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Post by ali973 on Jul 14, 2017 17:35:19 GMT
If we're talking about the same video- it's filmed on the first preview on Broadway. The pre-recorded version came later in the run when she had serious difficulty pulling it off.
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Post by chernjam on Jul 15, 2017 3:51:17 GMT
ali - I can tell you the 4 times I saw this live in NY there was absolutely no pre-recorded versions... Honestly I don't know who was peddling that, but there's plenty of stories of how Glenn's voice cracked or she re-did hitting a high note when she cracked singing As If We Never Said Goodbye.
I'm hoping that if they do remount this in Australia and film it that they would auto-tune-correct or whatever it is they call it to clean up the vocals.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 9:15:11 GMT
ali - I can tell you the 4 times I saw this live in NY there was absolutely no pre-recorded versions... Honestly I don't know who was peddling that, but there's plenty of stories of how Glenn's voice cracked or she re-did hitting a high note when she cracked singing As If We Never Said Goodbye. I'm hoping that if they do remount this in Australia and film it that they would auto-tune-correct or whatever it is they call it to clean up the vocals. That would be one sure way to destroy it, auto-tuning it. They just about got away with it on the Arena Jesus Christ Superstar but it too was heavily processed and for me distracting. To be fair, I kind of like it when her voice cracks or fails, it could be interpreted as a reflection of the cracking of Norma, how on the edge she it. I think if Norma was real and singing that song in that situation she would be so overridden with emotion that her voice would break. Edit: Oh and the process of debunking rumours etc, they will not be filming Sunset in Australia. |
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Post by theatremadness on Jul 15, 2017 10:02:44 GMT
ali - I can tell you the 4 times I saw this live in NY there was absolutely no pre-recorded versions... Honestly I don't know who was peddling that, but there's plenty of stories of how Glenn's voice cracked or she re-did hitting a high note when she cracked singing As If We Never Said Goodbye. I'm hoping that if they do remount this in Australia and film it that they would auto-tune-correct or whatever it is they call it to clean up the vocals. To be fair, I kind of like it when her voice cracks or fails, it could be interpreted as a reflection of the cracking of Norma, how on the edge she it. I think if Norma was real and singing that song in that situation she would be so overridden with emotion that her voice would break. I like that way of thinking, but all in my personal opinion, I don't 100% buy it, and I doubt most of the audience would, too. You might be able to disguise cracking in a song as a character choice if A) Ms Close was doing it on purpose (and even though we've never sat down and had a chat about it, I'm almost certain she wasn't) or B) if what she was singing was diegetic to the musical. For example, when Sally Bowles sings Maybe This Time or Mein Herr etc in Cabaret, the character isn't breaking out into song, the song is part of the actual story, it's taking place in the Club and originates from inside the world of the story. So you could argue the actor really is singing as if Sally Bowles was singing, whatever their choices may be. But, there are no no such songs in Sunset Boulevard where Norma sings "as Norma" - although I do recognise that that you did say "if Norma was real and singing...etc"! They're all non-diegetic, coming from outside of the world of the story that are not implied to actually be a part of the action, but, as we all know, a heightened sense of reality and feeling where speaking the words is not enough to convey the emotion of what is being said, so they need to be sung, and they should be sung with no blemishes, wherever possible, for full effect! This is where I though Ms Close was amazing - her acting was sensational and really brought that sense of heightened emotion, but when you hear a crack, as she did when I saw it in London 4 days before she took some time off, you momentarily crash-land out of that emotion, as it has been broken. But then after a couple of seconds, you smile as you remember everyone is human, and you carry on enjoying every moment. I know it's a discussion that has reared its ugly head a billion times and I've probably contradicted myself the same amount, but I've nothing better to do on a Saturday morning so leave me alone!  |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 15, 2017 10:40:50 GMT
I agree ^^
Glenn's voice already has a thin, frail quality which is probably why she isn't universally popular in the role, but either way it's quite enough to portray Norma's vulnerability. No cracking required! And there was none on the two occasions I saw it. The second time Max cracked on his final note in Greatest Star and it does totally jar and take you out of the moment, for a moment.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 15, 2017 10:43:25 GMT
I'm also reminded of seeing Liza in concert, probably her last tour, when there was a real tension on some of the songs as to whether she'd hit the money note. Edge of the seat stuff, me and my pal were almost clutching eachother. But because she was herself, and not acting, it just brought an added thrill and dimension to it all. And she DID get every note. And she was, and is, fabulous.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 14:50:07 GMT
Had this back from the framers today.
I love it!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 21, 2017 20:43:31 GMT
Had this back from the framers today. I love it! Do you mind me asking what that cost @trekkiemonster I've got some artwork that I'd love to frame but the two places I've been in for quotes (high street) have been silly money. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 19:37:23 GMT
Do you mind me asking what that cost @trekkiemonster I've got some artwork that I'd love to frame but the two places I've been in for quotes (high street) have been silly money. Hi BurlyBeaRI paid £40 to have it framed. Normally I pay £25 for a normal size theatre poster but this one was bigger. |
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Post by danb on Jul 26, 2017 21:30:32 GMT
Is Lonny Price director of Sunset, the same Lonny Price that playsNeil Kellerman in 'Dirty Dancing'?
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Post by danb on Jul 26, 2017 22:19:27 GMT
Apparently so...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 21:25:49 GMT
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Post by d'James on Aug 17, 2017 21:53:09 GMT
I loved it and her in it but it was not sold out in London. Either way, I really hope it's true and she's Norma.
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Post by anthony40 on Aug 17, 2017 22:05:26 GMT
I loved it and her in it but it was not sold out in London. (Maybe) Because of ticket prices? Either way, I really hope it's true and she's Norma. I do too |
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Post by d'James on Aug 17, 2017 22:07:29 GMT
I'm sure ticket prices had something to do with it. Then again, up in the Balcony where I was, it wasn't full and the seats were very affordable.
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Post by Jon on Aug 17, 2017 22:46:11 GMT
ALW and Glenn Close have wanted to do a film version for almost 20 years but Paramount were never interested. I'll be curious who they cast for Joe and Betty
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Post by Jon on Aug 18, 2017 15:49:46 GMT
ALW and Glenn Close have wanted to do a film version for almost 20 years but Paramount were never interested. I'll be curious who they cast for Joe and Betty At this point they’d be fools not to want to do it. I understand wanting to protect the original movie, but there’s serious money to be made from allowing ALW to do a movie version. Perhaps they saw Evita, then POTO and decided ALW doesn’t translate well to the big screen? However Glenn Close is so amazing in it (and perhaps more respected now?) that casting her would surely sell a enough tickets to make more than a few million. Plus the movie musical isn’t as obscure a genre as it was back in the 90s. Anyway, Glenn better win the Oscar for it. Long overdue. I imagine the success that La La Land and Beauty and the Beast has had has made Paramount reconsider how Sunset Boulevard could do. It doesn't need a huge budget, maybe $40-65m and it would be profitable if it made $150-200m WW |
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Post by couldileaveyou on Aug 18, 2017 15:56:05 GMT
They need a star for Joe, because Glenn Close alone won't sell all around the world
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Post by Jon on Aug 18, 2017 16:01:43 GMT
They need a star for Joe, because Glenn Close alone won't sell all around the world If they get one for Betty, it'd be a bonus. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 18, 2017 16:06:15 GMT
They need a star for Joe, because Glenn Close alone won't sell all around the world Jake Gyllenhaal. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 18, 2017 16:07:23 GMT
They need a star for Joe, because Glenn Close alone won't sell all around the world If they get one for Betty, it'd be a bonus. Amanda Seyfried. |
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Post by theatremadness on Aug 18, 2017 16:10:00 GMT
Anyone else wanna see Meryl Streep have a crack at Norma??
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 18, 2017 16:12:01 GMT
over my dead body!
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Post by theatremadness on Aug 18, 2017 16:16:11 GMT
Her daughter Mamie could play Young Norma in flashback scenes!!!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 18, 2017 16:17:45 GMT
Pointing her toes in a pair of ballet pumps?
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