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Post by Dawnstar on Jun 24, 2021 13:23:10 GMT
Yesterday I had an email from the NHS saying my 2nd jab appointment had been cancelled. Cue a couple of hours of panic, as when I went online to try to re-book the centre wasn't even on the list, let alone any appointments. Then I had another email from the NHS saying that they're going to be doing walk-in clinics 24th June-4th July for AstraZeneca 2nd doses. So I went there this morning & got my 2nd dose. There was a long queue of young people waiting for Pfizer but not many waiting for AstraZeneca so I didn't have to queue for long. I still found it stressful though, as I've not seen that many people in person since last year! Now waiting to see if side effects kick in. I can't say I feel any safer, with the media reporting that AstraZeneca is less effective than Pfizer against the variants, but at least I've got it done.
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Post by dontdreamit on Jun 24, 2021 13:52:32 GMT
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jun 24, 2021 15:19:20 GMT
Yesterday I had an email from the NHS saying my 2nd jab appointment had been cancelled. Cue a couple of hours of panic, as when I went online to try to re-book the centre wasn't even on the list, let alone any appointments. Then I had another email from the NHS saying that they're going to be doing walk-in clinics 24th June-4th July for AstraZeneca 2nd doses. So I went there this morning & got my 2nd dose. There was a long queue of young people waiting for Pfizer but not many waiting for AstraZeneca so I didn't have to queue for long. I still found it stressful though, as I've not seen that many people in person since last year! Now waiting to see if side effects kick in. I can't say I feel any safer, with the media reporting that AstraZeneca is less effective than Pfizer against the variants, but at least I've got it done. Drink lots of water, stay hydrated
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Post by Dawnstar on Jun 24, 2021 20:22:02 GMT
Drink lots of water, stay hydrated I am. I do anyway, as I rarely drink anything other than water. Got a headache but not sure if it's due to the vaccine or stress.
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Post by The Matthew on Jun 25, 2021 5:54:26 GMT
I didn't have any side effects from the second dose apart from a sore arm, while the first dose had me off work for a day and a half.
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Post by jaqs on Jun 25, 2021 6:29:02 GMT
My second dose seemed to make me very tired. There was only 2 people in front of me at the excel Saturday morning, while hundreds queued at Olympic park for the drop in clinic. Seemed ridiculously unbalanced for two big sites so close together.
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Post by dontdreamit on Jun 25, 2021 6:59:23 GMT
My second dose seemed to make me very tired. There was only 2 people in front of me at the excel Saturday morning, while hundreds queued at Olympic park for the drop in clinic. Seemed ridiculously unbalanced for two big sites so close together. All of the Olympic Stadium jabs had to be pre-booked so I don’t get the queuing there!
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Post by viserys on Jun 25, 2021 7:40:14 GMT
I didn't have any side effects from the second dose apart from a sore arm, while the first dose had me off work for a day and a half. Other way round for me, first dose was fine. Had second dose Wednesday evening, first felt fine, then yesterday fatigue, headache and more hit me like a brick. Still feeling "off" this morning. But I keep telling myself it's a good sign that my body is swinging into action.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jun 25, 2021 7:54:03 GMT
I didn't have any side effects from the second dose apart from a sore arm, while the first dose had me off work for a day and a half. Other way round for me, first dose was fine. Had second dose Wednesday evening, first felt fine, then yesterday fatigue, headache and more hit me like a brick. Still feeling "off" this morning. But I keep telling myself it's a good sign that my body is swinging into action. No side affects from either jab. I don't know if it made the difference but from the night before I drank lots of water for forty eight hours. Got to be worth a try for all those still awaiting a jab
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Post by MrBraithwaite on Jun 25, 2021 9:32:02 GMT
So Sonia Friedman got into the same boat with them, good to know...
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Post by talkingheads on Jun 25, 2021 11:01:06 GMT
We really are beyond satire. Hancock's affair in a public office is a private matter apparently.
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Post by Dawnstar on Jun 25, 2021 11:33:20 GMT
I didn't have any side effects from the second dose apart from a sore arm, while the first dose had me off work for a day and a half. My second dose seemed to make me very tired. I seem to be in this group too. My arm is pretty sore & I'm feeling very tired but I haven't go the fluey aching all over that I had for the first dose. And admittedly the tiredness may also partly be because I've had a very stressful week.
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Post by southstreet on Jun 25, 2021 11:50:29 GMT
So far based on friends and family here, in Germany and in the States, the general consensus seems to be AZ worse side effects after first jab and Moderna/Pfizer, worse after the second jab.
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Post by talkingheads on Jun 25, 2021 12:16:36 GMT
Hancock must go, it's as simple as that. The Health Secretary cannot preach to the public about following guidelines after breaking them.
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Post by eulenspiegel on Jun 25, 2021 12:34:42 GMT
Hancock must go, it's as simple as that. The Health Secretary cannot preach to the public about following guidelines after breaking them. Why? He only represents your bigot society...https://www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/united-kingdom/
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Post by eulenspiegel on Jun 25, 2021 12:34:56 GMT
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Post by eulenspiegel on Jun 25, 2021 12:38:58 GMT
You chose your butcher and would still vote for your butcher.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jun 25, 2021 13:43:48 GMT
Hancock must go, it's as simple as that. The Health Secretary cannot preach to the public about following guidelines after breaking them. Why? He only represents your bigot society...https://www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/united-kingdom/ Eh?
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Post by eulenspiegel on Jun 25, 2021 14:17:03 GMT
Why? He only represents your bigot society...https://www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/united-kingdom/ Eh? For many years even decades the majority in the UK elects these bigot representatives... always only appearance than substance...so live with it or start to go fo a change. Your whole education/university system is only supporting the rich snobs..Hancock studied in Oxford and Cambridge...after this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King%27s_School,_Chester maybe something very foul in this system... Hancock is only a representative of this corrupt system.
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Post by The Matthew on Jun 25, 2021 15:23:14 GMT
Did it really require six separate posts to tell us that the government that most people in this thread have been criticising deserves criticism?
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Post by eulenspiegel on Jun 25, 2021 15:47:06 GMT
Did it really require six separate posts to tell us that the government that most people in this thread have been criticising deserves criticism? No - but the forum software also had some problems this afternoon - at least from Germany with a mobile/tablet. Btw. if all of you criticize it - why most of you vote for it - e.g. the most stupid person realized from the start that all the Brexit supporters were idiots - all these Camerons, Mays,Johnson would not even get a job as cleaners in an intelligent country.
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Post by zahidf on Jun 25, 2021 16:27:05 GMT
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Post by The Matthew on Jun 25, 2021 16:34:33 GMT
Btw. if all of you criticize it - why most of you vote for it - e.g. the most stupid person realized from the start that all the Brexit supporters were idiots - all these Camerons, Mays,Johnson would not even get a job as cleaners in an intelligent country. I don't know why they vote for this government; it's not a party I've ever voted for. Each election I look at the various leaflets that come through the door but the Conservatives have always stood for things I can never support.
But generally speaking there does seem to be a strong feeling of "I'm a Party" about voting, and people will vote for "their" party no matter what policies that party has and no matter how that party behaves. It's particularly noticeable in America, where I've seen many life-long Republicans complain about the evils of the Democrats and sing the praises of the Republicans, but if you actually look at what they say they love and hate as far as policies are concerned the policies they want are the Democrat policies and the policies they rail against are Republican ones. But they're Republicans, so they'll continue to vote Republican and support the Republicans and complain about the cost of healthcare and the lack of protection for workers all the way. And it happens in Britain too. That makes it incredibly difficult for the situation to change, because perhaps 90% of the electorate already has the next few elections planned out.
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Post by poster J on Jun 25, 2021 17:20:59 GMT
For many years even decades the majority in the UK elects these bigot representatives... always only appearance than substance...so live with it or start to go fo a change. Your whole education/university system is only supporting the rich snobs..Hancock studied in Oxford and Cambridge...after this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King%27s_School,_Chester maybe something very foul in this system... Hancock is only a representative of this corrupt system. Speaking from experience, it isn't just rich people who go to elite universities. Some of us get there through hard work and natural ability. So maybe grow up and do some research rather than making sweeping criticisms and insults against every single UK resident that don't actually apply to most sane people, of which there are many. Your posts are not constructive at all.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Jun 25, 2021 17:35:24 GMT
Believe â…” of the Cabinet are from Private schools. Cabinet ministers now nine times more likely to be privately educated than rest of population.
Would welcome more from a comprehensive background who got into an elite university through hard work and natural ability in Government as they would understand the value of an education and have more experience of ‘normal’ life.
Eton and most private schools are the preserve of the rich and are overly represented in ministerial positions.
Whether private education and bigotry are natural bedfellows is not something I can comment on but would like some more diversity.
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Post by talkingheads on Jun 25, 2021 18:10:23 GMT
If Hancock isn't gone in a few days, I think there will be riots. How many people didn't see loved ones on his Government's say so? Didn't hug their family? Didn't see their partners all through the pandemic?
Hypocrisy is too small a word. Criminal.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jun 25, 2021 18:11:39 GMT
For many years even decades the majority in the UK elects these bigot representatives... always only appearance than substance...so live with it or start to go fo a change. Your whole education/university system is only supporting the rich snobs..Hancock studied in Oxford and Cambridge...after this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King%27s_School,_Chester maybe something very foul in this system... Hancock is only a representative of this corrupt system. Oh I get what you mean now. Agreed. What do they need to do not to get your vote?
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Post by olliebean on Jun 25, 2021 18:27:35 GMT
Did it really require six separate posts to tell us that the government that most people in this thread have been criticising deserves criticism? No - but the forum software also had some problems this afternoon - at least from Germany with a mobile/tablet. Btw. if all of you criticize it - why most of you vote for it - e.g. the most stupid person realized from the start that all the Brexit supporters were idiots - all these Camerons, Mays,Johnson would not even get a job as cleaners in an intelligent country. Most of us didn't vote for this government, but our electoral system means we got it anyway.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jun 25, 2021 21:06:33 GMT
They say to get into Oxbridge you need to either be very bright and go to a state school or go to a public school.
A big selling point for the private school system is that they get their pupils into Oxbridge, that is why they give scholarships to the brightest pupils, as they hope they will then go on to Oxbridge and this in turn reflects well on the school. Obviously there are very bright people that go to independent or public schools, a good example of this and I didn’t like the bloke, but there is no getting away from it that David Cameron (Elton) was very bright, I wouldn’t say the same about his chancellor George Osbourne (St Pauls) who for me defines a Hooray Henry and I wouldn’t say that Boris Johnson (Eton) is particularly bright, but I would concede that Dominic Cummings (Durham School) is certainly a schemer but not stupid.
I was speaking to my cousin about this and my cousin said “that you shouldn’t go to Oxbridge after flying through GCSE’s to top grades, then doing A levels to A/A+ grade and then come out of Oxbridge with a second class degree. It was reported this week that poor pupils are at a big disadvantage educationally. Sadly the people who get into Oxbridge because of their privileged education get a massive bunch of keys, what we might also know as the establishment, who go on to run our lives. How many theatre critics went to state school?
A couple of years ago Eton got caught cheating, when they leaked exam answers and their director of academia was forced to resign. I suggest this isn’t a isolated incident. That should have been a wake up call to get more pupils from the state system into Oxbridge, especially from the BAME community.
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Post by poster J on Jun 25, 2021 21:57:52 GMT
They say to get into Oxbridge you need to either be very bright and go to a state school or go to a public school. Perhaps that is what you need to do in order to be encouraged to apply and write a good enough personal statement to get you shortlisted (though access work is getting better - the "wake up call" you seem to think hasn't happened actually happened a while ago) but no school can get you through the interviews that you have to pass for every course, and in most cases written tests as well. You are on your own for those, and there are elements of the interviews that you cannot revise or prepare for. Some of those didn't exist 20 or 30 years ago when most of our politicians went to Oxbridge, but in my experience it isn't the stereotype many people who didn't go there think it is, at least not anymore or not the whole of either Oxford or Cambridge (I know people of widely varying backgrounds who went to both). And I don't understand your comment about you shouldn't do well in GCSEs and A-Levels then go to Oxbridge and come out with a second class degree. That's exactly what I did (from a state school background, like many people I know who did better than me on my course) and it hasn't done me any harm, in fact it was the making of me in many, many ways. A 2.1 is an entirely respectable degree and the threshold for most graduate jobs! I'm not saying all our politicians are bright, they're clearly not, or not anymore. But perpetuating stereotypes of Oxbridge that might not even have been true 20 years ago, let alone now, really isn't helpful.
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