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Post by zahidf on Sept 4, 2020 8:16:43 GMT
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 4, 2020 8:31:26 GMT
It can be, However, smart managers know that there's nothing to be saved by doing that. You can get cheaper people by outsourcing to lower-paid countries, but you also have to take into account that the best people in those countries will be able to get the best jobs and will be able to move to the companies that pay higher wages. If you employ only lower-paid workers you're picking from a pool of people who aren't good enough to command better pay. About 20 years ago the last company I worked for had a huge project to complete and needed to expand for a while. There was no room in the office to put temporary staff so they used remote working, and because they were using remote working they could get staff from anywhere in the world and eventually engaged a Latvian company to handle it. They found they could get different levels of workers. They could get people for half the UK salary but they were only suited for repetitive, simple work and if they hit a problem they would just stop. To get people who would take ownership of their projects, solve problems, manage themselves and see the work through to completion they had to pay UK wages, and that's what they did. Unfortunately there are some managers who have a higher opinion of their own intelligence than is justified and a distinctly racist attitude that third-world workers aren't smart enough to realise how much they're worth. They think they're being really clever, but the Internet is full of stories of companies failing because they don't realise the low quality of the get-what-you-pay-for work until an immense amount of damage has been done. The good employees have their pick of all the companies in the world that employ remote workers and they're playing the market too, and it takes some managers a while to understand that they can't outsmart the poor ignorant third-worlders into turning in great work for almost nothing. To use the term ‘third world’ is a middle class racist term in itself. Believe me it is possible to do British Law degree or accountancy degree And maybe a computer programming degree can be done in Mumbai or Durban, you would get get plenty of brilliant employees where £10k a year is plenty. Our I.T. Helpdesk in Cape Town are brilliant. if you have a job that can be done solely at home, most jobs can be outsourced to somewhere cheaper, it is called off-shoring, it can be equally done with products or people. It’s actually called right shoring these days. Putting the work in the right place based on skills, costs, customer satisfaction etc rather than just going for the cheapest option. |
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Post by theatreian on Sept 4, 2020 9:13:20 GMT
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Post by lynette on Sept 6, 2020 12:08:54 GMT
I’d go for all three of these. NT, I hear your silence. |
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Post by talkingheads on Sept 6, 2020 12:15:29 GMT
I’d go for all three of these. NT, I hear your silence. Quite a lot of criticism online it seems for choosing three plays by white male authors, and I have to say I do see their point. |
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Post by lynette on Sept 6, 2020 12:28:52 GMT
Yes but although I don’t know the Mamet, the other two have small casts, naturally 'distanced! So will accord with the prevailing zeitgeist regardless of whether the actors actually bubble or distance in real life. And quite frankly I think we should tackle one thing at a time. Get the theatres going with what we can use now and then see what talent we have in the writing. The best is the enemy of the good.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Sept 7, 2020 8:12:36 GMT
Yes but although I don’t know the Mamet, the other two have small casts, naturally 'distanced! So will accord with the prevailing zeitgeist regardless of whether the actors actually bubble or distance in real life. And quite frankly I think we should tackle one thing at a time. Get the theatres going with what we can use now and then see what talent we have in the writing. The best is the enemy of the good. Another small cast for Oleanna. Saw a version at the Buxton Opera House many years ago. Pinter played the male lead when it first opened in the west end. Always wanted to go back to this play |
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Post by princeton on Sept 7, 2020 9:13:53 GMT
Harold Pinter actually directed the original Royal Court production which then transferred to the Duke of York's. It was David Suchet who played the male lead opposite Lia Williams, they were replaced later in the run by Denis Lawson and Michelle Fairley respectively.
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Post by zahidf on Sept 7, 2020 9:21:25 GMT
Looks like palladium are doing more this year
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Post by Sam on Sept 7, 2020 9:27:51 GMT
Looks like palladium are doing more this year 2nd May 2021, though they do have an evening with Graham Norton scheduled for 27th September which goes on sale on Wednesday and some other events in October. |
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Post by zahidf on Sept 7, 2020 12:24:06 GMT
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Post by TallPaul on Sept 12, 2020 11:26:25 GMT
After the postponement of A Little Night Music, Leeds Playhouse and Opera North have announced they will be collaborating on a new project this autumn, at the Playhouse, called Connecting Voices.
And the Pomegranate Theatre in Chesterfield has announced a season of plays to compliment its film screenings, plus there's An Evening with Kevin and Joanne Clifton at the nearby Winding Wheel.
Anything from the RSC yet, with its £15 million of public funding? 😉
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 12, 2020 12:19:44 GMT
After the postponement of A Little Night Music, Leeds Playhouse and Opera North have announced they will be collaborating on a new project this autumn, at the Playhouse, called Connecting Voices. And the Pomegranate Theatre in Chesterfield has announced a season of plays to compliment its film screenings, plus there's An Evening with Kevin and Joanne Clifton at the nearby Winding Wheel.Anything from the RSC yet, with its £15 million of public funding? 😉 I used to live in Chesterfield and I remember pre-cruise Jane Mcdonald getting booed off stage at the Winding Wheel. Or it might have been t’ Birdholme Club |
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Post by TallPaul on Sept 12, 2020 12:36:21 GMT
I know you did, BurlyBeaR. "Usual reason" was how I think you put it. Does that mean you were there when it happened? I sincerely hope you didn't join in! 😡 I'm sure there will be nothing of that sort for Kev and Jo, just an obligatory (and fully justified) standing ovation. |
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Post by zahidf on Sept 13, 2020 8:30:49 GMT
Showing Cameron mackintosh how its done....
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Post by zahidf on Sept 13, 2020 8:41:29 GMT
Adam kay 'this is going to hurt' at the apollo theatre from Oct 22
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2020 8:56:00 GMT
So following today's excellent announcement from Nimax, I was trying to work out which theatres have NOT announced anything significant - by which I mean one or more of
- staged ticketed performance or event in the venue
- livestreamed performance or event
- streaming original content made during lockdown
- widely accessible streaming of archive content
Here's the ones I can think of, happy to be corrected if I'm being unfair! I'm sure there are other regional ones which could be added. I've not included small pub theatres.
Subsidised sector:
Almeida ("Albion" on BBC4 predated lockdown)
Arcola
Hampstead (streamed some archive plays for free early in lockdown, nothing since)
Orange Tree
Royal Court (running a pop-up bar in Sloane Square)
RSC (a few bits and pieces in a park but nothing significant)
Non-subsidised fringe theatres
Menier (Silent since lockdown. Don't even seem to have opened the restaurant. Webpage just has a big advert asking for donations)
Commercial sector
ATG
Delfont Mackintosh
(Removed CFT as it’s been pointed out below they will be announcing a season soon)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2020 9:00:15 GMT
Showing Cameron mackintosh how its done.... Hurrah! I’ll go first: Will there be day seats? How high is the stage? |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Sept 13, 2020 9:09:06 GMT
@xanderl Chichester did some showtunes in the park but I think that's about it.
I do find it staggering that some public funded theatres appear to have done nothing.
My hat does go off for the likes of Southwark Playhouse and the Watermill - bravo
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Post by talkingheads on Sept 13, 2020 9:12:51 GMT
Showing Cameron mackintosh how its done.... Brilliant! If The Play That Goes Wrong is back I'll snap up tickets, if there's one play that can instantly cheer me up it's that! |
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Post by Forrest on Sept 13, 2020 9:14:29 GMT
Here's the ones I can think of, happy to be corrected if I'm being unfair! I'm sure there are other regional ones which could be added. I've not included small pub theatres. Subsidised sector: Almeida ("Albion" on BBC4 predated lockdown) It makes me so sad to see the Almeida standing so completely still amidst all of this. (They did do some streamed content at one point, but no actual plays.) I was hoping they would at least open the bar once everyone else started doing so, but nothing... (Not judging, just curious why this is the case - I do believe all smaller theatres are doing the best they can...) I also did wonder if the fact that their actual auditorium is in a basement with hardly ideal air circulation/air-conditioning may be preventing the Court from reopening, too? (Would it be safe and would people feel safe in there?) |
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Post by zahidf on Sept 13, 2020 9:18:33 GMT
Chichester are announcing a socially distant autumn season on Sept 24th
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2020 10:42:06 GMT
I was hoping they would at least open the bar once everyone else started doing so, but nothing... (Not judging, just curious why this is the case - I do believe all smaller theatres are doing the best they can...) Yes, absolutely - I'm not judging the smaller theatres, but it is odd that some seem to be doing nothing. That's a good point. Also the layout of the theatre with a single narrow staircase might make it difficult to operate. On the other hand - there seems no practical reason why any of these theatres can't (for instance) live stream a performance from an empty auditorium (as Southwark and the Old Vic among others are doing) or create productions elsewhere (as Jermyn Street and the Park Theatre have done) or regularly put out archive recordings (as the Finborough has done). Chichester are announcing a socially distant autumn season on Sept 24th Thanks, good news - I've updated my original post to reflect this. I think that leaves the RSC as the only subsidised theatre of that size to be doing virtually nothing. As I said above, I'm not judging the smaller theatres but I am judging the RSC. |
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Post by n1david on Sept 13, 2020 12:53:19 GMT
It makes me so sad to see the Almeida standing so completely still amidst all of this. (They did do some streamed content at one point, but no actual plays.) I was hoping they would at least open the bar once everyone else started doing so, but nothing... (Not judging, just curious why this is the case - I do believe all smaller theatres are doing the best they can...) I too am sorry to see nothing from the Almeida - I walk past the theatre most days and the foyer is still filled with the stuff that they were working on for the setup for their next show, "Daddy". So I guess they wouldn't be able to open the bar until they can clear the foyer (given that the smaller space along the street would have fairly low capacity under distancing rules). They may not have the technical staff to clear the foyer, as there's a LOT of stuff filling the space at the moment, or they might have been waiting to see if they can reopen with "Daddy" in which case they would just carry on from where they left off, although that seems less likely with every passing week. |
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Post by Forrest on Sept 13, 2020 14:17:55 GMT
@xanderl, I agree with you: there are admittedly some who seem to be a lot more creative than others at finding ways to offer something, even if it isn't new (streams etc.). But I presume they've all got their reasons, and that things happening behind the scenes we know nothing about adequately inform those decisions. TBH, I couldn't even blame the ADs if they just felt uncomfortable opening because of the chances of someone getting ill, if the option of a socially-distanced reopening wasn't financially viable anyway (which it might not be). (Never thought you were judging, btw.) (One thing I wish the Almeida had thought to do was to diversify their membership categories since this has started: their membership scheme, unlike e.g. the Court's, is quite pricey (with far fewer perks in comparison), and I think that's something they could have done to try and get more supporters on board.) n1david, ha, we must be neighbours! (I cannot believe I never thought about what 'n1' meant in your nickname!) I pass by the Almeida often too (well, I haven't for a month now, because I was away and I'm now in self-isolation, but it is usually on my daily walking route), and it makes me even sadder to see it left in such a state. I am particularly sentimental about the Almeida, because it was the first London theatre I fell in love with. I specifically looked for an apartment close by, since I was really hoping for a FOH job there, but that clearly never happened... :) |
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