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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 17:51:31 GMT
Another couple of songs;
'Playing the Game' in Mary Poppins - I much prefer 'Temper, Temper'
Then I was about to say 'Queen of Pop' replacing 'Double Bubble Duchess' in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory in London, but then remembered it went to Broadway and quite a lot of it was replaced anyway. LOL.
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Post by saral on Feb 4, 2021 1:28:10 GMT
Are we including songs written for a movie version?
Beautiful ghosts - Cats
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2021 11:37:26 GMT
Witches of Eastwick - Glory of Me replacing "Who's the man"
"I love a little town" was also replaced but I cannot for the life of me remember the title
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Post by alece10 on Feb 4, 2021 11:40:47 GMT
Not only did Sondheims Bounce add songs it completely changed the name of the show to Roadshow and added a gay relationship.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2021 11:42:59 GMT
Are we including songs written for a movie version? Beautiful ghosts - Cats And Learn To Be Lonely for Phantom. What was the name of the new JVJ song in Les Mis that he sang in the carriage on the way to Paris?
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Post by fluxcapacitor on Feb 4, 2021 13:08:54 GMT
Wasn't 'Dancing Through Life' added to Wicked after San Francisco? It replaced one called 'Life Of The Party' I think. And one called 'Making Good' was dropped and replaced with 'The Wizard & I' 😁 That’s right! Dancing Through Life replaced Which Way’s the Party. Wizard and I was written especially for Idina Menzel when she was cast for Broadway. Idina Menzel played Elphaba in the San Francisco tryouts too, she wasn’t newly cast for Broadway. Wizard and I was definitely an addition at some point, but it will have gone in either during or before the SF tryouts, not for Broadway. There are bootlegs of it floating around from the SF run.
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Post by Mark on Feb 4, 2021 13:11:52 GMT
That’s right! Dancing Through Life replaced Which Way’s the Party. Wizard and I was written especially for Idina Menzel when she was cast for Broadway. Idina Menzel played Elphaba in the San Francisco tryouts too, she wasn’t newly cast for Broadway. Wizard and I was definitely an addition at some point, but it will have gone in either during or before the SF tryouts, not for Broadway. There are bootlegs of it floating around from the SF run. Aah yes, I remember now that SJB was cast in the workshops and then Menzel took over.
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Post by c4ndyc4ne on Feb 4, 2021 15:39:52 GMT
Wizard of Oz - 5 new ALW songs I see Lloyd Webber's version of The Wizard of Oz more as a new adaptation than a revival as it has a different book by himself and Jeremy Sams to the 1987 RSC adaptation by John Kane which is the one that many regional theatres/schools/amdrams have since used (granted it is still very close to the film's screenplay - which arguably so is ALW's). So I think the fact ALW and Tim Rice felt the need to add more songs was what gave the whole thing a complete overhaul to work on stage. But whilst the Birmingham REP's 2018 production looked and sounded like Oz as never before, it was still the RSC adaptation (with a few extra lines/references to the gender changes etc.), however that production included the apple trees singing a song as the set changed into the Tin Man scene. I'm not sure what the lyrics were, nor can I find the song online but the music was the same bit that you hear as the underscore in the film as Dorothy goes to take an apple from the tree. So maybe lyrics were added to that piece of music for that specific production, as I don't believe it has been in any other...? Onto another musical, Tim Minchin recently revealed that he has written a new song for the upcoming Matilda movie so I wonder if that will that be added to the stage show in the same way that "Could We Start Again Please" (Jesus Christ Superstar) "Mean Green Mother" (Little Shop of Horrors) and probably other examples were subsequently added. Oh wow – where did Minchin say this?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2021 16:15:20 GMT
I see Lloyd Webber's version of The Wizard of Oz more as a new adaptation than a revival as it has a different book by himself and Jeremy Sams to the 1987 RSC adaptation by John Kane which is the one that many regional theatres/schools/amdrams have since used (granted it is still very close to the film's screenplay - which arguably so is ALW's). So I think the fact ALW and Tim Rice felt the need to add more songs was what gave the whole thing a complete overhaul to work on stage. But whilst the Birmingham REP's 2018 production looked and sounded like Oz as never before, it was still the RSC adaptation (with a few extra lines/references to the gender changes etc.), however that production included the apple trees singing a song as the set changed into the Tin Man scene. I'm not sure what the lyrics were, nor can I find the song online but the music was the same bit that you hear as the underscore in the film as Dorothy goes to take an apple from the tree. So maybe lyrics were added to that piece of music for that specific production, as I don't believe it has been in any other...? Onto another musical, Tim Minchin recently revealed that he has written a new song for the upcoming Matilda movie so I wonder if that will that be added to the stage show in the same way that "Could We Start Again Please" (Jesus Christ Superstar) "Mean Green Mother" (Little Shop of Horrors) and probably other examples were subsequently added. Oh wow – where did Minchin say this? He has confirmed it over quite a few interview/podcast appearances over the last year i.e. this video... He also did mention it when he did an Instagram live on Tuesday (which of course was Groundhog Day!) but hasn't been specific about it other than it is one that he himself likes!
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Post by nick on Feb 4, 2021 20:57:19 GMT
Am I right in thinking Beautiful City was added to Godspell?
Edit: Wikipedia says so - must be true.
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Post by fluxcapacitor on Feb 4, 2021 21:32:44 GMT
Am I right in thinking Beautiful City was added to Godspell? Edit: Wikipedia says so - must be true. It's also not on the original Off-Broadway Cast Recording, so Wikipedia have their facts correct on this one!
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Post by Peter on Feb 7, 2021 9:26:17 GMT
Witches of Eastwick - Glory of Me replacing "Who's the man" "I love a little town" was also replaced but I cannot for the life of me remember the title Yes, ‘The Glory of Me’ was added during the London run when the show transferred to the Prince of Wales. ‘I Love a Little Town’ remained for the entire original run and was still present (with an extended dance break) in the subsequent Australian staging, but was replaced by ‘Darryl Van Horne’ for the Signature and UK Tour versions. These also added ‘Your Wildest Dreams’ in place of ‘Eye of the beholder’.
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Post by Peter on Feb 7, 2021 10:18:33 GMT
Someone else noted that By Jeeves was a re-written version of Jeeves, but I think that even the new version went through a couple of opening songs, starting with ‘Code of the Woosters’, which was replaced by ‘Wooster will entertain you’, and that was then retitled Never Fear for Broadway. Also, ‘Love’s Maze’ was added to the show between the Scarborough tryout and London, replacing ‘Deadlier than the male’
Didn’t Passion have a song added to the original London production?
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Post by couldileaveyou on Feb 7, 2021 10:45:06 GMT
Someone else noted that By Jeeves was a re-written version of Jeeves, but I think that even the new version went through a couple of opening songs, starting with ‘Code of the Woosters’, which was replaced by ‘Wooster will entertain you’, and that was then retitled Never Fear for Broadway. Also, ‘Love’s Maze’ was added to the show between the Scarborough tryout and London, replacing ‘Deadlier than the male’ Didn’t Passion have a song added to the original London production? "No One Has Ever Loved Me" was partially rewritten for the London run as a big solo that Giorgio sings in front of Dr Tambourri and then briefly reprises to Fosca ("Scene Fourteen" in the cast recording). Actually, I think the longer version was cut during previews on Broadway (when it was called " I Love Fosca") and then restored to showcase Michael Ball's singing. I think all the productions that came after the West End debut have cut the extended version of the song and kept only the shorter version that Giorgio sings to Fosca before their night together. Coincidentally, "Loving You" was added during previews, although I don't think this kind of songs should be included in this thread.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Feb 7, 2021 12:51:27 GMT
Someone else noted that By Jeeves was a re-written version of Jeeves, but I think that even the new version went through a couple of opening songs, starting with ‘Code of the Woosters’, which was replaced by ‘Wooster will entertain you’, and that was then retitled Never Fear for Broadway. Also, ‘Love’s Maze’ was added to the show between the Scarborough tryout and London, replacing ‘Deadlier than the male’ Didn’t Passion have a song added to the original London production? "No One Has Ever Loved Me" was partially rewritten for the London run as a big solo that Giorgio sings in front of Dr Tambourri and then briefly reprises to Fosca ("Scene Fourteen" in the cast recording). Actually, I think the longer version was cut during previews on Broadway (when it was called " I Love Fosca") and then restored to showcase Michael Ball's singing. I think all the productions that came after the West End debut have cut the extended version of the song and kept only the shorter version that Giorgio sings to Fosca before their night together. Coincidentally, "Loving You" was added during previews, although I don't think this kind of songs should be included in this thread. Apparently on theOBC Passion DVD with commentary you do get a version of Loving You sung by the Jere Shea. I'm the Hat books sondheim talks about liking the song but Lapine thinks it's too grand so out it went. I really like it. Plus it helps to tell G's side of the story. I'm the Chatalet version Sondheim gave them the rights to perform it - Yay and it was fabulous 😁❤️👌
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Post by FairyGodmother on Feb 7, 2021 22:47:48 GMT
Any musical made into a film will have one added so they can go for the Academy Award for Best Original Song. Cynical, moi?
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Post by JJShaw on Feb 8, 2021 11:34:12 GMT
Any musical made into a film will have one added so they can go for the Academy Award for Best Original Song. Cynical, moi? Absolutely not cynical! Especially since its pretty much true for every single one! I can think of Hairspray and Into the Woods who decided to cut their additional song (although Hairspray still had their end credits one which I love!)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2021 12:41:20 GMT
Any musical made into a film will have one added so they can go for the Academy Award for Best Original Song. Cynical, moi? As I said on the previous page of this thread!
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Post by FairyGodmother on Feb 8, 2021 13:12:41 GMT
Any musical made into a film will have one added so they can go for the Academy Award for Best Original Song. Cynical, moi? As I said on the previous page of this thread! Sorry poster J! They do say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. (And possibly that if you read threads when half asleep you're liable to miss things...)
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Post by musicalmarge on Feb 12, 2021 1:26:00 GMT
Every Movie’s A Circus - Sunset Boulevard A great addition!
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Post by musicalmarge on Feb 12, 2021 1:33:28 GMT
Gosh, loads. Could do the ALW ones. Joseph - About half of it. King Of My Heart for the 00s version. JCS - Could We Start Again Please (well, added for the stage version I guess) Evita - You Must Love Me Cats - The various Italian things that replaced Ballad Of Billy McCaw. Song and Dance - Unexpected Song (though melody was already there) Starlight - Make Up My Heart, Crazy, Next Time You Fall In Love, I Do, Whole Lotta Locomotion, I Got Me, Megamix (deffo the ALW show with the most new songs). Sunset - many interlinking sections By Jeeves - About half of it compared to Jeeves Whistle Down The Wind - The Gang Beautiful Game - Boys In The Photograph Tell Me On A Sunday - Multiple, for the DVO version. Wizard of Oz - 5 new ALW songs Love Never Dies - new melody to verses in Beauty Underneath (and lots of re-ordering of stuff) Phantom stage show, Aspects, Woman In White, School of Rock have yet (I think) to get a new song! There are also loads of songs removed and general re-writing. "Musicals aren't written, they are re-written" as they always say. A couple of other from faves of mine. Miss Saigon - Maybe (God I wish they'd put It's Her Or Me back in). Chess - Someone Else's Story. Then that Act 2 opener that Burke sang at the ENO. The WORST decision ever made in theatre was to cut It's Her Or Me
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Post by chernjam on Feb 12, 2021 5:56:29 GMT
I think that for Aspects of Love - There is More to Love was added either late in previews or after the opening
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 9:59:08 GMT
Gosh, loads. Could do the ALW ones. Joseph - About half of it. King Of My Heart for the 00s version. JCS - Could We Start Again Please (well, added for the stage version I guess) Evita - You Must Love Me Cats - The various Italian things that replaced Ballad Of Billy McCaw. Song and Dance - Unexpected Song (though melody was already there) Starlight - Make Up My Heart, Crazy, Next Time You Fall In Love, I Do, Whole Lotta Locomotion, I Got Me, Megamix (deffo the ALW show with the most new songs). Sunset - many interlinking sections By Jeeves - About half of it compared to Jeeves Whistle Down The Wind - The Gang Beautiful Game - Boys In The Photograph Tell Me On A Sunday - Multiple, for the DVO version. Wizard of Oz - 5 new ALW songs Love Never Dies - new melody to verses in Beauty Underneath (and lots of re-ordering of stuff) Phantom stage show, Aspects, Woman In White, School of Rock have yet (I think) to get a new song! There are also loads of songs removed and general re-writing. "Musicals aren't written, they are re-written" as they always say. A couple of other from faves of mine. Miss Saigon - Maybe (God I wish they'd put It's Her Or Me back in). Chess - Someone Else's Story. Then that Act 2 opener that Burke sang at the ENO. The WORST decision ever made in theatre was to cut It's Her Or Me Agree - absolutely criminal. And reducing Ellen's moment to shine to such a mediocre song; pretty much in the 11 o'clock slot. Awful!
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Post by FairyGodmother on Feb 12, 2021 10:11:16 GMT
Agreed. It's losing the tune I'm sad about — it's left dangling in the overture, and I think some if the underscoring now.
It's Her or Me or Now That I've Seen Her would have been fine.
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