agree with you regarding IKHSW, it was a bit of a love fest but I believe the links were filmed separately so that would be the fault of editing rather than SS talking over the music. |
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Post by danb on Feb 8, 2021 17:22:20 GMT
I know that I could just find the concert on bbc sounds, but can anyone tell me what was cut for the tv broadcast?
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Post by alece10 on Feb 8, 2021 17:25:19 GMT
I know that I could just find the concert on bbc sounds, but can anyone tell me what was cut for the tv broadcast? EP sang, Josh Grobin sang, there was an interview with Leyton Williams and some more bits I can't remember |
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Post by danb on Feb 8, 2021 18:23:06 GMT
I know that I could just find the concert on bbc sounds, but can anyone tell me what was cut for the tv broadcast? EP sang, Josh Grobin sang, there was an interview with Leyton Williams and some more bits I can't remember What did Groban sing? |
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Post by alece10 on Feb 8, 2021 18:37:32 GMT
Don't quote me but I think it was The Impossible Dream.
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Post by stevemar on Feb 8, 2021 18:42:31 GMT
I really enjoyed this. Well produced and staged, and great prime time TV. The choice of songs was populist, but well spread amongst classics and more recent fare.
The lighting was great, full orchestra and range of singers good. Also, there was no "filler" like many TV broadcasts. No complaints here. It would be nice to see more, but I doubt they will commission a full series.
This was actually much better than the Radio 2 broadcast (still on BBC Sounds app) which was almost 2 hours - mostly extra filler from Layton Williams on upcoming musicals, short interviews and Josh Groban. Also, the finale there was Michael Ball (You Can't Stop the Beat).
I don't love Sheridan Smith but thought she was fine. The more obvious choices of presenters - say, Michael Ball, Jason Manford or Graham Norton I am sure would also divide the crowd here too!
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Post by alece10 on Feb 8, 2021 18:44:12 GMT
Just had a conversation with someone who likes musicals but not a big fan.
They watched the programme last night, enjoyed it and said they liked Sheridan, Phantom, the duet with Amanda Holden, Hamilton (although they have no idea about Hamilton, just liked the song).
They didn't like "the big woman screaming"
- Dreamgirls, and the "gay boy" - Leyton Williams.
I think that could be quite representative of the average non MT person.
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Post by ruthieh on Feb 8, 2021 18:45:46 GMT
Don't quote me but I think it was The Impossible Dream. It was |
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Post by stevemar on Feb 8, 2021 18:45:55 GMT
Don't quote me but I think it was The Impossible Dream. To quote you, it was! Couldn't get the list on the Sounds app, so well remembered. A shame for him that I think he was the only main performer cut from the BBC One show. (Calls his agent to lobby/complain..) |
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Post by theatreian on Feb 8, 2021 18:49:27 GMT
My highlights were DEH and Ramin. Enjoyed it as a show and great to see musicals again. Six did not persuade me to go and see it and some of the vocals were definitely off key. Leyton sounded like he had a cold as he sounded quite raspy(if that is a word!).
Sheridan's presenting style is a bit over the top and she shouldn't have had 2 numbers really when others were cut.
The presentation though and staging was great.
While we are on the Sheridan subject she did Gary Barlow's crooner session today with Endless love:
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Feb 8, 2021 20:03:18 GMT
I caught it from Dreamgirls but the script was cringe. The orchestra was beaut. Annoyed the West End Performers ensemble were not even credited at the very end. Bad form!
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