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Post by Dawnstar on Jul 7, 2020 12:32:35 GMT
The announcement of the £1.57 billion bailout stated that one of the priorities would be to keep open "crown jewel" venues such as the Royal Albert Hall. I've been musing on which venues I'd consider to be "crown jewels" that I'd prioritise saving if I was in charge of the bailout. So I thought I'd start a thread on it. These aren't necessarily venues that I myself am particularly keen on or visit very often (I've only seen 3 performances at the NT in my life) but ones that I consider it to be important that they should be preserved for the future. I've limited myself to 10 & they're in no particular order except that the ROH is definitely my top priority.
Royal Opera House Royal Albert Hall
The Globe Palladium Theatre Royal Drury Lane Coliseum Southbank Centre (even though I hate the architecture)
National Theatre (ditto)
Wyndham's Her Majesty's
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Post by talkingheads on Jul 7, 2020 12:40:37 GMT
City Varieties Leeds The Cavern Club Liverpool Bradford Alhambra York Theatre Royal Bournemouth Pavillion
My list could go on and on, every theatre ideally should get some help.
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Post by nick on Jul 7, 2020 12:44:26 GMT
Nothing regional?
Royal Shakespeare Company Royal Exchange Manchester (I've been and love this one. I'm sure there are plenty more regional theatres of similar caliber)
In London - Little Angel Puppet Theatre
Royal Court theatre
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Post by talkingheads on Jul 7, 2020 12:58:59 GMT
The announcement of the £1.57 billion bailout stated that one of the priorities would be to keep open "crown jewel" venues such as the Royal Albert Hall. I've been musing on which venues I'd consider to be "crown jewels" that I'd prioritise saving if I was in charge of the bailout. So I thought I'd start a thread on it. These aren't necessarily venues that I myself am particularly keen on or visit very often (I've only seen 3 performances at the NT in my life) but ones that I consider it to be important that they should be preserved for the future. I've limited myself to 10 & they're in no particular order except that the ROH is definitely my top priority.
Royal Opera House Royal Albert Hall
The Globe Palladium Theatre Royal Drury Lane Coliseum Southbank Centre (even though I hate the architecture)
National Theatre (ditto)
Wyndham's Her Majesty's
By the 'Crown Jewels' do they just mean London? I love West End theatres but without regional there would be no talent to fill them!
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Post by Jon on Jul 7, 2020 13:00:45 GMT
I imagine pretty much all the West End would be protected since the majority of them are listed buildings as well as the big regional theatres like the Manchester Palace or the Mayflower
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jul 7, 2020 13:28:13 GMT
I'm not sure if I can decide as all are important.
An actor cuts their teeth at Dudley rep and then goes onto be a national treasure via the West End. Someone else sees the national treasure in the West End and is inspired to join Dudley am dram.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 7, 2020 13:30:19 GMT
Crucible Sheffield!
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Post by theatremadness on Jul 7, 2020 13:48:45 GMT
I thought this thread was going to be a discussion on something extremely different
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Post by xanady on Jul 7, 2020 13:51:38 GMT
Lol,theatre madness...so did I!
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Post by lynette on Jul 7, 2020 16:23:47 GMT
Gonna be some ‘discussion’ ( red faced ranting) about who gets what. It’s all our money don’t forget, well, borrowed in our name so to speak.
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Post by Dawnstar on Jul 7, 2020 18:15:51 GMT
The government announcement specified both "crown jewels" and regional theatres, so I assumed they were being considered separate categories & the "crown jewels" were, at least predominently, London venues. With the exception of the RSC, how many regional venues are nationally/internationally known & important in the same way the top London venues are? Most of them are predominently of importance to those living near them. So I thought it'd be more interesting to have this thread for discussing likely "crown jewels", as if we discuss regional venues then most people will probably just go for their own local theatres. Though I wouldn't, as my local theatre is of no particular architectural interest & is only a receiving house, which for me makes it fairly low priority as I'd choose to save venues on the grounds of their architectural merit & their production output.
If I were to pick regional venues then the Theatre Royal Bath, Wales Millenium Centre & Leeds Grand Theatre would be my first choices, all producing venues, followed by the Matcham theatres for their architectural merit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2020 18:32:45 GMT
If it isn’t regional theatres. I’d elevate any theatre that has significant community outreach, places like Lyric, Hammersmith, Battersea Arts Centre, Unicorn Theatre.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Jul 7, 2020 18:51:50 GMT
Assuming a third will go to Theatres and there are 1,100 Theatres in the UK (Theatres Trust) this would equate to £475,000 per Theatre. (⅓ Music / ⅓ Museums)
Number of Theatres might be less as Scotland and Wales are excluded so this looks particularly generous and there should be more than enough to trickle down to the base bagatelles and should hopefully support the practitioners as well as the buildings.
As ever it all comes down to how the money is allocated, how quick it can be in their bank accounts and how much debt each institution is prepared to take on.
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Post by Jon on Jul 7, 2020 19:06:17 GMT
Assuming a third will go to Theatres and there are 1,100 Theatres in the UK (Theatres Trust) this would equate to £475,000 per Theatre. (⅓ Music / ⅓ Museums) Number of Theatres might be less as Scotland and Wales are excluded so this looks particularly generous and there should be more than enough to trickle down to the base bagatelles and should hopefully support the practitioners as well as the buildings. As ever it all comes down to how the money is allocated and how quick it can be in their bank accounts and how much debt each institution is prepared to take on. I would assume the subsidised sector would get more money and grants whereas the commercial sector like ATG would get loans, it's a bit tricky as there are theatres which are not subsidised but operated by charities and some of those own big regional theatres like the Birmingham Hippodrome and the Mayflower.
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Post by sf on Jul 7, 2020 19:57:36 GMT
I'm most concerned, personally, about what I suppose we might call the second tier of regional producing theatres - places like the Oldham Coliseum and the Bolton Octagon and the New Victoria in Stoke which have a strong local following, which are responsible for introducing a LOT of kids from less privileged backgrounds to live performance, and which do a lot of very good outreach work within their communities, but which are in danger of being passed over when support is being dished out in favour of venues with higher national profiles. Those places, I suspect, are more vulnerable right now than somewhere like the Royal Exchange or the Globe, and it would be very sad indeed if they did not survive.
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Post by nick on Jul 8, 2020 10:10:01 GMT
The government announcement specified both "crown jewels" and regional theatres, so I assumed they were being considered separate categories... Ah that'll teach me not to read the report properly. Fair enough.
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Post by TallPaul on Jul 8, 2020 11:17:59 GMT
It's already been added to the list by my very good friend, but I think we can all agree that the world-famous Crucible Theatre is both in the regions and a crown jewel. Isn't that right, BurlyBeaR? In its statement from earlier this week. World Snooker described it as just 'famous', but I'm assuming that was to avoid too many worlds! 🙂
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